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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#941 » by PG Graveyard » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:47 am

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The Bucks played at their 2nd fastest pace with Middleton on the floor, and play at their 3rd slowest pace with Dame on the floor (of players that actually play). Dames the slow one, running is over without Mids. The Bucks significantly outscored their opponents with Middleton on the floor, and continue to get outscored with Dame on the floor. Dame is losing player, always has been.


KM is a Wizard now. Go on their board and tell him how much faster and better he is than Poole.. let me know how that goes.

I want to hear about Kuzma now.


Kuzma is terrible, he won't be able to cover up for Dame. When this team goes down in flames in the playoffs, Dame will be dumped next.

Middleton will be rerouted to a contender today.


I’m still waiting for Mids to get rerouted. It’s ok to believe your eyes. Unfortunately he’s physically cooked. Love him but it is what it is. No way he could play playoff bball this year
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#942 » by tedbrogen » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:24 am

Midds is perfect for the Wiz. He can sit out the rest of the season so they can keep losing. Then he’s a big expiring contract to trade this offseason or next trade deadline.
Midds will be fine waiting until he is traded or bought out next season to play again.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#943 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:28 am

Trade deadline has passed. He can't be rerouted. Bought out? Maybe, but with that player option I don't see an incentive for him to go for that. Simmons is an expiring, it makes sense. Middleton will likely sit out or play very little. Exercise his option and be traded. We'll see.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#944 » by humanrefutation » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:22 am

I think Mids is going to bide his time, exercise his option, reach a buyout, and retire.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#945 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 10:53 am

humanrefutation wrote:I think Mids is going to bide his time, exercise his option, reach a buyout, and retire.


I think he’s going to play for the Wizards these next two months and see how it goes. I’m guessing he will have a couple big statistical nights because he will be in the ‘Kuzma’ role and be the only guy who can actually get his own shot off.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#946 » by aboveAverage » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:22 pm

humanrefutation wrote:I think Mids is going to bide his time, exercise his option, reach a buyout, and retire.

I also think that’s likely. I hope that he signs here on a vet minimum deal for his last season and gets the proper farewell year in Milwaukee that he deserves.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#947 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:46 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:I think Mids is going to bide his time, exercise his option, reach a buyout, and retire.


I think he’s going to play for the Wizards these next two months and see how it goes. I’m guessing he will have a couple big statistical nights because he will be in the ‘Kuzma’ role and be the only guy who can actually get his own shot off.


They'll let him sit out, and he'll finally get a normal offseason. Get fully recovered. He'll also escape our medical team, the worst part of our poorly run organization
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#948 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:07 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:I think Mids is going to bide his time, exercise his option, reach a buyout, and retire.


I think he’s going to play for the Wizards these next two months and see how it goes. I’m guessing he will have a couple big statistical nights because he will be in the ‘Kuzma’ role and be the only guy who can actually get his own shot off.


They'll let him sit out, and he'll finally get a normal offseason. Get fully recovered. He'll also escape our medical team, the worst part of our poorly run organization


Have we really reached these critical levels of Khris apologism? His body's cooked dude. It'll only become more evident with time, and Suki and Co. are still widely considered to be one of the best in the business.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#949 » by PG Graveyard » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:53 pm

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I think he’s going to play for the Wizards these next two months and see how it goes. I’m guessing he will have a couple big statistical nights because he will be in the ‘Kuzma’ role and be the only guy who can actually get his own shot off.


They'll let him sit out, and he'll finally get a normal offseason. Get fully recovered. He'll also escape our medical team, the worst part of our poorly run organization


Have we really reached these critical levels of Khris apologism? His body's cooked dude. It'll only become more evident with time, and Suki and Co. are still widely considered to be one of the best in the business.


Yeah that was a bad take. We have a great medical team. It’s not their fault Mids body fell apart.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#950 » by Bernman » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:51 pm

On paper, the best fit for Kuzma is him at the 4, Giannis at the 5, when he can match-up (v. multiple opponents atop the east). Doc's less inclined to do it, & it hasn't worked lately. But Giannis has copped to being spent.

At the 3, there are iffy stats compared to the 4, most seasons, for Kuz. + he's gotten thicker. So it's suspect how he projects. But maybe he could guard 4's & Giannis 3's in that setup. And you need good d boaders in the lineup if you're going to play Brook. 7.4 d boards his 1st season w/ DC intrigues. He could post career highs here, the same way w/ shooting playing off Giannis & Dame.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#951 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:54 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:I think Mids is going to bide his time, exercise his option, reach a buyout, and retire.


