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[MoreTrife]

^^^ I added spoiler tags to your post. You even wrote "spoiler alert" so please use the tags in the future. Even if it's borderline use them. Thx.

The AI wrote that haha. But point taken.

[ReasonablySober]

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Always excellent, every year.

[jimmybones]

Anybody see the new Chappelle set? I haven't finished it yet and it has some funny moments but I feel like he's way overdoing it with the trans stuff, like stubbornly won't let it go. And the handicap stuff was a total miss for me. I'm not one to get offended at comedians doing comedy but it seemed tasteless to me and also, just not clever or funny. Disappointing that he feels the need to so stubbornly double down on this stuff because he's a comedic genius and does not need to.

[DingleJerry]

Anybody see the new Chappelle set? I haven't finished it yet and it has some funny moments but I feel like he's way overdoing it with the trans stuff, like stubbornly won't let it go. And the handicap stuff was a total miss for me. I'm not one to get offended at comedians doing comedy but it seemed tasteless to me and also, just not clever or funny. Disappointing that he feels the need to so stubbornly double down on this stuff because he's a comedic genius and does not need to.

I will eventually but haven't yet. What you said is basically what I thought on the last one, and it sounds like he just did it again. Last one wasn't even standup/comedy to me, it was just him ranting about how since he's the best comedian ever he can do and say whatever he wants and no one can tell him not due to free speech. I'm also not one to be offended, I find jokes of that nature some of the funniest stuff. But like lets actually have some jokes, not just you telling me how much smarter you are than me and that you can say whatever jokes you want. OK fine, uh tell some jokes then.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, Chappelle has kinda turned into a pretentious caricature of himself and it's really sad. He's more concerned with styling himself this brave culture warrior than he is with satirizing and making people laugh at the real injustices of the world; aka something he used to be so damned good at. Everybody seems to want to be the next Carlin these days, but forgets that you actually have to be clever....

[MissKhriddleton]

I'm not automatically offended at the trans or handicap stuff, but yeah, it was just bad. Not at all funny. I watched Killing Them Softly just a few months ago and it holds up as one of my favorite standup specials ever. Shane Gillis's special is really good, but I might be late on that one.

[M-C-G]

I think Chappelle puts random words in a hat and then tried to make something funny. His last special was absolute gold and I get that it offended people but that was the point, to be offensive. I felt like this one he tried to rinse and repeat and it just wasn’t the same.

Anyway, I think pushing back on the cancel culture folks is time well spent and I applaud those that make an effort to do so.


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[MickeyDavis]

Pushing back is fine. At least do it with something original and actually funny. This one was a complete waste of time.

[DingleJerry]

I'm fine for sticking to offensive stuff and not listening to cancel bs, this is comedy, push the envelope. AndI didn't really find his last one offensive. I thought it was boring and not funny. Actually tell the jokes, don't just rant to me about how you should be allowed to tell the jokes and anyone that doesn't is just too stupid to understand your genius. Just do it, lets get on with some jokes you say you demand the right to do. Other people don't have the power he does, he has free reign and isn't going to be cancelled.

If you want good comedy and some commentary on the same topic Chappelle is going on about watch Ricky Gervais I think most recent but it might be second most recent one now. Considering he's not the self proclaimed best/smartest and greatest ever his was way better than Dave's. And it was actually funny and had jokes.

[ReasonablySober]

I don't think he's made a funny special in years. Like I literally can't think of the last funny thing he's done.

[M-C-G]

Chappelles last special was hilarious and I don’t think that is debatable. I think people have gotten too politicized and don’t want to laugh at something that goes against their ideology


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[MickeyDavis]

I didn't think his last one was funny either. Nothing to do with ideology (shrug). So of course it's debatable. Comedy of every kind is subjective, never objective.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Probably an ego thing but man are there a lot of recent examples of celebrities who get called out on one thing and then basically become obsessed with it. It's like dude everyone else has moved on, you're the only one who keeps bringing it up and playing the maytyr.

