Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Loved that Parker video. He looked like a stud.

A couple problems with these videos though. Most are shot at ground level. At that angle people see speed and power up close that they usually don't see when watching the NBA from a normal high court angle. If you sit courtside at an NBA game, almost ALL of the players look ridiculously impressive as to how fast they move and how quick they can handle the ball.

Second piece is the shooting prowess In a workout. Again most people don't see really good basketball players work out. Watch some D1 college players warm up in a serious fashion. You'll see them hit shots right and left from all over the court.

Good points.

[MrPerfect1]

I'm mainly anti Parker but I do like the moves and ball handling he showed in that video and looks to be in better than expected shape.

I do wish the videos would replace the dunking with other stuff. I don't think many people question Embiid's/Parker's/Wiggins ability to dunk.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Anybody else crazy enough to try Parker at SG?

[paulpressey25]

I'm mainly anti Parker but I do like the moves and ball handling he showed in that video and looks to be in better than expected shape.

I do wish the videos would replace the dunking with other stuff. I don't think many people question Embiid's/Parker's/Wiggins ability to dunk.

Oh Jabari looked great in that video. Quick and slim.

I just was noting that those videos are designed to make guys look like super heroes and it isn't that tough to do. We've just all seen great Yi, Potsie, Marcus Haislip videos before. Camera angle plays a big part in it.

I'm just trying to avoid the siren song of Jabari, because IMO Wiggins is going to be a stud wing defender and that skill isn't going to show up in any of these videos, including whatever Wiggins releases of his own workout.

[Chapter29]

I am anti Parker, but really only because we are picking #2 and I don't see him in the same league athletically as Embiid, Wiggins and Exum.

I am hopeful that there is a superstar or perhaps more in this draft. I want that superstar. Not just an all-star which there may be a few in this draft.

Most superstars are superior athletes and 2 way players. I think Parker may struggle to guard the more athletic SF's for example.

Question to the people wanting Parker with the 2nd pick. Is he a superstar in your eyes?

[JustinCredible]

How badly would Parker get killed on defense if we played him at SG? Honestly, if he could play SG, I would easily put him ahead of Wiggins. I just hate the idea of drafting a guy that plays Giannis' best position. I don't think there is anyway Parker can legitimately play the 4 in the NBA. I guess if we draft Parker we could eventually make Giannis our PF, but I kind of like Giannis at the 3.

Fit with Giannis has been my big concern with Parker as well. However, I am starting to realize the difficulty that other teams would have matching up with us when we have the ball. Having wings that are 6'8 and 6'11 with quickness would be very unique. I think Giannis can guard 2's and. 3's and Parker can guard some 3's and some 4's.

If Giannis can learn a post game then we can create some crazy mismatches.

[JustinCredible]

I am anti Parker, but really only because we are picking #2 and I don't see him in the same league athletically as Embiid, Wiggins and Exum.

I am hopeful that there is a superstar or perhaps more in this draft. I want that superstar. Not just an all-star which there may be a few in this draft.

Most superstars are superior athletes and 2 way players. I think Parker may struggle to guard the more athletic SF's for example.

Question to the people wanting Parker with the 2nd pick. Is he a superstar in your eyes?

I am not sure I want Parker with the pick but he is growing on me. I think he is the closest thing to a lock in this draft of being a multiple All-Star guy. He is also the only guy at the top that is a bonafide go-to scorer that could be a closer in the final parts of games. We need that type of a guy.

I think he is Carmelo Anthony with effort, high character, and coachable. So yes, I think he will improve on his weaknesses and be a superstar.

[jwalsh52]

You get the same height with Wiggins as Parker and don't have to force them in a position they are not used to playing or isn't their best situation. Wiggins at SG and Giannis at SF keeps them in a position they work well in. Trying to fit Parker or Giannis into a SG or PF doesn't play to their strengths.

[chonestown]

How badly would Parker get killed on defense if we played him at SG? Honestly, if he could play SG, I would easily put him ahead of Wiggins. I just hate the idea of drafting a guy that plays Giannis' best position. I don't think there is anyway Parker can legitimately play the 4 in the NBA. I guess if we draft Parker we could eventually make Giannis our PF, but I kind of like Giannis at the 3.

If he's a minus defender in college against 3s, it'd be a damn bloodbath if he was matching up against NBA 2s.

RGM rankings seem curiously tied in to the recency of posted workout videos.

[jwalsh52]

I don't see Parker being the outside shooter that Melo is.

[paulpressey25]

You get the same height with Wiggins as Parker and don't have to force them in a position they are not used to playing or isn't their best situation. Wiggins at SG and Giannis at SF keeps them in a position they work well in. Trying to fit Parker or Giannis into a SG or PF doesn't play to their strengths.

The other bonus is that with Wiggins height, length and leaping ability, he's going to be putting up double digit rebound games quite a bit IMO.

[machu46]

I don't see Parker being the outside shooter that Melo is.

