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Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added

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Nurse
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82%
Atkinson
24
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Griffin
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Total votes: 150

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Post#881 » by floppymoose » Sun May 14, 2023 10:42 pm

Profound23 wrote:He didn't vote Jokic for any of the top 5 MVP votes because he completely forgot about him. That's all I need to know.

Being an idiot is actually his least problematic bad trait. He's basically a cult leader.
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Post#882 » by Profound23 » Sun May 14, 2023 10:44 pm

Serge28 wrote:Can we please hire Nurse before Phoenix does?

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That is why Nurse makes the most sense imo. The guy who built the wall that temporarily stopped Giannis for an entire off-season. Don't you want a guy like that on our team? He is an innovator and knows how to made adjustments. It seems too much like right imo.
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Post#883 » by MickeyDavis » Sun May 14, 2023 11:03 pm

I don't think money would be an issue with Nurse or any other coach. We just ate $16 million with Bud and have Jimmy deep pockets in tow. No way we hire an inexperienced assistant to save a few bucks.
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Post#884 » by Profound23 » Sun May 14, 2023 11:31 pm

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Profound23 wrote:He didn't vote Jokic for any of the top 5 MVP votes because he completely forgot about him. That's all I need to know.

Being an idiot is actually his least problematic bad trait. He's basically a cult leader.



Surprisingly, that's the least of my worries. The guy can pray to Gazoo from the Flintstones for all I care. He can have any outside beliefs that he wants, just make sure you prepare like no other. And any announcer/reporter who doesn't vote for one of the top players in the game as MVP because he just "forgot about him" is not preparing well for his job and won't prepare well as a coach.

Unless he was just kidding at which point I renounce my statement.
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Re: Head Coaching Candidates 

Post#885 » by RiotPunch » Sun May 14, 2023 11:39 pm

Profound23 wrote:
floppymoose wrote:
Profound23 wrote:He didn't vote Jokic for any of the top 5 MVP votes because he completely forgot about him. That's all I need to know.

Being an idiot is actually his least problematic bad trait. He's basically a cult leader.



Surprisingly, that's the least of my worries. The guy can pray to Gazoo from the Flintstones for all I care. He can have any outside beliefs that he wants, just make sure you prepare like no other. And any announcer/reporter who doesn't vote for one of the top players in the game as MVP because he just "forgot about him" is not preparing well for his job and won't prepare well as a coach.

Unless he was just kidding at which point I renounce my statement.

His faith and use of faith in his coaching isn't the cult-y aspect to me, it is trying to turn his players against each other for his benefit. I remember that Lowe Grantland piece from years ago that alleged Jackson told his team that injured Festus Ezeli was actively rooting against them, widely regarded as a huge lie that led to an emotional confrontation with Festus.
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Post#886 » by blazza18 » Sun May 14, 2023 11:46 pm

I honestly can't wrap my head around the benefit of us wanting to interview Jackson? Like it would need to mean we catch a huge break elsewhere for wanting that news out there. The guy is a terrible person and last coached almost a decade ago. It's not worth any bad mojo coming from it.
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Post#887 » by MVP2110 » Mon May 15, 2023 12:03 am

blazza18 wrote:I honestly can't wrap my head around the benefit of us wanting to interview Jackson? Like it would need to mean we catch a huge break elsewhere for wanting that news out there. The guy is a terrible person and last coached almost a decade ago. It's not worth any bad mojo coming from it.


And there is literally no point. He doesn't have an agent so this isn't just being done as a favor. It's hard to understate how bad this coaching search has gone so far. I don't even want Kenny Atkinson and I'm begging for him or Scott Brooks right now, that's how bad this is
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Post#888 » by jpre223 » Mon May 15, 2023 12:10 am

It’s all doom and gloom- but we have no idea how many candidates they are planning on interviewing, who they may have already interviewed, or what they are thinking. It’s a dangerous game to speculate based upon whatever the media is putting out there. Patience, everyone. Patience.
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Post#889 » by mke_design » Mon May 15, 2023 12:27 am

jpre223 wrote:It’s all doom and gloom- but we have no idea how many candidates they are planning on interviewing, who they may have already interviewed, or what they are thinking. It’s a dangerous game to speculate based upon whatever the media is putting out there. Patience, everyone. Patience.


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Post#890 » by Jez2983 » Mon May 15, 2023 12:29 am

If we hire Mark Jackson that will free up a lot of time for me over both the Australian and US summers.
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Post#891 » by Plossum » Mon May 15, 2023 12:30 am

If we hire Jackson I might about be done. I'll go back to pining for the Sonics to come back to the NBA.

I suspect (hope) this is just about showing an NBA legend some respect and we're not serious about it.
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Post#892 » by El Pooch Grande » Mon May 15, 2023 12:55 am

I assume there continues to be absolutely nothing out there connecting us to Nurse?
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Post#893 » by GregAz » Mon May 15, 2023 1:08 am

rilamann wrote:I can't imagine Nurse not wanting to coach the Bucks, maybe he don't.

I know if I was a coach I would want to coach the team with the best player.

