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[Bucksmaniac]

Adding to that, overall if we lose in the playoffs again it's not going to be because of Brook or any other role player. In order IMO

Reasons if we end up losing b4 the finals:
1. Perimeter D
2. Giannis trying to be prime Westbrook or Harden and getting hurt
3. Khris trying to be Kobe and getting hurt
4. Bench overall not being able to hit 3s with hard closeouts

So in conclusion: if we're adding people make sure they are 3 and D quick trigger wings. Our front court is good enough.

Dame’s offense disappointing is a possible reason too. If he shoots 40% for example that probably won’t be good enough.

[Fotis St]

AJ Green is better than Donte lol.
Don't get why DDV is even mentioned here.

All of you are posting reasonable arguments about Brook's overall impact ... I just don't want to see Boston or the Heat attack Brook and Khris in turns over and over again... it is so painful to watch us collapse for not adjusting roster or lineups.

Brook and Khris should not play together in almost any lineup... Benching Brook and starting Bobby was the solution Bud refused to apply for the last 2 years.

[tedbrogen]

AJ Green is better than Donte lol.
Don't get why DDV is even mentioned here.

All of you are posting reasonable arguments about Brook's overall impact ... I just don't want to see Boston or the Heat attack Brook and Khris in turns over and over again... it is so painful to watch us collapse for not adjusting roster or lineups.

Brook and Khris should not play together in almost any lineup... Benching Brook and starting Bobby was the solution Bud refused to apply for the last 2 years.

The Heat didn’t attack Brook or Midds last year in the playoffs. Jimmy cooked “the best defensive guard in the NBA” who is now one of the best six starters of all time.

Not sure how playing Bobby instead of Brook stops Jimmy from roasting Jrue, but agendas…

Also, didn’t the Bucks lose the year before last in a series that Brook and Midds played zero minutes on the floor together?

[ShootingtheJ]

AJ Green is better than Donte lol.
Don't get why DDV is even mentioned here.

All of you are posting reasonable arguments about Brook's overall impact ... I just don't want to see Boston or the Heat attack Brook and Khris in turns over and over again... it is so painful to watch us collapse for not adjusting roster or lineups.

Brook and Khris should not play together in almost any lineup... Benching Brook and starting Bobby was the solution Bud refused to apply for the last 2 years.

The Heat didn’t attack Brook or Midds last year in the playoffs. Jimmy cooked “the best defensive guard in the NBA” who is now one of the best six starters of all time.

Not sure how playing Bobby instead of Brook stops Jimmy from roasting Jrue, but agendas…

Also, didn’t the Bucks lose the year before last in a series that Brook and Midds played zero minutes on the floor together?

The Heat attacked Brook with all those Bam to Duncan Robinson DHO's while Brook was standing watching in the lane 20' away. Brook was -29 for the series, while Bobby was a net positive, but Bud was too dumb to give Bobby more minutes.

[-Jragon-]

Adding to that, overall if we lose in the playoffs again it's not going to be because of Brook or any other role player. In order IMO

Reasons if we end up losing b4 the finals:
1. Perimeter D
2. Giannis trying to be prime Westbrook or Harden and getting hurt
3. Khris trying to be Kobe and getting hurt
4. Bench overall not being able to hit 3s with hard closeouts

So in conclusion: if we're adding people make sure they are 3 and D quick trigger wings. Our front court is good enough.

Dame’s offense disappointing is a possible reason too. If he shoots 40% for example that probably won’t be good enough.

Every year Dame gets himself cooking. If he doesn't, probably refer to points 2 and 3. I probably should have added:

5. A.G. gets owned by the other East coaches
6. Internal personality problems blow up.. I don't anticipate that but getting down in a playoff series or blown out could spark something -- especially if they keep the ball away from Dame at the end of games and lose dribbling off their feet.

[neiLz]

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[Bucksmaniac]

AJ Green is better than Donte lol.
Don't get why DDV is even mentioned here.

All of you are posting reasonable arguments about Brook's overall impact ... I just don't want to see Boston or the Heat attack Brook and Khris in turns over and over again... it is so painful to watch us collapse for not adjusting roster or lineups.

Brook and Khris should not play together in almost any lineup... Benching Brook and starting Bobby was the solution Bud refused to apply for the last 2 years.

The Heat didn’t attack Brook or Midds last year in the playoffs. Jimmy cooked “the best defensive guard in the NBA” who is now one of the best six starters of all time.

Not sure how playing Bobby instead of Brook stops Jimmy from roasting Jrue, but agendas…

Also, didn’t the Bucks lose the year before last in a series that Brook and Midds played zero minutes on the floor together?

The Heat attacked Brook with all those Bam to Duncan Robinson DHO's while Brook was standing watching in the lane 20' away. Brook was -29 for the series, while Bobby was a net positive, but Bud was too dumb to give Bobby more minutes.

Through the first four games of the series Brook was -16 and Bobby -15, and Brook was cooking offensively regularly. Definitely don’t blame Bud for riding Brook a bit more than usual. Game 5 when Bobby had that better +/- he was a zero offensively so I’m going to consider that a bit of a fluke of who he was sharing the court with.

[RogerMurdock]

What makes you think DDV is better than either AJ?

