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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#961 » by All The Bucks » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:42 am

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All The Bucks wrote:When the Bucks win the NBA Championship this year, then thankfully all this talk about not having a good enough second banana can go away for awhile. You don't ever hear me complaining because I already know how this season ends.

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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#962 » by All The Bucks » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:45 am

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All The Bucks wrote:When the Bucks win the NBA Championship this year, then thankfully all this talk about not having a good enough second banana can go away for awhile. You don't ever hear me complaining because I already know how this season ends.


The rationalization for us winning will be that somebody else performed on the level of a true #2 for the playoffs. "See, we didn't win with Khris as our 2nd best player, player x eclipsed him." And I will be FINE WITH THAT.


Or option A - Khris is the Bucks clear second best player throughout the playoffs, right on through win #4 in the Finals.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#963 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:58 am

SkilesTheLimit wrote:Would you trade a 24 year old Giannis for 20 year old Luka Doncic?


Certainly not. Doncic is really special and not in the same stratosphere as Giannis.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#964 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:39 pm

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Bernman wrote:Sadly, signing brothers of existing key players to keep them happy tethers us to them at least until the end of the season, and then there's still an issue not bringing them back if they weren't free agents at minimum. It's a short-sighted benefit.

When it comes to Robin, that deal looked favorable on paper because of who his brother was. But he hasn't fit the system because of how poor of a 3-pt shooter he is but has still tried to force it. That, and he's struggled to get clean looks in the post. He isn't running the floor either.


He’s also not a deterrent at the rim whatsoever, despite always looking like he’s trying really hard. Bud knows, it’s why he only played 3 minutes last night.


Yeah, the problem isn't that he doesn't fit the system, it's that he's not good at anything.
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Post#965 » by leroyjw10 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:11 pm

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Bernman wrote:Sadly, signing brothers of existing key players to keep them happy tethers us to them at least until the end of the season, and then there's still an issue not bringing them back if they weren't free agents at minimum. It's a short-sighted benefit.

When it comes to Robin, that deal looked favorable on paper because of who his brother was. But he hasn't fit the system because of how poor of a 3-pt shooter he is but has still tried to force it. That, and he's struggled to get clean looks in the post. He isn't running the floor either.


He’s also not a deterrent at the rim whatsoever, despite always looking like he’s trying really hard. Bud knows, it’s why he only played 3 minutes last night.


Yeah, the problem isn't that he doesn't fit the system, it's that he's not good at anything.


No defending Robin (Team Dragan!), but pretty sure he only played 3 minutes last night because of matchups. If Gobert plays, Robin gets a lot more minutes. Chasing Jeff Green around the perimeter is not ideal for Robin.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#966 » by kid idioteque » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:03 pm

SkilesTheLimit wrote:Would you trade a 24 year old Giannis for 20 year old Luka Doncic?


Only if I had reason to believe Giannis was going to leave. Otherwise, not a chance in hell.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#967 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:24 pm

Parker has feelings and thoughts.

"It's real special, man, how they were able to build this building," Parker told ESPN. "I haven't played here but just seeing like the growth of the city, I really like the way that it's developing.

"It's just so sad that I'm not able to share it with them and that they moved on, but that's fine, that's business. But I do have like a little homesickness from being here. I just miss being here."

Parker has a player option for 20-21 with the Hawks. Parker wouldn't rule out a return to the Bucks in the future.

"Never. I would never rule out a possible return here," Parker told ESPN. "I would never do that. It's just so sad how it ended and I wish I could've stayed."
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#968 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:41 pm

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emunney wrote:
All The Bucks wrote:When the Bucks win the NBA Championship this year, then thankfully all this talk about not having a good enough second banana can go away for awhile. You don't ever hear me complaining because I already know how this season ends.


The rationalization for us winning will be that somebody else performed on the level of a true #2 for the playoffs. "See, we didn't win with Khris as our 2nd best player, player x eclipsed him." And I will be FINE WITH THAT.


Or option A - Khris is the Bucks clear second best player throughout the playoffs, right on through win #4 in the Finals.


I would love to have a exercise with anybody on the board. we go back for all 4 series of every nba champion and they make a list of the #1s and #2s on those team that have never had a bad series in any given championship year and I make a list the guys that won those championships but had a bad series during the runup. like for example has klay Thompson or kyrie irving or paul pierce or hell crissakes even kobe Bryant ever had a **** series? if they have is that then the new definition of not being a true #1 or #2?

I wonder whose list would be longer if we made some lists like that.

that all being said. khris was on absolute fire for 3 series in a row over two years before the Toronto series. if we get 3 out of 4 from here on out I think that would be just fine with me.
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Post#969 » by RiotPunch » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:56 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Parker has feelings and thoughts.

"It's real special, man, how they were able to build this building," Parker told ESPN. "I haven't played here but just seeing like the growth of the city, I really like the way that it's developing.

