Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions

[BigO]

i saw the Herd again the other night. They're mighty bad.

Henry Ellenson had a great game.39 points, 12 or 13 rebounds. Terrence Davis had a bad game. Shot ok but turned the ball over a lot. I love their point guard James Akinjo, from Baylor, but neither he, nor anybody I've seen so far can help the Bucks. It was only one game, so maybe Davis was rusty.

Winslow never plays.

Unlike last year, when I identified Rollins early on a really good defender and saw improvement in Livingston, the Herd is not a consistent feeder program for the Bucks.

But I do enjoy sitting in the second row and watching college All Americans for one tenth the price of a Bucks ticket.

If you haven't been to a Herd game, it's a family atmosphere, but a little too much loud noise from the blabbing announcers for my old years.

Still, I'd recommend everyone go to a game.

[Ron Swanson]

Either him or Terence Davis deserves Marjon's roster spot. Honestly kinda over Umude and Liam Robbins as well. If those two still aren't showing anything in the G-league then give their two-way spots to Badji and someone else.

[Profound23]

Don't know if it was posted but:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/milwaukee-bucks/news/milwaukee-bucks-heavily-favored-trade-damian-lillards-ex-teammate/9d2e323e0ff69b36070c9634

BetOnline has the Bucks listed as the favorites to land CJ McCollum of the New Orleans Pelicans.

A trade proposal could feature Khris Middleton, who has an expiring contract after next season, and their 2031 first-round draft pick. Because the Bucks are a second-apron team, they cannot aggregate salaries in a trade, but they can remove the $1.6 million necessary to complete this trade in another move.

The Bucks have been rolling, so much so that their time in Las Vegas might've saved their season.

Giannis Antetokounmpo has climbed up the MVP power rankings as a result of his dominance, which has led the Bucks to a huge turnaround after an unprecedented poor start to the season.

The franchise better look to continue winning or else their two-time MVP could still request a trade at any given moment. Though the Bucks are telling teams a crazy message in regards to trade calls surrounding Antetokounmpo, a tanking Eastern Conference team is "waiting on" him to become available.

Landing McCollum could give the Bucks the scoring boost they so desperately need, especially with Middleton unable to reliably stay healthy.

McCollum thrives as a catch-and-shoot three-point shooter, but he can also create his own opportunities in the midrange and finish at the rim at a high rate.

Considering Lillard's relationship with McCollum, this trade could make sense. But trading away their 2031 first-round pick is risky, especially since this is the only first-round pick of the four they own that is solely in their possession.

I wouldn't hate it as long as Andre Jackson and AJ Green aren't forced to the bench because of it.

[Bernman]

Cut MarJon and get DSJ a spot with the real squad.

My guess is they're holding onto Marjon to potentially use as a contract to make up the #'s in a deal before the deadline. He's their 3rd most tradeable one, after Bobby & Pat. And they can use him to aggregate, if they take back 7+ million less in salary.

They make a 2-for 1 or 3 for 1-2 type deal including guys like Bobby, Pat, Marjon, Delon & maybe a pick. Get back an athletic big and/or big wing. And then have DSJr &/or Davis replace them on the roster as a handling/creating guard.

[Ron Swanson]

I'm certainly not opposed to moving Khris at this point, but giving up him AND the 2031 first for CJ McCollum is vomit inducing. No thank you.

[Bernman]

Don't know if it was posted but:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/milwaukee-bucks/news/milwaukee-bucks-heavily-favored-trade-damian-lillards-ex-teammate/9d2e323e0ff69b36070c9634

BetOnline has the Bucks listed as the favorites to land CJ McCollum of the New Orleans Pelicans.

A trade proposal could feature Khris Middleton, who has an expiring contract after next season, and their 2031 first-round draft pick. Because the Bucks are a second-apron team, they cannot aggregate salaries in a trade, but they can remove the $1.6 million necessary to complete this trade in another move.

The Bucks have been rolling, so much so that their time in Las Vegas might've saved their season.

Giannis Antetokounmpo has climbed up the MVP power rankings as a result of his dominance, which has led the Bucks to a huge turnaround after an unprecedented poor start to the season.

The franchise better look to continue winning or else their two-time MVP could still request a trade at any given moment. Though the Bucks are telling teams a crazy message in regards to trade calls surrounding Antetokounmpo, a tanking Eastern Conference team is "waiting on" him to become available.

Landing McCollum could give the Bucks the scoring boost they so desperately need, especially with Middleton unable to reliably stay healthy.

McCollum thrives as a catch-and-shoot three-point shooter, but he can also create his own opportunities in the midrange and finish at the rim at a high rate.

Considering Lillard's relationship with McCollum, this trade could make sense. But trading away their 2031 first-round pick is risky, especially since this is the only first-round pick of the four they own that is solely in their possession.

I wouldn't hate it as long as Andre Jackson and AJ Green aren't forced to the bench because of it.