To be fair, as a huge Cuse fan and someone that admittedly isn't as high on Jabari (he's my #4 guy), Melo's 3 point shooting wasn't a strength until the last couple years. Jabari was just as much a long range shooter as Melo in college.

What set Melo apart is that he's far quicker and was just a filthy ball handler for his size along with his amazing jab steps and first step.

[drew881]

I don't see Parker being the outside shooter that Melo is.

To be fair, as a huge Cuse fan and someone that admittedly isn't as high on Jabari (he's my #4 guy), Melo's 3 point shooting wasn't a strength until the last couple years. Jabari was just as much a long range shooter as Melo in college.

What set Melo apart is that he's far quicker and was just a filthy ball handler for his size along with his amazing jab steps and first step.

Yep. Carmelo's college game was more like Julius Randle than it was Jarbrari Parker. He was great at bulling his way into the paint.

[Cold Crush 24]

With Parker and Embiid there's a log jam. Not that I prefer Sanders over Embiid but it does create an issue. We clearly need to go BPA. If Wiggins is there it solves a lot of problems. The only downside is Drake will be sitting court side to fanboy his countryman.

So how do we sell CLE on Parker or Embiid?

[VooDoo7]

I don't mean to rain on their parade, but even I could run, dunk, and put up 41 points against that trio of 6'3 guards from West Virginia.

STFU. Just, STFU.

[Wise1]

Anybody else crazy enough to try Parker at SG?

Why even entertain the thought? He's a 3-4 (not a tweener at all with a 7 foot wingspan and 6-8 / 240lb frame). Giannis is a 2,3,4 (he'll probably be able to defend the post after he matures physically, adds that man strength, and learns how to leverage that ridiculous reach).

There is no legitimate argument for Parker and Giannis not being able to play together. They're actually a perfect match. Giannis likes to create plays...Parker makes plays. Parker will give Giannis a POWERFUL wing man to run the court and finish.

It's Embiid or Parker for the Bucks. No amount of smokescreening is going to convince me otherwise leading up to the draft. Wiggins' defense is great, but the Bucks probably are confident in Sanders and Knight as anchors defensively on the interior and perimeter respectively. They desperately need a go to scorer to wrest control of the offense from Brandon Knight. Parker will be their guy if he's there. It makes too much sense. I think Parker projects to be the best skill player at the top of this draft long term. The Bucks may feel that way as well.

[Wise1]

You get the same height with Wiggins as Parker and don't have to force them in a position they are not used to playing or isn't their best situation. Wiggins at SG and Giannis at SF keeps them in a position they work well in. Trying to fit Parker or Giannis into a SG or PF doesn't play to their strengths.

The other bonus is that with Wiggins height, length and leaping ability, he's going to be putting up double digit rebound games quite a bit IMO.

I'm going to go on record as saying between the two, Parker will be a more prolific rebounder than Wiggins at the next level. Rebounding in the NBA is mostly about establishing position (power and instincts) and being aggressive in the midst of aggressive men.

[JustinCredible]

You get the same height with Wiggins as Parker and don't have to force them in a position they are not used to playing or isn't their best situation. Wiggins at SG and Giannis at SF keeps them in a position they work well in. Trying to fit Parker or Giannis into a SG or PF doesn't play to their strengths.

The other bonus is that with Wiggins height, length and leaping ability, he's going to be putting up double digit rebound games quite a bit IMO.

I'm going to go on record as saying between the two, Parker will be a more prolific rebounder than Wiggins at the next level. Rebounding in the NBA is mostly about establishing position (power and instincts) and being aggressive in the midst of aggressive men.

Yea I agree with Wise here. I don't see any way Wiggins rebounds better than Parker in the NBA. Maybe better for his position, but Parker will have more rebounds.

[Waukee Taukee]

I'm not sure Parker is going to make a lot of opponents miss with his defense so he probably doesn't create as many rebounding opportunities as Wiggins. Honestly, I could care less about the individual stats. It's a team sport and forcing missed shots/turnovers is more important to a team's success than which player accumulates the most rebounds.

Parker's offense would be fantastic; his defense is under-developed. Wiggins' offense is under-developed but his defense would fantastic. I prefer the latter because I can leave him on the court while he figures out his offense.

[Frank Nova]

Anybody else crazy enough to try Parker at SG?

It's hard to imagine Parker chasing around the James Hardens and Ray Allen's of the NBA on defense. SG is generally a very active position. Parker has the skill to play on the perimeter on both ends but guarding SGs that run around off multiple screens just about every possession isn't something I see Parker being comfortable with. He seems like the type that plays hard on defense but is more focused on the offensive end. You don't want players like that exhausted and beaten up from screens more than they already have to be especially when that same player is shouldering your scoring load.

I find Parker to be a more hybrid forward rather than a hybrid swingman. That's just me personally. Parker's best position on the Bucks would be at PF between Giannis and Larry, not at SG between Knight and Giannis.