2022 NBA Draft - Prospects Discussion

[skbucks1985]

Its strange that they mentioned all of those "older" guys that can contribute immediately and Wendell Moore name isn't one of them.

The older guys Giovanny mentioned (Andrew Nembhard, Jake LaRavia, Christian Braun and Ismael Kamagate) are mostly mocked in the 2nd round. I get the feeling that coud be one scenario that plays out (we gain a 2nd rounder).

Moore is gone at 23 in Givony's mock, so that would explain the exclusion. But if he's available at 24 and the Bucks are still picking at that spot, I think there's probably a good chance he's who they take.

[CharityStripe34]

Praying for Liddell or Eason, but Mark Williams might actually be an intriguing option if we're indeed looking to move up. Called it a few weeks back, but Charlotte having picks 13 and 15 makes them ideal trade partners. I challenge anyone to watch Duke highlights and not come away enamored by the thought of a legit 7-foot version of BAM! next to Giannis for the next half decade.

Could the Bucks get away with a super-ultra awesome defensive frontcourt? I mean Golden State had lineups with Looney and Draymond playing together decent minutes.

Then again I'm not familiar with NCAA so not sure how Williams fits. I am sold on your love for Eason, though, that kid looks really good and EXACTLY what Milwaukee needs.

[Prez]

Don’t get my hopes up with this Mark Williams stuff lol. That would be so cool.

[M-C-G]

I don't think Nembhard would be my top pick, but our roster could sure use a guy that does the things he can do. My 2 minutes of due dillegence, reminds me a bit of a bigger Monte Morris.

[machu46]

I personally don’t think there’s all that much of a difference between Williams and Kessler in terms of the quality of the prospect. I don’t want to trade up for either of them.

But I know with the discourse here a trade up for Kessler would be amazing.


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[emunney]

I don't think Nembhard would be my top pick, but our roster could sure use a guy that does the things he can do. My 2 minutes of due dillegence, reminds me a bit of a bigger Monte Morris.

I tend to fixate on what guys can't do, particularly older guys, so it's worth reminding myself that Nembhard is a very practiced and effective pick and roll ball handler and one of the better passers in the draft, and you also can't go under screens on him, and yes we really could use all of that if you think the particulars of how he does it translate from the WCC to the NBA.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I went to college with jake laravias mom and dad. facebook friends. pretty cool

[BuildingBucks]

I dislike every player the Bucks are linked to so seems pretty on brand for a Bucks draft. I can't remember the last draft/pick I was actually happy with. I guess maybe the Thon and Brogdon draft? I was intrigued by the Thon pick, respected the attempt at going for an unknown prospect and I loved the Brogdon pick. Before that I guess Jabari?

It's typically either meh picks or awful from the Bucks in recent years.

[BuildingBucks]

I seen a few negative posts regarding this player in here so I don't think this will be received well but if Jaden Hardy falls to 24 I would love it if the Bucks took him

*ducks*

[machu46]

I seen a few negative posts regarding this player in here so I don't think this will be received well but if Jaden Hardy falls to 24 I would love it if the Bucks took him

*ducks*

I'd understand but he's this year's Cam Reddish to me where I get why teams would like him but I would much rather let someone else be the team to take him. Just feels like the likelihood that you're lighting the pick on fire is way too high with him.

[CharityStripe34]

I dislike every player the Bucks are linked to so seems pretty on brand for a Bucks draft. I can't remember the last draft/pick I was actually happy with. I guess maybe the Thon and Brogdon draft? I was intrigued by the Thon pick, respected the attempt at going for an unknown prospect and I loved the Brogdon pick. Before that I guess Jabari?

It's typically either meh picks or awful from the Bucks in recent years.

Percentages show that they are due for a diamond-in-the-rough (hoping Eason).

[M-C-G]

I dislike every player the Bucks are linked to so seems pretty on brand for a Bucks draft. I can't remember the last draft/pick I was actually happy with. I guess maybe the Thon and Brogdon draft? I was intrigued by the Thon pick, respected the attempt at going for an unknown prospect and I loved the Brogdon pick. Before that I guess Jabari?

It's typically either meh picks or awful from the Bucks in recent years.

Percentages show that they are due for a diamond-in-the-rough (hoping Eason).

You have to pay to play. It seems to me we drafted DJ Wilson right when Horst got the job and then I think Donte the following year. Has Horst even made a first round selection other than those two? You could even make the argument DJ wasn't really his choice.

[BuildingBucks]

I dislike every player the Bucks are linked to so seems pretty on brand for a Bucks draft. I can't remember the last draft/pick I was actually happy with. I guess maybe the Thon and Brogdon draft? I was intrigued by the Thon pick, respected the attempt at going for an unknown prospect and I loved the Brogdon pick. Before that I guess Jabari?

It's typically either meh picks or awful from the Bucks in recent years.

Percentages show that they are due for a diamond-in-the-rough (hoping Eason).

Yeah I'm good with Eason as well. Even if his offensive game doesn't develop much he's going to come into the NBA a plus defender without a doubt. Plus a transition threat.

[CharityStripe34]

I dislike every player the Bucks are linked to so seems pretty on brand for a Bucks draft. I can't remember the last draft/pick I was actually happy with. I guess maybe the Thon and Brogdon draft? I was intrigued by the Thon pick, respected the attempt at going for an unknown prospect and I loved the Brogdon pick. Before that I guess Jabari?

It's typically either meh picks or awful from the Bucks in recent years.