SportingNews & BleacherReport are rags who come up with a lot of stupid rumors and ideas about trading our assets, which they grossly undervalue. We get to give up a high 1st, a champion, & a fuse piece for another small guard who can't defend? Yay.

[theFireBlanket]

Khris got a legit bug, while people everywhere are getting sick. MUST TRAE'D.

[raferfenix]

Per Jake Fischer:

Milwaukee has made calls to explore ways to add more of a lob threat to complement Brook Lopez, according to league sources, while the Bucks' incumbent center has generated no shortage of trade interest since last summer.

Interesting he's citing us seeking a lob threat to complement Brook while also saying Brook has generated no shortage of trade interest.

Something around Bobby or Connaughton/MarJon and a pick seems way more likely than a Brook trade. But with centers who can defend and shoot being at such a premium maybe there's a deal out there we'd do.

Either way, other than Robert Williams III, what other lob threats do we think Horst is making calls about?

Hoopshype has quotes of a few different parts from today's Marc Stein / Fischer piece about the market for centers for anyone looking for more context.

This part stood out to me too -- Looney sure isn't a lob threat, but maybe Trayce Jackson-Davis is someone we're looking at there:

After swiftly addressing its need for a secondary scorer behind Stephen Curry with Sunday’s acquisition of Dennis Schröder, Golden State is still evaluating its own center rotation, sources say. The Warriors have famously filled minutes with defensive savant Draymond Green at the five spot. And while Steve Kerr is known to hold great affinity for Kevon Looney, Golden State’s veteran center has garnered plenty of early interest from around the league, sources say, as the Warriors consider whether or not to add another piece to a rotation that also features standout sophomore Trayce Jackson-Davis. Before ceding the role back to Looney recently, Jackson-Davis started 18 games this season.

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/blazers-not-eager-to-trade-robert-williams/

[Bernman]

I think Brook will finish his career in Milwaukee. He has situational utility & his salary clears in the offseason to improve our apron/tax situation, while he could sign on the vet minimum then ride into the sunset. This has been a second home to him.

[Ron Swanson]

Looney's looking pretty close to cooked the last couple seasons. He's a big rebound sponge but that's pretty much it at this point. No rim protection, no spacing, can't switch, and has turned into an even bigger liability at the FT line. There are better and cheaper options out there.

I'm warming to the idea of rolling the dice on Timelord though. Another 3-team trade where Bobby gets flipped for a draft asset would probably be required, but he'd be an awesome pairing in theory with Dame. Spacing concerns are valid, but I think the force multiplying rim protection and lob gravity of a Giannis/Williams frontcourt would be worth it when you have 3 snipers around them with Dame, Khris, and one of either Trent or AJ.

[tydett]

Looney's looking pretty close to cooked the last couple seasons. He's a big rebound sponge but that's pretty much it at this point. No rim protection, no spacing, can't switch, and has turned into an even bigger liability at the FT line. There are better and cheaper options out there.

I'm warming to the idea of rolling the dice on Timelord though. Another 3-team trade where Bobby gets flipped for a draft asset would probably be required, but he'd be an awesome pairing in theory with Dame. Spacing concerns are valid, but I think the force multiplying rim protection and lob gravity of a Giannis/Williams frontcourt would be worth it when you have 3 snipers around them with Dame, Khris, and one of either Trent or AJ.

Esp. with Giannis' midrange becoming more well-incorporated into his game, Run-and-Dunk Man doesn't need to play with a center who has to vacate the paint.

My ideal is Valanciunas, but I don't think we have a way to make it work asset-wise or salary wise.

[emunney]

Don't know if it was posted but:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/milwaukee-bucks/news/milwaukee-bucks-heavily-favored-trade-damian-lillards-ex-teammate/9d2e323e0ff69b36070c9634

BetOnline has the Bucks listed as the favorites to land CJ McCollum of the New Orleans Pelicans.

A trade proposal could feature Khris Middleton, who has an expiring contract after next season, and their 2031 first-round draft pick. Because the Bucks are a second-apron team, they cannot aggregate salaries in a trade, but they can remove the $1.6 million necessary to complete this trade in another move.

The Bucks have been rolling, so much so that their time in Las Vegas might've saved their season.

Giannis Antetokounmpo has climbed up the MVP power rankings as a result of his dominance, which has led the Bucks to a huge turnaround after an unprecedented poor start to the season.

The franchise better look to continue winning or else their two-time MVP could still request a trade at any given moment. Though the Bucks are telling teams a crazy message in regards to trade calls surrounding Antetokounmpo, a tanking Eastern Conference team is "waiting on" him to become available.

Landing McCollum could give the Bucks the scoring boost they so desperately need, especially with Middleton unable to reliably stay healthy.

McCollum thrives as a catch-and-shoot three-point shooter, but he can also create his own opportunities in the midrange and finish at the rim at a high rate.

Considering Lillard's relationship with McCollum, this trade could make sense. But trading away their 2031 first-round pick is risky, especially since this is the only first-round pick of the four they own that is solely in their possession.