"It's just so sad that I'm not able to share it with them and that they moved on, but that's fine, that's business. But I do have like a little homesickness from being here. I just miss being here."

Parker has a player option for 20-21 with the Hawks. Parker wouldn't rule out a return to the Bucks in the future.

"Never. I would never rule out a possible return here," Parker told ESPN. "I would never do that. It's just so sad how it ended and I wish I could've stayed."

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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#970 » by TroyD92 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:12 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:Parker has feelings and thoughts.

"It's real special, man, how they were able to build this building," Parker told ESPN. "I haven't played here but just seeing like the growth of the city, I really like the way that it's developing.

"It's just so sad that I'm not able to share it with them and that they moved on, but that's fine, that's business. But I do have like a little homesickness from being here. I just miss being here."

Parker has a player option for 20-21 with the Hawks. Parker wouldn't rule out a return to the Bucks in the future.

"Never. I would never rule out a possible return here," Parker told ESPN. "I would never do that. It's just so sad how it ended and I wish I could've stayed."

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Post#971 » by TroyD92 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:15 pm

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emunney wrote:
The rationalization for us winning will be that somebody else performed on the level of a true #2 for the playoffs. "See, we didn't win with Khris as our 2nd best player, player x eclipsed him." And I will be FINE WITH THAT.


Or option A - Khris is the Bucks clear second best player throughout the playoffs, right on through win #4 in the Finals.


I would love to have a exercise with anybody on the board. we go back for all 4 series of every nba champion and they make a list of the #1s and #2s on those team that have never had a bad series in any given championship year and I make a list the guys that won those championships but had a bad series during the runup. like for example has klay Thompson or kyrie irving or paul pierce or hell crissakes even kobe Bryant ever had a **** series? if they have is that then the new definition of not being a true #1 or #2?

I wonder whose list would be longer if we made some lists like that.

that all being said. khris was on absolute fire for 3 series in a row over two years before the Toronto series. if we get 3 out of 4 from here on out I think that would be just fine with me.


I hope this as well, but I don’t think that Khris is currently with us.
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Post#972 » by RiotPunch » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:17 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:Parker has feelings and thoughts.


:(



Parker is a really good guy. Hope he gets all the success he deserves

Met him a couple of times when I still lived in MKE, was super friendly and appreciative both times. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for him, a spot arguably softer than his defense.
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Post#973 » by bucksfansince88 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:19 pm

wish JP had some good self realization and just did what he needed to do to stick around, Bud couldve gotten more out of him
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Post#974 » by TroyD92 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:23 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:wish JP had some good self realization and just did what he needed to do to stick around, Bud couldve gotten more out of him



It seems like he has it now. I think you’re asking too much of someone to expect them to completely change their life’s goals while dealing with career threatening injuries. The year in Chicago seemed to do him well as far as perspective.
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Post#975 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:34 pm

I wish him all the best but unless he wants to take the room exception and come off the bench, then no thanks. It was time to move on.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#976 » by PG Graveyard » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:37 pm

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Parker is a really good guy. Hope he gets all the success he deserves

Met him a couple of times when I still lived in MKE, was super friendly and appreciative both times. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for him, a spot arguably softer than his defense.


I have always been a fan as well. Maybe something could work out and he could come back. Class act all around and wish him the best. To come back like he has from 2 ACL tears and having to deal with Jason Kidd/Jim Boylan/Prunty along the way had to have been difficult. I do think the Atlanta situation is a good spot for him this year to develop.
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Post#977 » by midranger » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:53 pm

Not to get all “letter conspiracy” here, but even that statement about the bucks is weird. Not sure the context or follow up, but if you were a current teammate and he’s talking about missing this other team and how he wished he was still there, it might be a bit upsetting.
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Post#978 » by drone3 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:23 am

Jabari is a good guy really wanted to keep him, but he wants to start and get paid. Can't see it happening.

I'm always open to a guy like Jabari, Melo or Beas as long as they buy in to Bud ball at the right price.
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Post#979 » by bucksfansince88 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:40 am

How do we get Dinwiddie
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#980 » by Chuck Diesel » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:11 pm

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He’s also not a deterrent at the rim whatsoever, despite always looking like he’s trying really hard. Bud knows, it’s why he only played 3 minutes last night.


Yeah, the problem isn't that he doesn't fit the system, it's that he's not good at anything.


No defending Robin (Team Dragan!), but pretty sure he only played 3 minutes last night because of matchups. If Gobert plays, Robin gets a lot more minutes. Chasing Jeff Green around the perimeter is not ideal for Robin.


Tony Bradley played 23 minutes. Surely Robin could’ve been out there for more than three.

The exasperated look on Giannis’s face after Robin picked up that last egregious offensive foul was great. “Get this dude off the court.”

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