Percentages show that they are due for a diamond-in-the-rough (hoping Eason).

Yeah I'm good with Eason as well. Even if his offensive game doesn't develop much he's going to come into the NBA a plus defender without a doubt. Plus a transition threat.

Gianni, Khris and Jrue would love playing with him.

[BuildingBucks]

I seen a few negative posts regarding this player in here so I don't think this will be received well but if Jaden Hardy falls to 24 I would love it if the Bucks took him

*ducks*

I'd understand but he's this year's Cam Reddish to me where I get why teams would like him but I would much rather let someone else be the team to take him. Just feels like the likelihood that you're lighting the pick on fire is way too high with him.

He had a rough start to the G League but his ability to create is on a different level than anyone that might be available at 24. As far as getting his own shot there aren't many better in the draft. Bucks have too many stand around and wait for Giannis to pass them the ball guys. There are a few much safer options I would be happy with but none have the upside of Hardy.

His last 8 games in the G League:

22.5 PTS | 4.9 REB | 4.1 AST

1.8 STL | 2.9 TOV | 30.8 USG% | 54.9 TS%

42.2 FG% | 37.7 3P% | 85.7 FT%

[machu46]

I seen a few negative posts regarding this player in here so I don't think this will be received well but if Jaden Hardy falls to 24 I would love it if the Bucks took him

*ducks*

I'd understand but he's this year's Cam Reddish to me where I get why teams would like him but I would much rather let someone else be the team to take him. Just feels like the likelihood that you're lighting the pick on fire is way too high with him.

He had a rough start to the G League but his ability to create is on a different level than anyone that might be available at 24. As far as getting his own shot there aren't many better in the draft. Bucks have too many stand around and wait for Giannis to pass them the ball guys. There are a few much safer options I would be happy with but none have the upside of Hardy.

His last 8 games in the G League:

22.5 PTS | 4.9 REB | 4.1 AST

1.8 STL | 2.9 TOV | 30.8 USG% | 54.9 TS%

42.2 FG% | 37.7 3P% | 85.7 FT%

I think he's certainly more comfortable and more adept taking bad shots than most in this class. I don't really think he's athletic/skilled enough to create good shots against NBA competition and certainly don't want him running the team as a lead ball-handler.

If he gets good enough at hitting the tough shots, there's certainly a valuable role for him, but it's not really something I want to bet on personally.

Edit: Wow, I said certainly a lot. Keeping it.

[BuildingBucks]

I'd understand but he's this year's Cam Reddish to me where I get why teams would like him but I would much rather let someone else be the team to take him. Just feels like the likelihood that you're lighting the pick on fire is way too high with him.

He had a rough start to the G League but his ability to create is on a different level than anyone that might be available at 24. As far as getting his own shot there aren't many better in the draft. Bucks have too many stand around and wait for Giannis to pass them the ball guys. There are a few much safer options I would be happy with but none have the upside of Hardy.

His last 8 games in the G League:

22.5 PTS | 4.9 REB | 4.1 AST

1.8 STL | 2.9 TOV | 30.8 USG% | 54.9 TS%

42.2 FG% | 37.7 3P% | 85.7 FT%

I think he's certainly more comfortable and more adept taking bad shots than most in this class. I don't really think he's athletic/skilled enough to create good shots against NBA competition and certainly don't want him running the team as a lead ball-handler.

If he gets good enough at hitting the tough shots, there's certainly a valuable role for him, but it's not really something I want to bet on personally.

I can respect that take

[Badgerlander]

By all means trade up but for a Wing not a Center

[Ron Swanson]

Alec Burks was my comp for Hardy and I definitely see the talent appeal. But I'm not usually a fan of guys who "play small" and I think that describes Hardy perfectly. Loves taking difficult shots (long 3's, pull-up 2's), shoots well from the line but doesn't attack frequently enough, terrible AST/TO ratio. Idk, it just seems like he needs to fix a lot both skill-wise and mentally in order for me to see him in a role that makes sense on this team.

[machu46]

For those with access, Sam Vecenie of The Athletic published his 130 page draft guide: https://theathletic.com/3374595/2022/06/21/nba-draft-guide-2022-top-100/

If we're allowed, I'm willing to copy and paste long excerpts from it, but it's a lot of content and I feel bad so I'd prefer not to lol. Anyways, his draft tiers (players listed in order within the tiers):

Tier 1: Nobody

Tier 2:
1. Chet
2. Jabari
3. Paolo
4. Ivey

Tier 3:
5. Mathurin
6. Sochan
7. Daniels
8. Keegan Murray
9. Sharpe

Tier 4:
10. Johnny Davis
11. Griffin
12. Duren
13. Eason
14. TyTy
15. Mark Williams
16. Dieng
17. Terry
18. Jalen Williams
19. Agbaji
20. Hardy
21. Branham

Tier 5:
22. LaRavia
23. Braun
24. Liddell
25. Wesley
26. McGowens
27. Christie
28. Beauchamp
29. Kamagate
30. Kessler
31. Wendell Moore
32. Procida
33. Rollins
34. Jovic
35. Kendall Brown
36. Chandler
37. Keels
38. Spagnolo
39. Watson
40. Nembhard
41. Isaiah Mobley
42. Minott
43. Baldwin
44. Justin Lewis
45. Barlow
46. Houstan
47. Jaylin Williams
48. Koloko
49. Jabari Walker

For my own sake, I'm not going to bother with the remaining 51 prospects but if you're curious about a particular guy's ranking, feel free to ask.