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[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I'm ok moving on from Brook and would welcome the right sign and trade, but I just don't get the haste to get rid of him, especially if he'd be willing to come back cheap.

he commits us to the wrong style of play generally.... even if he can be uber effective from time to time with it

no caoch can manage the idea of playing him 30 minutes one night and not at all the next

lopez more than any other player....prince or kuzma included.... cost us being competitive in that indy series

[Ron Swanson]

I'm ok moving on from Brook and would welcome the right sign and trade, but I just don't get the haste to get rid of him, especially if he'd be willing to come back cheap.

he commits us to the wrong style of play generally.... even if he can be uber effective from time to time with it

no caoch can manage the idea of playing him 30 minutes one night and not at all the next

We literally just saw Chris Finch bench his highest paid player (Gobert) in the 4th quarter of a conference finals game lol.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I'm ok moving on from Brook and would welcome the right sign and trade, but I just don't get the haste to get rid of him, especially if he'd be willing to come back cheap.

he commits us to the wrong style of play generally.... even if he can be uber effective from time to time with it

no caoch can manage the idea of playing him 30 minutes one night and not at all the next

We literally just saw Chris Finch bench his highest paid player (Gobert) in the 4th quarter of a conference finals game lol.

well fair enough. but too little to late my point remains in that sense. doc benched lopez by the end of our series as well. game to game its hard to define. 7 game series it becomes obvious by the end

[EasyE31]

I'm ok moving on from Brook and would welcome the right sign and trade, but I just don't get the haste to get rid of him, especially if he'd be willing to come back cheap.

he commits us to the wrong style of play generally.... even if he can be uber effective from time to time with it

no caoch can manage the idea of playing him 30 minutes one night and not at all the next

lopez more than any other player....prince or kuzma included.... cost us being competitive in that indy series

It depends on the deal when they bring him back. If he's committed to playing more of a reserve 10-20 minutes per night role he'd be great. Even if its not our ideal style of play its still good to be able to play big when you need to.

[JimmyTheKid]

I'm ok moving on from Brook and would welcome the right sign and trade, but I just don't get the haste to get rid of him, especially if he'd be willing to come back cheap.

Because his lack of mobility forces you to do cringy gimmicky things on defense to hide, or keep him close to the basket, and you simply cannot string together enough stops to go on the necessary runs needed to beat high quality opponents. I mean if he wants to come back for the minimum and lead the bench cheerleading unit, I guess, but I highly doubt thats the role he's looking for.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I'm ok moving on from Brook and would welcome the right sign and trade, but I just don't get the haste to get rid of him, especially if he'd be willing to come back cheap.

he commits us to the wrong style of play generally.... even if he can be uber effective from time to time with it

no caoch can manage the idea of playing him 30 minutes one night and not at all the next

lopez more than any other player....prince or kuzma included.... cost us being competitive in that indy series

It depends on the deal when they bring him back. If he's committed to playing more of a reserve 10-20 minutes per night role he'd be great. Even if its not our ideal style of play its still good to be able to play big when you need to.

i mean theoretically yes. but if thats who youve got it changes the entire dynamic of the rest of the roster too. put a crazy active switching rim protecting dunker in the center spot and then you can build the roster out in modern fashion.

its almost like you have to decide.....besides giannis whose like a joker card....what kind of roster do you build to play defense around lopez. what kind of offense do you play with a guy like sims.

youre literally building two different teams on each side of the ball for when hes on the court and when hes off. its not like oh just play drop when hes there and something else when hes not. its a completely different dynamic and style of play for the entire roster

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I'm ok moving on from Brook and would welcome the right sign and trade, but I just don't get the haste to get rid of him, especially if he'd be willing to come back cheap.

Because his lack of mobility forces you to do cringy gimmicky things on defense to hide, or keep him close to the basket, and you simply cannot string together enough stops to go on the necessary runs needed to beat high quality opponents. I mean if he wants to come back for the minimum and lead the bench cheerleading unit, I guess, but I highly doubt thats the role he's looking for.

yes... you nailed it. we need up tempo in your face balls to the wall pace, defense, quick passing and shooting with giannis. he fits none of that. he destroys it

i like lopez. he should play with chirs paul or steph or some ballhandling savant. not a giannis led team without khris/jrue to help with the bogged downed half court style approach

[Ron Swanson]

