Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

[xTitan]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

[Profound23]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

Maybe we can trade him for a decent center who can rebound and a first round draft pick?

[leroyjw10]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

Hindsight being 20/20, I have to wonder how this team would look if the Bledsoe trade never happened. I know he's had some big games and played vital roles in victories, but they were arguably better before the trade. Keeping Monroe limits the damage Thon has done and will continue to do. I know he lacks quickness, but I'm still very much pro-Brogdon as our PG of the future. Finally, if they had never traded for Bledsoe, I'm curious if Mumford would've gotten a shot as the backup PG and if he would've seized the opportunity. Plus, we'd still have that 1st rounder to potentially use elsewhere.

To me, Bledsoe is who we thought he was, but his deficiencies have been a little more deficient than hoped for. His 3-point shooting (31% with Bucks) has been almost a career worse, his shot selection questionable, his ball distribution almost non-existent (17.8% assist rate: 65 out of 74 among PGs) and his decision making (1.38:1 assist:turnover: 48 out of 49 qualified PGs) leaving much to be desired.

Of course, as with all Bucks, there's the caveat of how Bledsoe would look if Kidd wasn't the coach. I think it's very likely that Bledsoe, along with every other Buck, would look much better under a different coach.

[LuessiT]

While I do think trading Bledsoe might be a good move, the trade for Bledsoe still was positive in terms of asset management imo. Monroe was a neutral contract at best and that pick isn't as much as it is made out to be. If we were to trade Bledsoe (which we should be at some point before we'd have to extend him), we'd get a more valueable piece in return than we gave up.

[GeraldG]

We need to be patient with signings and waiting for correct deals. By that I mean not sign Delly to $9mil and then realize Brogdon does the same things but better. Or sign Snell to $9mil and then realize Brown does the same things but with more versatility.

Giannis may be ready to win, but bledsoe and khris obviously aren't good enough pieces and nobody else is ready, the roster is lopsided, and Kidd thinks we're still playing 2000s basketball.

My trade deadline move: use bledsoe to get a first and/or a team friendly deal (Jae Crowder pls)

[VooDoo7]

While I do think trading Bledsoe might be a good move, the trade for Bledsoe still was positive in terms of asset management imo. Monroe was a neutral contract at best and that pick isn't as much as it is made out to be.

This is only because we can't draft worth a sh*t in the first round.

[paulpressey25]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

If we dealt Bledsoe, we'd go back to the absolute crap guard defense. That said for the right deal and with a new coach I'd listen. Would be like acquiring Brandon and flipping him for Cassell 18 months later.

Bledsoe, Snell, Telly for Kemba and Dwight works for me.

[PG Graveyard]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

If we dealt Bledsoe, we'd go back to the absolute crap guard defense. That said for the right deal and with a new coach I'd listen. Would be like acquiring Brandon and flipping him for Cassell 18 months later.

Bledsoe, Snell, Telly for Kemba and Dwight works for me.

Let’s just go get Dwight and get crazy. It will be entertaining at the very least.

[MrHoneycutt]

I can't say that I disagree on the sentiment that it would be interesting to see what we could turn Bledsoe into via trade (a tantalizing comparison with the Brandon-Cassell trades), but I think it would be even more interesting if we could get some competent souls in to give us some semblance of a few offensive sets. I am so tired of watching our offense fumble around, if we could lay down a new foundation where things are a little more fluid (read: Middleton doesn't dribble so much, Bledsoe kicks it back out more often, more PNR, things funnel through Giannis), it would almost look like a different team out there. You have to think there would certainly be less trapping on D as well.

[Frank Nova]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

If we dealt Bledsoe, we'd go back to the absolute crap guard defense. That said for the right deal and with a new coach I'd listen. Would be like acquiring Brandon and flipping him for Cassell 18 months later.

Bledsoe, Snell, Telly for Kemba and Dwight works for me.

I'd be on this trade but I'd honestly rather keep Snell and try and sell them on Vaughn or Wilson. Trading Snell would leave us real thin on the wing and I know we all hate his contract and what not but I still think he's solid enough to help a winning team with his role.

Kemba, Brogdon, Middleton, Giannis, Dwight
Delly, Sterling, Snell, Parker, Henson
Thon, Kilpatrick

That would be my active 12 after ASW. I'd be very confident that's a team that could go 20-10 the last 30 games at worst.

[LuessiT]

If we somehow could flip Bledsoe+ for CJ that would be great.

[leroyjw10]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

If we dealt Bledsoe, we'd go back to the absolute crap guard defense. That said for the right deal and with a new coach I'd listen. Would be like acquiring Brandon and flipping him for Cassell 18 months later.

