It's Dame Time!

[ReasonablySober]

Damn woj said Horst didn't even tell Giannis about the trade beforehand. That's wild

Maybe Giannis told Horst about it.

Woj said Horst didn't want to put Giannis into a position where he had to sign off on a Jrue trade because of how loved Jrue was in the locker room

Build Horst a statue.

[BUCKnation]

A big difference between Jrue and Dame, and the way I'm explaining it to those who are questioning the defensive impact, is that last Miami series. Jrue was guarding Jimmy on most of those possessions and I'm not sure he fared much better than Dame would have 1 to 1. Jimmy was still getting 50 either way. The difference is that those late game offensive collapses in games 4 and 5 likely don't happen with Dame.

Wes would've been on Jimmy if Jrue didn't force him off. Jrue only commands that matchup because of reputation. Dame isn't guarding Jimmy unless there's a switch.

Obviously, I'm just saying that the defensive difference is smaller than the offensive difference, in a not so real world example

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

A big difference between Jrue and Dame, and the way I'm explaining it to those who are questioning the defensive impact, is that last Miami series. Jrue was guarding Jimmy on most of those possessions and I'm not sure he fared much better than Dame would have 1 to 1. Jimmy was still getting 50 either way. The difference is that those late game offensive collapses in games 4 and 5 likely don't happen with Dame.

56*

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/202304240MIA.html
Like the 56 points isn't even what killed us. It was scoring our 98th point at 8:56 and not scoring 103rd point until 3:03. We just can't have a 6 minute scoring draught. Dame would've hit 3 killer 3s in that period.

[theFireBlanket]

A big difference between Jrue and Dame, and the way I'm explaining it to those who are questioning the defensive impact, is that last Miami series. Jrue was guarding Jimmy on most of those possessions and I'm not sure he fared much better than Dame would have 1 to 1. Jimmy was still getting 50 either way. The difference is that those late game offensive collapses in games 4 and 5 likely don't happen with Dame.

Wes would've been on Jimmy if Jrue didn't force him off. Jrue only commands that matchup because of reputation. Dame isn't guarding Jimmy unless there's a switch.

Obviously, I'm just saying that the defensive difference is smaller than the offensive difference, in a not so real world example

It might be smaller but Jrue's defensive impact can be otherworldly. He wasn't on top of it in that series, I was livid that he couldn't accept deferring Jimmy to the guys who know him.

Overall Dame has better value but we're taking a hit.

[BUCKnation]

A big difference between Jrue and Dame, and the way I'm explaining it to those who are questioning the defensive impact, is that last Miami series. Jrue was guarding Jimmy on most of those possessions and I'm not sure he fared much better than Dame would have 1 to 1. Jimmy was still getting 50 either way. The difference is that those late game offensive collapses in games 4 and 5 likely don't happen with Dame.

56*

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/202304240MIA.html
Like the 56 points isn't even what killed us. It was scoring our 98th point at 8:56 and not scoring 103rd point until 3:03. We just can't have a 6 minute scoring draught. Dame would've hit 3 killer 3s in that period.

That's exactly my point. Dame and the influence he provides should put an end to a lot of these draughts we suffered through

[mcfromage]

I haven't seen any news of a Giannis reaction. Nothing on social media. No quotes. Did I miss it? Hope he's feeling amped, but also I'm sure - if indeed this came as a surprise - he'll be bummed that Jrue is heading out...

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

i wonder if bled has stayed in shape

[theFireBlanket]

A big difference between Jrue and Dame, and the way I'm explaining it to those who are questioning the defensive impact, is that last Miami series. Jrue was guarding Jimmy on most of those possessions and I'm not sure he fared much better than Dame would have 1 to 1. Jimmy was still getting 50 either way. The difference is that those late game offensive collapses in games 4 and 5 likely don't happen with Dame.

56*

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/202304240MIA.html
Like the 56 points isn't even what killed us. It was scoring our 98th point at 8:56 and not scoring 103rd point until 3:03. We just can't have a 6 minute scoring draught. Dame would've hit 3 killer 3s in that period.