Weird to act like Brook being on the roster somehow prevents you from doing different things schematically (hint: you're blaming the wrong person). If some of you think that he's only worth a minimum contract and to sit on the end of the bench and never play, then yeah, you don't want him back under any circumstances. I think that's a pretty crazy take and you just want him gone out of pure spite, but if that's your prerogative then whatever.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Weird to act like Brook being on the roster somehow prevents you from doing different things schematically (hint: you're blaming the wrong person). If some of you think that he's only worth a minimum contract and to sit on the end of the bench and never play, then yeah, you don't want him back under any circumstances. I think that's a pretty crazy take and you just want him gone out of pure spite, but if that's your prerogative then whatever.

i basically want the exact opposite of brook moving forward at the position.

i do recognize we won a title with him there 5 years ago. id emphasize the results since.

i think having a center that can defend the entire court.....the rim, the iso dribble, the pnr and get back for the 3.....is worth more than anything else at the position next to giannis. sims on/offs are a sign id like to point to. he excites me and hes not even that good. hes the anti-lopez tho. we need a better version of the anti lopez

the fact were generally better with sims there than lopez is the general point tho. imagine if we got a real guy. if were gonna build around a dinosaur then get a horford. his results as a general example speak

id seriously prefer FTD kurt thomas if were going for an old guy in a backup role

[Ron Swanson]

Beggars can't be choosers. I hate to do this because I'm a tried and true Jericho-holic, but if you guys are gonna squint at the lineup data, you have to point out that the offense was an absolute abomination with Sims out there. I'd emphasize that for all his flaws both real and perceived, Brook just gave you 32-minutes a night over 80-games of quality play that Jericho has neither the skill/talent nor durability to even remotely replicate. You can feasibly bring both guys back for relatively cheap, so I don't see how this is an either-or thing. Having options for different matchups isn't a bad thing.

[DingleJerry]

I get that Gobert point was more about good coaches being open to change based on matchups (seemingly the opposite of Doc). However, I think Goberts results, play and usage in the playoffs the last several years proves why we need to move on from Brook and play more modern with more speed. Gobert is a max paid player, and pretty much the best in the league at playing the style of D that Brook does, and he can't even stay on the floor in the playoffs for multiple years in a row now. Now imagine a guy 38 years old and even slower.

That said, I do like Brook and give him credit the last few years as one of the few who clearly cared and tried at all times. And I do think he's a competent backup if used properly. So league min for sure, or some other cheap deal (maybe so ti is a contract to trade) I'm fine with. At that point I shift my blame to the coaching staff (or GA if he's demanding it so he doesn't have to 'bang') being at fault if they can't break their addiction to him and use him in the right bench role (when the team is fully healthy). Problem is I don't trust the current staff at all to do that, so I'd prefer to remove the option from them

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I get that Gobert point was more about good coaches being open to change based on matchups (seemingly the opposite of Doc). However, I think Goberts results, play and usage in the playoffs the last several years proves why we need to move on from Brook and play more modern with more speed. Gobert is a max paid player, and pretty much the best in the league at playing the style of D that Brook does, and he can't even stay on the floor in the playoffs for multiple years in a row now. Now imagine a guy 38 years old and even slower.

That said, I do like Brook and give him credit the last few years as one of the few who clearly cared and tried at all times. And I do think he's a competent backup if used properly. So league min for sure, or some other cheap deal (maybe so ti is a contract to trade) I'm fine with. At that point I shift my blame to the coaching staff being at fault if they can't break their addiction to him and use him in the right bench role (when the team is fully healthy). Problem is I don't trust the current staff at all to do that, so I'd prefer to remove the option from them

i think we'd all take him back at the league min. thats not the offer hes getting so moot tho

if he wants his jersey retired in milwaukee then maybe he would take that deal but im doing that anyway so if he wants the money adios

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Beggars can't be choosers. I hate to do this because I'm a tried and true Jericho-holic, but if you guys are gonna squint at the lineup data, you have to point out that the offense was an absolute abomination with Sims out there. I'd emphasize that for all his flaws both real and perceived, Brook just gave you 32-minutes a night over 80-games of quality play that Jericho has neither the skill/talent nor durability to even remotely replicate. You can feasibly bring both guys back for relatively cheap, so I don't see how this is an either-or thing. Having options for different matchups isn't a bad thing.

if you read my post youll see that im not implying he needs to be the starter. i KNOW we can do better. but that mold man. thats all im suggesting