I think he’s going to play for the Wizards these next two months and see how it goes. I’m guessing he will have a couple big statistical nights because he will be in the ‘Kuzma’ role and be the only guy who can actually get his own shot off.


They'll let him sit out, and he'll finally get a normal offseason. Get fully recovered. He'll also escape our medical team, the worst part of our poorly run organization


its a reach but certainly possible youre right about sitting out and taking a year off to get right. playing for the wizards or any team where the games dont matter affords one that oppurtunity. but what that has to do with our situation i dont know. we have allowed him to basically tank each of the last two seasons with his unavailability. it was his job to give giannis and dame a break every once an effing while during the season too you know.

putting this on the medical team isnt even a reach tho. thats just nuts.

hopefully hes not done. im really gonna root for him and all of a sudden wizards games will be much watch tv if hes giving it a go. i love the guy. but he wasnt right. and he hadnt been right in a really long time after alot of the rehab time off the court that other guys get to get back right. how many years exactly does a player need before you examine the situation and refuse to be in denial anymore
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#952 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:58 pm

i want to know if kuzma/giannis/portis can all play at once. thats what i want to know. thats a big fricking lineup thats somewhat mobile in a switching/zone scheme. call giannis the 3 or whoever i just want to see that for a minute before i write it off
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#953 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:10 pm

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Have we really reached these critical levels of Khris apologism? His body's cooked dude. It'll only become more evident with time, and Suki and Co. are still widely considered to be one of the best in the business.


Yes. I think Suki and Troy have done wonders for this team the past ten years. They've kept guys like Lopez going and got Jabari back from two ACL's. Far better than what we had in the Kohl years.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#954 » by -Jragon- » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:12 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i want to know if kuzma/giannis/portis can all play at once. thats what i want to know. thats a big fricking lineup thats somewhat mobile in a switching/zone scheme. call giannis the 3 or whoever i just want to see that for a minute before i write it off


the turbo lineup would be
Dame
GTJ
Kuz
GA
Sims

take all the cows out sometimes and fly... make Dame and GTJ shoot all the 3s
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#955 » by KidA24 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:31 pm

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Have we really reached these critical levels of Khris apologism? His body's cooked dude. It'll only become more evident with time, and Suki and Co. are still widely considered to be one of the best in the business.


Yes. I think Suki and Troy have done wonders for this team the past ten years. They've kept guys like Lopez going and got Jabari back from two ACL's. Far better than what we had in the Kohl years.


Let's be fair, that's a really low bar.

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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#956 » by Bernman » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:06 pm

Bucks' Moves/Non-Moves influenced by ankle problems:

- Ray Allen for Gary Payton
- Andrew Bogut for Stephen Curry
- Khris Middleton/AJ Johnson for Kyle Kuzma....
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#957 » by -Jragon- » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:11 pm

Bernman wrote:Bucks' Moves/Non-Moves influenced by ankle problems:

- Ray Allen for Gary Payton
- Andrew Bogut for Stephen Curry
- Khris Middleton/AJ Johnson for Kyle Kuzma....



For my money, Khris hasn't looked right physically as far as running, jumping and any lateral movement since his hamstring ripped off his leg. We just kept signing him so he can hobble around. Still glad we got him a ring and he was a big part of it but his physical and injury limitations have been there for 9 years.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#958 » by BUCKnation » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:41 pm

Feel for middleton in that almost all his injuries have been freak events, but he just can’t recover/last
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#959 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:42 pm

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I think he’s going to play for the Wizards these next two months and see how it goes. I’m guessing he will have a couple big statistical nights because he will be in the ‘Kuzma’ role and be the only guy who can actually get his own shot off.


They'll let him sit out, and he'll finally get a normal offseason. Get fully recovered. He'll also escape our medical team, the worst part of our poorly run organization


Have we really reached these critical levels of Khris apologism? His body's cooked dude. It'll only become more evident with time, and Suki and Co. are still widely considered to be one of the best in the business.


Yeah, letting Giannis and Dame play through injuries just before the playoffs last year was a great decision. Turned out awesome.

What have they done to be considered the best in the business? You were told they're good, and you believed it. Have you seen any results of them actually being good? No, you have not
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#960 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:44 pm

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Have we really reached these critical levels of Khris apologism? His body's cooked dude. It'll only become more evident with time, and Suki and Co. are still widely considered to be one of the best in the business.


Yes. I think Suki and Troy have done wonders for this team the past ten years. They've kept guys like Lopez going and got Jabari back from two ACL's. Far better than what we had in the Kohl years.


They were in charge of Jabari's rehab, and they did such a good job he blew out out again. How is this possibly viewed as a positive?

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