Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Moose Returns

[emunney]

PJ Washington is a tripper and should be EXPELLED from the PLANET

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[Ruzious]

I've been on the trading for Jalen Smith bandwagon for awhile now. Would love to see him in a Bucks uniform.

I agree with you, but here's what I'd do - wait till the offseason to sign Stix - I'm not sure he's ready for the playoffs yet, but another season of experience should get him there. He shouldn't cost too much. What I'd do now is trade BroLo for Covington - who can help us the same way Tucker did last playoffs - and I think he's better. I like a healthy BroLo, but we really can't depend on him being healthy. And I don't want to pay him 13.9 mil next season. Also, his lack of pnr defense is tough to use in the playoffs. Covington's made 50% of his 3's in the playoffs the last 2 post-seasons. And he creates turnovers - with steals, deflections, and blocks. Lopez gives Portland a center next season to share the job with Nurkic - which should make Lillard happy.

[emunney]

Kind of hoping for some major out of the blue move with the Spurs.

[emunney]

"It is better to be a [RealGM] dissatisfied than a [real GM] satisfied." - John Stuart Mill

[soxperry]

I have a feeling the Don't trade is going to be useful but disappointing on our end.

[Ell Curry]

TOR isn't buying him out, they'll let him pout at home and expire. If they deal him and he gets bought out, he's going back to Miami.

Raps fan here.

1. Curious how you guys see DiVincenzo, because Boucher for DeVincenzo makes some sense for us if he's the guy he was before his injury and recent struggles. It makes us worse this year considering Boucher has been a 12-7 guy in 25 minutes a game the last 25 games or so, but we're a win one round at the most team this year anyways, and DeVincenzo might be cheap to resign and in theory he's the kind of big ballhandling guard who makes sense for us since we're going all in on all wings all the time and flying around on defence basically.

2. I could see us buying out Dragic because we're only 270K under the luxury tax and if Dragic gives us back a million or two to get his freedom and get it back elsewhere (like Miami) if there's a buyout guard who fits like Gary Harris (he might ringchase but also might want playing time to earn a decent MLE deal next year, though I guess the Lakers, Cavs or a return to Denver are better options in all respects maybe. The other reason would be to clear 1M or so under the cap if we make a deal like Dragic and a 2nd rounder for Gary Harris or another where we take on more than 270K in salary and need to shed some to not pay the tax.

Donte would be a terrific fit for the Raptors, I think him replacing Flynn makes them instantly better.

However, a straight up Donte for Boucher isn't legal for us as a tax team. If we add any other player to the deal, it's legal, and we can even take a minimum salary back.

Is Boucher the right guy for us? He rebounds and rim protects, but I see him as a center only. Is he agile enough to defend a good forward?

He's agile. His problem is his lack of bulk guarding centers. He can't be used on Embiid at all for example I wouldn't think, and if you guys don't have Lopez you might want the DeVincenzo trade return to involve a guy who can save Giannis from having to do that for 35 minutes a night. I assume Portis can't either?

Not a great rim protector, bit more of a weakside block guy than a sit and defend the rim type. We've defended better (3 points) with him on the court this year. EPM and Darko have him as better on that end that Portis for example. But our scheme suits him because it's about covering ground and length and being aggressive, so I could see him being a guy who defends well in one playoff matchup for you but less so in another.

Nwora would be intriguing for us too, as he can shoot and he's 6'8 and seemed like a better zone defender than man defender at Lousiville and while we don't run zone, we're closer to running it than most NBA teams.

From our minimum guys, I think Yuta is probably the best fit if you send out Nwora because he's smart and a cheap, solid low usage guy who shoot the 3 passably and plays his ass off and you guys are a little short on big wings if you trade Nwora. I think he's more likely to be a helpful 10-15 minute guy if someone gets hurt than Svi Mikhailuk or another.

[Xanadu]

If Goran gets bought out, he probably heads to Dallas, but if he had any interest in joining us, I'd take him over Hill in a heartbeat.

TOR isn't buying him out, they'll let him pout at home and expire. If they deal him and he gets bought out, he's going back to Miami.

Raps fan here.

1. Curious how you guys see DiVincenzo, because Boucher for DeVincenzo makes some sense for us if he's the guy he was before his injury and recent struggles. It makes us worse this year considering Boucher has been a 12-7 guy in 25 minutes a game the last 25 games or so, but we're a win one round at the most team this year anyways, and DeVincenzo might be cheap to resign and in theory he's the kind of big ballhandling guard who makes sense for us since we're going all in on all wings all the time and flying around on defence basically.

2. I could see us buying out Dragic because we're only 270K under the luxury tax and if Dragic gives us back a million or two to get his freedom and get it back elsewhere (like Miami) if there's a buyout guard who fits like Gary Harris (he might ringchase but also might want playing time to earn a decent MLE deal next year, though I guess the Lakers, Cavs or a return to Denver are better options in all respects maybe. The other reason would be to clear 1M or so under the cap if we make a deal like Dragic and a 2nd rounder for Gary Harris or another where we take on more than 270K in salary and need to shed some to not pay the tax.