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

is there any data for sims/giannis two mans thats worth looking at? im horrible at knowing where to find that. i like portis starting and sims as the chess piece. i think if the metrics proved me wrong that would be the only thing that could talk me out of what my eyes saw

[Ron Swanson]

I'd personally just work out a cheap deal with the 3rd best free agent Center on this list because we already have his bird rights, but here, have at it guys:

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-centers-available-this-summer/

Take off the dudes that won't even hit the open market, are completely priced out of our range, are RFA's, have player options they'll probably exercise, etc. (Turner, Reid, Randle) and that's the barren wasteland of replacement level dudes you're looking at. Clint Capella? The corpse of Steven Adams? Bring Daniel Theis back from Europe? Jaxson Hayes? Achiuwa or Kornet on the BAE? Woof.

[M-C-G]

We have maybe the best transition big of all time. We anchor him with plodders and the result is embarrassing. Sure keep Lopez, I love the dude, but then we have to fire the coach for one who can handle having a dual identity team that plays all gas no brakes when Giannis is on the court and more traditional half court in the 15 mpg he rests.

KPJ is probably the only FA that matters for the next couple of years. I’d add Trent after, but then a massive drop,to the other guys. I think a lot of them are jags, despite the fact that I love them.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

We have maybe the best transition big of all time. We anchor him with plodders and the result is embarrassing. Sure keep Lopez, I love the dude, but then we have to fire the coach for one who can handle having a dual identity team that plays all gas no brakes when Giannis is on the court and more traditional half court in the 15 mpg he rests.

KPJ is probably the only FA that matters for the next couple of years. I’d add Trent after, but then a massive drop,to the other guys. I think a lot of them are jags, despite the fact that I love them.

correct on all points except green is worth what trent is. im going to avoid letting two games in the indy series sway me. if green had been given that opportunity he could have just as easily gone the **** off. he did in regular season games that got out of hand our way and then sat down. that was off the bench. give him a starters role and he could be just as nutty as trent was imo

trent is beasley. we can find guys like that every year. full MLE money for occasioanlly stupid shooters is nuts. fill the whole roster with guys like that with dough thats less. its weird but guys can run hot and cold for a year at a time. we need a stable of them. i dont think you invest it all in one guy

[soxperry]

We have maybe the best transition big of all time. We anchor him with plodders and the result is embarrassing. Sure keep Lopez, I love the dude, but then we have to fire the coach for one who can handle having a dual identity team that plays all gas no brakes when Giannis is on the court and more traditional half court in the 15 mpg he rests.

KPJ is probably the only FA that matters for the next couple of years. I’d add Trent after, but then a massive drop,to the other guys. I think a lot of them are jags, despite the fact that I love them.

correct on all points except green is worth what trent is. im going to avoid letting two games in the indy series sway me. if green had been given that opportunity he could have just as easily gone the **** off. he did in regular season games that got out of hand our way and then sat down. that was off the bench. give him a starters role and he could be just as nutty as trent was imo

trent is beasley. we can find guys like that every year. full MLE money for occasioanlly stupid shooters is nuts. fill the whole roster with guys like that with dough thats less. its weird but guys can run hot and cold for a year at a time. we need a stable of them. i dont think you invest it all in one guy

I know people like to say that Green can defend but in practice, in the playoffs, he can be hunted relentlessly by guys like Siakam as we saw over and over. I dont see Green as different from Trent tbh.

[BigO]

Thoughts:

1) I'm on Swanson's side on Lopez, assuming a significant cut in pay. He's a regular season minutes eater and is the only rim defender besides Giannis.
But I want a switchable big for specific matchups. The guy I want is Kevon Looney (maybe we can get a hometown discount). Defends the entire court well and excellent rebounder. Can't shoot, but unlike Kuzma, he's smart enough to know he shouldn't shoot.

2) I find it puzzling that Doc knew that Brook had to be benched in the Pacer's series and never (until the end) knew that Kuzma was even worse than Brook. Puzzling in that Brook has discernable bball skills and Kuzma doesn't have any.

3) The need for a three and d wing is as big as ever. Everyone wants one, so I'm not naive enough to think the Bucks will get one.

[Rstuedes24]

I keep hoping we make a deal with the Warriors, Kuminga and Moody are likely available and not overly expensive to get. I think both of them might do better in a new situation.