That's exactly my point. Dame and the influence he provides should put an end to a lot of these draughts we suffered through

But do we also give up more baskets? Khris & whoever plugs in next to Dame are going to have to step up.

[DingleJerry]

A big difference between Jrue and Dame, and the way I'm explaining it to those who are questioning the defensive impact, is that last Miami series. Jrue was guarding Jimmy on most of those possessions and I'm not sure he fared much better than Dame would have 1 to 1. Jimmy was still getting 50 either way. The difference is that those late game offensive collapses in games 4 and 5 likely don't happen with Dame.

56*

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/202304240MIA.html
Like the 56 points isn't even what killed us. It was scoring our 98th point at 8:56 and not scoring 103rd point until 3:03. We just can't have a 6 minute scoring draught. Dame would've hit 3 killer 3s in that period.

That's exactly my point. Dame and the influence he provides should put an end to a lot of these draughts we suffered through

I also hope with the reduction in usage/ballhandling for Giannis it should reduce his charges. Both for not having fouls in games but injury risk too. I first thought of this in some discussion on here regarding Giannis' D being a focus again and to the 'wing stopper' type like on a Jimmy/Tatum. An issue his whole career is putting him on guys like that exposes him to fouls and when he's getting 2-3 charges called on him in the playoffs you have to reduce his exposure on D

[ABucksFan]

Toooo hyped watching Dame go nuts this year. A PG who can actually get a bucket and trade shotsss. What a time to be alivee. I mean yes Khris could trade shots with people, but Dame i will have the utmost confidence in

[JimmyTheKid]

Damn woj said Horst didn't even tell Giannis about the trade beforehand. That's wild

Maybe Giannis told Horst about it.

[JimmyTheKid]

Maybe Giannis told Horst about it.

Woj said Horst didn't want to put Giannis into a position where he had to sign off on a Jrue trade because of how loved Jrue was in the locker room

Build Horst a statue.

Why not. Horst straddling a rocket ship.

[FrieAaron]

i wonder if bled has stayed in shape

He was arrested for domestic violence last year, doubt they want him near this team at this point.

[humanrefutation]

Read on Twitter

I don't believe that they didn't consult Giannis, but I think it's smart to put it out there that they didn't.

[ABucksFan]

Has Jrue said anything yet?

[humanrefutation]

Has Jrue said anything yet?

Posted a thank you to Milwaukee on his IG.

[tedbrogen]

Any regrets on not having Bud back knowing this move in hindsight? Though maybe Stotts was a low-key move to get Dame on-board.

Zero ragrets. Griffin brings more defensive schemes to the table than Bud would have and that's more important than Bud's guaranteed 50 win regular season system and offensive spacing when the offense now is super easy. PnR with combos of Dame/Giannis/Midds/Brook. Easy buckets.

[tedbrogen]

Damn woj said Horst didn't even tell Giannis about the trade beforehand. That's wild

Leaked as cover that Horst and Giannis conspired again for another "I might leave" comment to make future picks seem more valuable than they are.

[tedbrogen]

A big difference between Jrue and Dame, and the way I'm explaining it to those who are questioning the defensive impact, is that last Miami series. Jrue was guarding Jimmy on most of those possessions and I'm not sure he fared much better than Dame would have 1 to 1. Jimmy was still getting 50 either way. The difference is that those late game offensive collapses in games 4 and 5 likely don't happen with Dame.

56*

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/202304240MIA.html
Like the 56 points isn't even what killed us. It was scoring our 98th point at 8:56 and not scoring 103rd point until 3:03. We just can't have a 6 minute scoring draught. Dame would've hit 3 killer 3s in that period.

Yep. 5 points in almost 6 minutes in a playoff game is an absolute collapse offensively. There were plays in there were Lowry literally took the ball out of Jrue's hands. That's probably not happening with Dame.

[BucksFanSD]

Giannis isn't going to admit to agreeing to trade Jrue. Why should he?