It could be that Nurse doesnt see the Bucks as championship level. And then if we don't win next year, very real possibility Giannis leaves. The reality is there is a very short on the whole organization with a very narrow window to have this turn out ok. I believe the most likely outcome is we are looking at a rebuilding team with no giannis in 2024. I hope I'm wrong, but this team needs more than a coach, I firmly believe if we don't swap out Jrue for a playmaker, we are done. Even that path counts on Khris to hold up, which is dicey to say the least.
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Post#894 » by Daver » Mon May 15, 2023 1:36 am

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rilamann wrote:I can't imagine Nurse not wanting to coach the Bucks, maybe he don't.

I know if I was a coach I would want to coach the team with the best player.

It could be that Nurse doesnt see the Bucks as championship level. And then if we don't win next year, very real possibility Giannis leaves. The reality is there is a very short on the whole organization with a very narrow window to have this turn out ok. I believe the most likely outcome is we are looking at a rebuilding team with no giannis in 2024. I hope I'm wrong, but this team needs more than a coach, I firmly believe if we don't swap out Jrue for a playmaker, we are done. Even that path counts on Khris to hold up, which is dicey to say the least.




We can keep jrue and still get that playmaking PG put jrue at the 2 spot where he belongs FVV or rozier takes care of that problem
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Post#895 » by jimmybones » Mon May 15, 2023 1:36 am

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I wouldn't mind a gutsy hire. We've already incurred most of the risk by firing our championship coach.


I wouldn't either. I think Horst (the real GM) and us RealGM pretenders are all coming to the realization that there is nobody on the list of usual suspects better qualified than the guy who just got booted.

That to me is a good argument for skipping the "none of these are any better" list and taking a flyer.


I don't know about a flyer, but I think if you've got conviction you don't let their current job confuse things, whether that's podcaster, NBA assistant, or HC in some other league.


I totally agree. I really don’t care as much about experience as much as most seem to.

For one, if a candidate has experience doing the job you want them to do but is unemployed, is that not direct evidence that they were not that great at the job you’re looking to hire them to do? Yes, circumstances differ and we have a Giannis, but if they’re truly that good at the job, they wouldn’t be looking for a job.

More importantly, in every field there are tons of very talented people that have yet to have the opportunity to do the job. Top organizations (of any business) have vision and find those gems before they are known commodities.

You said it, “conviction.” I’d do 20, hell 50 interviews and hire the person with the most compelling vision to hanging another banner, regardless of experience.
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Post#896 » by floppymoose » Mon May 15, 2023 1:39 am

RiotPunch wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
floppymoose wrote:Being an idiot is actually his least problematic bad trait. He's basically a cult leader.



Surprisingly, that's the least of my worries. The guy can pray to Gazoo from the Flintstones for all I care. He can have any outside beliefs that he wants, just make sure you prepare like no other. And any announcer/reporter who doesn't vote for one of the top players in the game as MVP because he just "forgot about him" is not preparing well for his job and won't prepare well as a coach.

Unless he was just kidding at which point I renounce my statement.

His faith and use of faith in his coaching isn't the cult-y aspect to me, it is trying to turn his players against each other for his benefit. I remember that Lowe Grantland piece from years ago that alleged Jackson told his team that injured Festus Ezeli was actively rooting against them, widely regarded as a huge lie that led to an emotional confrontation with Festus.


Yes, it's the combination of control freak, con artistry, narcissism, paranoia, and hypocrisy that I am referring to with "cult leader", not his particular religious beliefs.
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Post#897 » by fan230 » Mon May 15, 2023 1:59 am

Any chance of Bucks contacting Brad Stevens?
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Post#898 » by GregAz » Mon May 15, 2023 2:22 am

Daver wrote:
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rilamann wrote:I can't imagine Nurse not wanting to coach the Bucks, maybe he don't.

I know if I was a coach I would want to coach the team with the best player.

It could be that Nurse doesnt see the Bucks as championship level. And then if we don't win next year, very real possibility Giannis leaves. The reality is there is a very short on the whole organization with a very narrow window to have this turn out ok. I believe the most likely outcome is we are looking at a rebuilding team with no giannis in 2024. I hope I'm wrong, but this team needs more than a coach, I firmly believe if we don't swap out Jrue for a playmaker, we are done. Even that path counts on Khris to hold up, which is dicey to say the least.




We can keep jrue and still get that playmaking PG put jrue at the 2 spot where he belongs FVV or rozier takes care of that problem


Neither FVV or Rozier have enough weight to get the ball out of Khris, Jrue or Giannis' hands in the playoffs. They would be catch and shoot players on offense, not playmakers with the current big three still in place. Anyone we can get without giving up Jrue or middleton is going to be a 4th or 5th option on offense which doesn't help.
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Post#899 » by 0BobLobLaw0 » Mon May 15, 2023 2:25 am

If there are no interviews set up with Nurse or Lue by _______, we should be worried


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Post#900 » by RiotPunch » Mon May 15, 2023 2:31 am

fan230 wrote:Any chance of Bucks contacting Brad Stevens?

Sure, but they should expect voicemail and no response.
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