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[DingleJerry]

Chappelles last special was hilarious and I don’t think that is debatable. I think people have gotten too politicized and don’t want to laugh at something that goes against their ideology


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Of course its all subjective. And while of course there was funny moments I would by no means say "hilarious". The majority just wasn't not stand up comedy and joke telling. It was him ranting about politics and cancel culture with no jokes. Its not others being obsessed politics, he is the one obsessing about this stuff, not us. Half of it was better suited for a campaign rally or some bs 24 hour news show to fire up the base rather than comedy. He even spent a big chunk basically doing a "I can't hate trans people because I had trans friend once" bit. That whole section was terrible and just self righteous bs. You know, the same thing black people mock when some white guy says it.

Tell some actual jokes about the topic issue, don't just rant to me about how you should be allowed to tell them and we're not smart enough to understand his genius. Like I said, Gervais was on the same topics and actually had jokes.

And mainly, you've been going on about this now for like 4 years. You didn't get cancelled, you still sell out every show, millions watch your specials. Let's move onto some comedy. Your general points on how comedy should be allowed to happen were correct, thus why we're all still here: For some comedy, not ranting again about the same thing. Big pic, his ego has gotten in the way too much

[ReasonablySober]

Chappelles last special was hilarious and I don’t think that is debatable. I think people have gotten too politicized and don’t want to laugh at something that goes against their ideology


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My favorite comic of the last 20 years makes jokes that are only offensive. I don't care whether something is offensive or not. Chappelle IMO simply hasn't been funny since his show went off the air.

[engelmartin]

Watched a pretty good movie on Hulu called Dinner In America! Check it out if you’re looking for a pretty clever dark comedy with weird romance/music stuff thrown in there.

[MickeyDavis]

I don't watch much regular network stuff (not a conscious decision, just not much I currently like) but I like Abbott Elementary, looking forward to the new season.

[M-C-G]

Chappelles last special was hilarious and I don’t think that is debatable. I think people have gotten too politicized and don’t want to laugh at something that goes against their ideology


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My favorite comic of the last 20 years makes jokes that are only offensive. I don't care whether something is offensive or not. Chappelle IMO simply hasn't been funny since his show went off the air.

No worries but I think your political view is a major factor here. I stand by the idea political views are destroying comedy


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[ReasonablySober]

Chappelles last special was hilarious and I don’t think that is debatable. I think people have gotten too politicized and don’t want to laugh at something that goes against their ideology


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My favorite comic of the last 20 years makes jokes that are only offensive. I don't care whether something is offensive or not. Chappelle IMO simply hasn't been funny since his show went off the air.

No worries but I think your political view is a major factor here. I stand by the idea political views are destroying comedy


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I honestly don't know the political leanings of any comic I enjoy. A good joke is a good joke.

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Perfect jokes. I don't think Chappelle has that fastball. I just think he's an old, unfunny, dick.

[DingleJerry]

I'd say I generally agree with chappelles politics (or at least the ones he portrays publicly that I'm aware of), his points on cancel culture, and right to make jokes on the one specific topic he's obsessed with. Yet think the last one basically sucked and wasn't all that funny. And the rumbles on this one are right down the same ally, though I will get around to watching at some point.

Really liked the first specials back on Netflix (think he did 3 really quickly if I remember right), but since then he just hasn't been funny to me. Bunch of pretentious ego driven stuff and ranting rather than funny. Don't get me wrong, ranting can be funny. Bill Burr as an example as one of the best and he's a big ranter, but there has to be actual good jokes/stories, connections, callbacks, etc. Didn't get that from Daves last one, just a rant about how awesome he is and no one can tell him what to do and if they don't like they're just wrong and don't get his genius. Like I said before, his view on the freedom comedy should have is correct, now lets get back to comedy instead of him preaching