Of course DDV is better than either of those guys. One of them might be better than him in the future, but not right now.

[Ron Swanson]

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This is why getting one more swiss-army-knife defensive guy like DFS or Thybulle makes this team unstoppable IMO.

[crowhead76]

Bucks in: Thybulle, Eason, Landale
Rockets in: Bobby, Pat
Blazers in: Oladipo, Marjon, 2024 2nd

Lillard | Payne
Thybulle | Beasley | Green
Middleton | Eason | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Crowder | Livingston
Lopez | Landale | Lopez

[Ron Swanson]

Bucks in: Thybulle, Eason, Landale
Rockets in: Bobby, Pat
Blazers in: Oladipo, Marjon, 2024 2nd

I wish. I think we need to let the Eason dream die though. He's gonna make an All-Defense team this year.

[Mtsportsfan]

Bucks in: Thybulle, Eason, Landale
Rockets in: Bobby, Pat
Blazers in: Oladipo, Marjon, 2024 2nd

This trade makes sense. We get a big back for Bobby, a good if not great defender in Thybulle . Don't know much about Eason. Losing fly by Pat is ok ,and Marjon is such a big question mark at this point , hate losing Bobby but I think this trade could make us better.

[BigO]

I don't see any way the Bucks ever trade Pat, because of his ties to one of the lesser owners.

I think it is highly unlikely they trade Bobby, because I think Horst sees his value, like I do. BP is also one of Giannis's favorites.

PC is totally expendable, which is why he won't have great trade value.

BP could bring a lot of value, despite being totally undervalued on this board. Even though it is highly unlikely, I would consider trading Bobby for the right package. I think Eason is a great idea, but we also need a good big in return. Not going to happen.

[Ayt]

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I was just going to post this from Lowe which is similar but includes Lopez.

One stat to watch that I mentioned earlier this week on the Lowe Post podcast: Milwaukee has outscored opponents by almost 19 points per 100 possessions with its four best players - Lillard, Middleton, Antetokounmpo, and Lopez - on the floor, with a defensive rating that would rank No. 1 among teams. The Bucks' overall defense has not been up to par, but that's a good sign of championship viabilty.

[-Jragon-]

What makes you think DDV is better than either AJ?

Of course DDV is better than either of those guys. One of them might be better than him in the future, but not right now.

1. You avoid the important part of the question "what"
2. You think he's bouncing from team to team because he's so good? He's well on his way to being a minimum salary guy soon
3. We don't know what the AJ's offer in the post season, they might have stone cold nuts and step up like so many Miami young guys have. We already know DDV is a poo poo platter in the playoffs -- we've seen him crap the bed enough missing wide open 3 after wide open 3 as teams chose him to double off of him and leave him unchecked.. did we see the AJs miss those? So we don't know, do we.

[ReddoverKobe]

I don't see any way the Bucks ever trade Pat, because of his ties to one of the lesser owners.

I think it is highly unlikely they trade Bobby, because I think Horst sees his value, like I do. BP is also one of Giannis's favorites.

PC is totally expendable, which is why he won't have great trade value.

BP could bring a lot of value, despite being totally undervalued on this board. Even though it is highly unlikely, I would consider trading Bobby for the right package. I think Eason is a great idea, but we also need a good big in return. Not going to happen.

Good post. Unless its a lopsided trade in the Bucks favor Pat is not going anyplace.

[Ayt]

What makes you think DDV is better than either AJ?

Of course DDV is better than either of those guys. One of them might be better than him in the future, but not right now.

1. You avoid the important part of the question "what"
2. You think he's bouncing from team to team because he's so good? He's well on his way to being a minimum salary guy soon
3. We don't know what the AJ's offer in the post season, they might have stone cold nuts and step up like so many Miami young guys have. We already know DDV is a poo poo platter in the playoffs -- we've seen him crap the bed enough missing wide open 3 after wide open 3 as teams chose him to double off of him and leave him unchecked.. did we see the AJs miss those? So we don't know, do we.

Donte is in the 1st year of a 4 year deal.

[German Athens]

Finding true defensive assets who are also a positive on the offensive end are really hard to find. You’re basically talking about borderline all-stars or better. The lowest on the totem pole may be Derrick white, who’s really irritatingly good.

If I remember correctly, I think he was acquired with a single first. If he became available now, he’d go for a lot more than that, but the point would be to try to find the next Derrick white.

The only player that I can think of that may have a similar trajectory and have actual two-way impact while being a real defensive asset would be Quickley.

He doesn’t offer the size of white which likely limits his defensive ceiling some, but he’s still very good on that end with potential to improve.

If NYK are looking to win now, and, with that, not all that interested in picks for Quickley, maybe the Bobby+ package actually could get it done.

[BigO]

Donte:

The Good-very good defender/disruptor
The Bad-has hard time staying on the court; cannot finish at the rim, so can play him as tight as you want
Question Mark- his outside shooting for his first 5 years was abysmal; better last year and this year. Don't know which one you will get.

[Profound23]

Donte:

The Good-very good defender/disruptor
The Bad-has hard time staying on the court; cannot finish at the rim, so can play him as tight as you want
Question Mark- his outside shooting for his first 5 years was abysmal; better last year and this year. Don't know which one you will get.

The bold reminds me so much of AJJ.