Bledsoe, Snell, Telly for Kemba and Dwight works for me.

I don't disagree that Bledsoe is a better man-to-man defender than Brogdon or Delly, but he also gambles a lot more. And while sometimes this results in a steal, I'd guess more often than not it results in more scrambling and more open looks for the other team. Steals look great in the box score, but I'd much rather they come within the framework of good, solid team defense.

For example, the Bucks defense had a 105.3 defensive rating through October, 19th in the league at the time and before Bledsoe arrived. Not great, but not horrible. If they had maintained that rating, though, they'd be 14th in the NBA.

For the season, the Bucks defense has a 107.6 defensive rating, 25th in the league. So the Bucks team defense has actually been considerably worse since Bledsoe arrived. I'm not wholly pinning this on Bledsoe as this defense has all sorts of problems, but I don't think you can discount the smart team defense Brogdon and Delly play.

[mlloyd10]

Huge 4 teamer

Bucks get : Howard/Hood
Hornets get: Middleton/Mudiay/Faried/Delly
Nuggets get: Walker
Jazz get: Franky K

[M-C-G]

I'd be real interested in moving on from Bledsoe, he can't shoot and often shows a questionable basketball IQ, but he'd have value to a team who values penetration and aggressive on ball defense (just will need an elite rim protector when he often over plays).

If we dealt Bledsoe, we'd go back to the absolute crap guard defense. That said for the right deal and with a new coach I'd listen. Would be like acquiring Brandon and flipping him for Cassell 18 months later.

Bledsoe, Snell, Telly for Kemba and Dwight works for me.

I don't disagree that Bledsoe is a better man-to-man defender than Brogdon or Delly, but he also gambles a lot more. And while sometimes this results in a steal, I'd guess more often than not it results in more scrambling and more open looks for the other team. Steals look great in the box score, but I'd much rather they come within the framework of good, solid team defense.

For example, the Bucks defense had a 105.3 defensive rating through October, 19th in the league at the time and before Bledsoe arrived. Not great, but not horrible. If they had maintained that rating, though, they'd be 14th in the NBA.

For the season, the Bucks defense has a 107.6 defensive rating, 25th in the league. So the Bucks team defense has actually been considerably worse since Bledsoe arrived. I'm not wholly pinning this on Bledsoe as this defense has all sorts of problems, but I don't think you can discount the smart team defense Brogdon and Delly play.

I would guess Thon getting more minutes since the trade and being absolutely awful is far more likely the culprit for the numbers you are posting. I mean, we aren’t bad without Thon. We are awful with him on the court.


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[paulpressey25]

I'd be on this trade but I'd honestly rather keep Snell and try and sell them on Vaughn or Wilson. .

I agree that losing Snell would hurt the team in the short run. The challenge is the money. Dwight makes $25mm per for two years. That combined with Jabari's new contract means we can't afford the luxury of a $10mm a year role player who sometimes scores 0-4 points some nights.

[LuessiT]

Huge 4 teamer

Bucks get : Howard/Hood
Hornets get: Middleton/Mudiay/Faried/Delly
Nuggets get: Walker
Jazz get: Franky K

This is beyond awful for us. Howard is a negative and Hood just slightly positive.

[SkilesTheLimit]

I'd be on this trade but I'd honestly rather keep Snell and try and sell them on Vaughn or Wilson. .

I agree that losing Snell would hurt the team in the short run. The challenge is the money. Dwight makes $25mm per for two years. That combined with Jabari's new contract means we can't afford the luxury of a $10mm a year role player who sometimes scores 0-4 points some nights.

The problem is we have many players I would like to dump, both in terms of lack of production and overpaying:

Overpaying

Snell
Telly
Delly
Henson

Lack of Production

Wilson
Maker
Vaughn

We are stuck with most if these guys, unfortunately. I can't figure out what is worse...overpaying all these bums $10M+ per year or absolutely busting on the last 3 first-round picks. Small market teams cannot afford this many misses.

[ReginaldDwight]

Hard to call Henson an overpay at this point imo, the Elly Brothers are really the problem right now, getting nothing from them from now.

[mlloyd10]

Huge 4 teamer

Bucks get : Howard/Hood
Hornets get: Middleton/Mudiay/Faried/Delly
Nuggets get: Walker
Jazz get: Franky K

This is beyond awful for us. Howard is a negative and Hood just slightly positive.

Howard is not a negative. Howard is not a negative. Howard is not a negative

[raferfenix]

Thinking about what the Cavs offer for Bledsoe.