I wouldn't hate it as long as Andre Jackson and AJ Green aren't forced to the bench because of it.

I'll be damned if I'm trading Middleton and a pick for a player who's 4 months younger, 6 inches shorter, not as good, and only marginally healthier.

[BUCKnation]

Rolling back the years throwing out a Khris for CJ idea

[buckboy]

Why on earth would the Bucks want CJ McCollum? One of the last players in the league I'd target. We know it can't work.

[drdrG]

Per Jake Fischer:

Milwaukee has made calls to explore ways to add more of a lob threat to complement Brook Lopez, according to league sources, while the Bucks' incumbent center has generated no shortage of trade interest since last summer.

Interesting he's citing us seeking a lob threat to complement Brook while also saying Brook has generated no shortage of trade interest.

Something around Bobby or Connaughton/MarJon and a pick seems way more likely than a Brook trade. But with centers who can defend and shoot being at such a premium maybe there's a deal out there we'd do.

Either way, other than Robert Williams III, what other lob threats do we think Horst is making calls about?

Hoopshype has quotes of a few different parts from today's Marc Stein / Fischer piece about the market for centers for anyone looking for more context.

This part stood out to me too -- Looney sure isn't a lob threat, but maybe Trayce Jackson-Davis is someone we're looking at there:

After swiftly addressing its need for a secondary scorer behind Stephen Curry with Sunday’s acquisition of Dennis Schröder, Golden State is still evaluating its own center rotation, sources say. The Warriors have famously filled minutes with defensive savant Draymond Green at the five spot. And while Steve Kerr is known to hold great affinity for Kevon Looney, Golden State’s veteran center has garnered plenty of early interest from around the league, sources say, as the Warriors consider whether or not to add another piece to a rotation that also features standout sophomore Trayce Jackson-Davis. Before ceding the role back to Looney recently, Jackson-Davis started 18 games this season.

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/blazers-not-eager-to-trade-robert-williams/

First names that come to mind are Nick Richards or Mark Williams.

[j_hilge444]

i saw the Herd again the other night. They're mighty bad.

Henry Ellenson had a great game.39 points, 12 or 13 rebounds. Terrence Davis had a bad game. Shot ok but turned the ball over a lot. I love their point guard James Akinjo, from Baylor, but neither he, nor anybody I've seen so far can help the Bucks. It was only one game, so maybe Davis was rusty.

Winslow never plays.

Unlike last year, when I identified Rollins early on a really good defender and saw improvement in Livingston, the Herd is not a consistent feeder program for the Bucks.

But I do enjoy sitting in the second row and watching college All Americans for one tenth the price of a Bucks ticket.

If you haven't been to a Herd game, it's a family atmosphere, but a little too much loud noise from the blabbing announcers for my old years.

Still, I'd recommend everyone go to a game.

I recently moved to the area and went to the home opener. While you say family atmosphere, I say all out playground. Just kids running up and down the steps, kids running in the aisle...shocked a kid didn't run on the court. Maybe I just need to start sitting in the second row to avoid that.

[EasyE31]

I'm still on the trade Middleton bandwagon as he's the best combination of high salary + skillset a contender might actually want we have and represents the best opportunity for the Bucks to add real talent that we could keep long term. Plus, the team is playing pretty well without him anyways.

Bucks out: Middleton, Bobby, Pat, 2031 1st
Bucks in: Cam Johnson, DFS, Dayron Sharpe, Tari Eason

Rockets out: Dillon Brooks, Tari Eason, 20215 1st
Rockets in: Middelton

Nets out: Johnson, DFS, Sharpe
Nets in: Brooks, Portis, Pat C, Rockets 25 1st, Bucks 31 1st

Gets the Bucks under the 2nd apron and adds a ton of young athleticism and big wings.

[soxperry]

Downgrade from Khris to CJ AND give up our only available 1st?

Just laughably stupid

[ShootingtheJ]

Timelord and Banton in 1 deal makes sense for us.

[raferfenix]

Looney's looking pretty close to cooked the last couple seasons. He's a big rebound sponge but that's pretty much it at this point. No rim protection, no spacing, can't switch, and has turned into an even bigger liability at the FT line. There are better and cheaper options out there.

If Golden State has also come to this conclusion that could be the basis for a consolidation trade for Bobby.

Trayce Jackson-Davis + Lindy Watters III + Looney for Bobby works under the cap.

Send them a minimum guy via an exception. Waive or trade someone else to open another roster spot.

I know Lindy was getting clock there for a time. Not sure what his valuation would be to us or the Warriors post-Schroder.

Of course how the Bucks value Jackson-Davis is the crux. If he's a rim runner who can help now with potential to improve that's different than if he's a soft developmental project who can't shoot.

Looney coming here would be a hedge in this scenario, but alternatively, a multi-team deal could get the salaries to work if it just wouldn't make sense to have both.