Boucher really is a no go from me. He is just not a great fit. He is too undersized and lacks the strength a center needs. Fall in love with his jump shot too much. Also heard that despite being a **** blocker he is actually a poor rim defender and isn't very good at switching. I absolutely loved him out of college though.

[Xanadu]

No takers on a Mo Bamba for DDV trade? Think we send DDV and semi straight up for Bamba.

[raferfenix]

No takers on a Mo Bamba for DDV trade? Think we send DDV and semi straight up for Bamba.

Not if Brook is coming back before the playoffs.

[Xanadu]

No takers on a Mo Bamba for DDV trade? Think we send DDV and semi straight up for Bamba.

Not if Brook is coming back before the playoffs.

Well even if he is Bamba gives us insurance in case he suffers a setback or rust. Feel like with Pat Allen and Wes our guard depth is good. Even with Brook back though I think another bench big is valuable especially one with plus size.

[jakecronus8]

No takers on a Mo Bamba for DDV trade? Think we send DDV and semi straight up for Bamba.

Not if Brook is coming back before the playoffs.

I’d make that deal either way. They need to find someone to play center long term. I think it’s a high probability that Lopez is never more than a spot guy from this point on and certainly not someone they can rely on.

Bamba still has solid potential to break out in a new environment. He’s essentially the most freakish big man athlete ever tested at the combine. Orlando has been hellish. I want to see him playing next to Giannis. By most accounts it appears to be motor related with Bamba at this point. Easy to see why in Orlando.

I honestly think Orlando likely doesn’t touch a Donte deal given how awful he’s looked and could probably still net a late first for Bamba.

[Xanadu]

Plus unlike Jalen Smith with Bamba we get bird rights. Meaning if he shows out with us we can retain him.

[raferfenix]

Well even if he is Bamba gives us insurance in case he suffers a setback or rush. Feel like with Pat Allen and Wes out depth is good. Even with Brook back though I think another bench is valuable especially one with plus size.

Definitely agree we need another big man.

If Brook is actually coming back though then whoever we acquire would be a third string center, which doesn’t seem as valuable as Donte.

Could see us doing something like trading Semi + Hood for Robin to team the twins back up, for better or worse.

However if Suki is leery about BroLo’s back behind the scenes then yeah we need to solve that problem yesterday.

[paulpressey25]

Hollinger was talking on his pod the other day about Donte still being able to get $12 million a year next season, despite the injuries. And there was some belief he'd have some trade value at the deadline.

I'm not as optimistic as Hollinger.

[Baddy Chuck]

Hollinger was talking on his pod the other day about Donte still being able to get $12 million a year next season, despite the injuries. And there was some belief he'd have some trade value at the deadline.

I'm not as optimistic as Hollinger.

Josh Hart played 47 games last year, didn't play particularly good and still got 3/38 (first year guaranteed). Granted the more I watch the operating of the team I don't even think we'll be involved in the Donte bidding if he's even on the roster in the offseason.

[emunney]

Hollinger was talking on his pod the other day about Donte still being able to get $12 million a year next season, despite the injuries. And there was some belief he'd have some trade value at the deadline.

I'm not as optimistic as Hollinger.

Josh Hart played 47 games last year, didn't play particularly good and still got 3/38 (first year guaranteed). Granted the more I watch the operating of the team I don't even think we'll be involved in the Donte bidding if he's even on the roster in the offseason.

I think he walks outright, and I'll make the additional prediction that we don't offer the QO and let him go UFA.

[emunney]

If we don't trade him, which we probably will.

[emunney]

Here's the trade:

Pat, Donte, Nwora

for

Nance, Snell, Strategic Decision to Open A Roster Spot

[tydett]

Hollinger was talking on his pod the other day about Donte still being able to get $12 million a year next season, despite the injuries. And there was some belief he'd have some trade value at the deadline.

I'm not as optimistic as Hollinger.

Josh Hart played 47 games last year, didn't play particularly good and still got 3/38 (first year guaranteed). Granted the more I watch the operating of the team I don't even think we'll be involved in the Donte bidding if he's even on the roster in the offseason.

I think he walks outright, and I'll make the additional prediction that we don't offer the QO and let him go UFA.

Think the writing may have been on the wall last year when he was included in the Bogdan trade that we viewed him more for his potential value as an asset than his basketball acumen. It's a shame, because there's a nice player in there, but injuries have just derailed this team's ability to pull that out of him.

That being said, I think he's going to get a really affordable contract in this next offseason and he could probably outplay it, leaving everybody to be asking "Why did the Bucks let DDV go when he was capable of this?" much like our resident former Virginia Cavalier that nobody talks about anymore.

[paulpressey25]

Donte does a lot of little things on the court that make the team go. That said, through 11 games back, he's shooting 28% from the field and 28% from 3 on volume.

Absolutely realize he's got to work himself into shape. That said, he's got to get that shooting going to be viable for either us or another team in trade.