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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#981 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 3:25 am

Siefer wrote:Jeff Teague is looking very solid. He's averaging 18/9/3 on 42%, and he's getting to the line over 7 times a game. You'd like to see better three-point and free-throw shooting, but that's pretty good stuff overall. It looks like he's taking another moderate leap, and if he keeps playing this way, you can mark it as another botched move/missed opportunity by Hammond and friends.


I don't think many here would have balked if we had just offered him $10mm a year, which would have made Danny Ferry think twice about matching.

The difference would have been the contracts of Delfino and Ridnour, neither of whom we need. Or Caron's contract.
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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#982 » by ampd » Fri Nov 8, 2013 3:44 am

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Siefer wrote:Jeff Teague is looking very solid. He's averaging 18/9/3 on 42%, and he's getting to the line over 7 times a game. You'd like to see better three-point and free-throw shooting, but that's pretty good stuff overall. It looks like he's taking another moderate leap, and if he keeps playing this way, you can mark it as another botched move/missed opportunity by Hammond and friends.


I don't think many here would have balked if we had just offered him $10mm a year, which would have made Danny Ferry think twice about matching.

The difference would have been the contracts of Delfino and Ridnour, neither of whom we need. Or Caron's contract.


The cba is the way it is so that teams can keep their players and other teams are essentially forced to overpay. We offered a completely vanilla deal to Teague that the Hawks would only decline to match if they just didn't want him back period.

If he was our guy, and I'm not entirely sure he should have been, we needed to offer him 10 or 11 million and really taken our shot. Why we would cheap out on a legit starter but overspend on backup quality players on multi year deals is baffling. The Delfino contract especially is insane considering we knew about his injury and are loaded with mediocre wing players as well as giannis and the only purpose of signing him is to make sure Middleton and giannis don't see the floor.

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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#983 » by Wooderson » Fri Nov 8, 2013 3:45 am

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Siefer wrote:Jeff Teague is looking very solid. He's averaging 18/9/3 on 42%, and he's getting to the line over 7 times a game. You'd like to see better three-point and free-throw shooting, but that's pretty good stuff overall. It looks like he's taking another moderate leap, and if he keeps playing this way, you can mark it as another botched move/missed opportunity by Hammond and friends.


I don't think many here would have balked if we had just offered him $10mm a year, which would have made Danny Ferry think twice about matching.

The difference would have been the contracts of Delfino and Ridnour, neither of whom we need. Or Caron's contract.


Yup, it's hilarious that Hammond only offered 8 given those other contracts, especially Delfino. That being said, I think ATL matches either way. It's hard to know what Ferry is/was thinking, but I think the Milsap signing is evidence that they want to remain competitive. Still no reason not to make Ferry pay at least 10 mil.
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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#984 » by KingCammo » Fri Nov 8, 2013 7:08 am

lol Dwight.
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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#985 » by JoeHova » Fri Nov 8, 2013 7:18 am

jakecronus8 wrote:A future conditional second is fine for Udoh. He is worthless.


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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#986 » by paul » Fri Nov 8, 2013 7:47 am

KingCammo wrote:lol Dwight.


So much this.
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Post#987 » by AussieBuck » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:45 am

JoeHova wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:A future conditional second is fine for Udoh. He is worthless.


Agreed.

In a world where defense doesn't exist you guys aren't spectacularly wrong, so there's that I guess.
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Post#988 » by Chapter29 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 12:08 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:Udoh for Hardaway JR would be an interesting deal for us. I'd do it fast and I'm not a huge fan of Hardaway.


I like Hardaway as a combo guard off the bench. If we got one of the PGs in the lottery, a 2nd unit of Wolters/Hardaway/Middleton/Henson/Zaza could do some real damage.


We have quite a few combo guards already. Why do we need another?

I honestly wonder if we found our PG of the future in Wolters. Steady, runs the team well, passes well and with an outstanding assist to TO ratio. I know he isn't a star type player, but I really like him. Very much in that Ridnour.....hopefully Nash mold.

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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#989 » by Thunder Muscle » Fri Nov 8, 2013 1:21 pm

Dwight Howard, good player but I just don't think its going to happen with that guy. The pure dominance that everyone expects that is. He doesn't seem to have that next alpha male, take over the game level. We'll see.

As for the Bucks stuff, I'd probably do a Udoh of Hardaway Jr deal. He looks like he may be able to play and we have a surplus of bigs. I actually didn't think Udoh looked that bad the other night though and by all accounts had a strong training camp before the injury.

I wonder what Wolters' ceiling will be. At the very least I think he's showing he'll stick around the league for a little bit. I'd like Knight back soon so we can start getting a read on him, good or bad.
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Re: ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again 

Post#990 » by runasone » Fri Nov 8, 2013 3:05 pm

Chapter29 wrote:
runasone wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Udoh for Hardaway JR would be an interesting deal for us. I'd do it fast and I'm not a huge fan of Hardaway.


I like Hardaway as a combo guard off the bench. If we got one of the PGs in the lottery, a 2nd unit of Wolters/Hardaway/Middleton/Henson/Zaza could do some real damage.


We have quite a few combo guards already. Why do we need another?


We have Knight and Neal, neither of whom are very good. I like Hardaway better than either of them, especially a few years down the road.
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Post#991 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 3:19 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
JoeHova wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:A future conditional second is fine for Udoh. He is worthless.


Agreed.

In a world where defense doesn't exist you guys aren't spectacularly wrong, so there's that I guess.

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Post#992 » by stellation » Fri Nov 8, 2013 8:41 pm

KingCammo wrote:lol Dwight.

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Taking those factors into consideration, it was still AWESOME!
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Post#993 » by AussieBuck » Sat Nov 9, 2013 2:36 am

Afflolo went for and made the game tying three with 4 seconds left. Problem was he had both feet over the line. :lol:
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Post#994 » by paul » Sat Nov 9, 2013 2:41 am

Anyone watching Warriors Spurs just catch the exchange between Bogut and Lee with about 40 seconds to go in first half? Parker missed a FT which came down on Bogut's side and Lee did what he does and jumped all the way across from the other side of the key and risked losing it to steal it from Bogut, they were the only two going for it. My feed wasn't great but looked like Bogut kind of threw his hands up and then they exchanged words. I can imagine what was said lol.
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Post#995 » by SupremeHustle » Sat Nov 9, 2013 2:47 am

Bradley Beal. I'd trade a '14 pick for him.
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Post#996 » by AussieBuck » Sat Nov 9, 2013 2:50 am

Monta 6-18
Dirk 4-8

Poor Dirk. Also Jennings is 5-14. :D
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Post#997 » by emunney » Sat Nov 9, 2013 3:03 am

Presti haters have to love the play of Lamb and Adams so far. Unfair that such a huge mistake is going to work out so well for them.
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Post#998 » by blazza18 » Sat Nov 9, 2013 3:08 am

GS will find a way not to win this game.
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Post#999 » by Wooderson » Sat Nov 9, 2013 3:17 am

Kevin Love just dominated the last two minutes. Drilled a 3 to put them up 6. Forced Monta into a miss at the rim and grabbed the rebound. Then he kept alive a Kevin Martin miss by tipping it off the backboard and then subsequently nailed a midrange jumper to seal the victory.

Watched a good chunk of that game and Monta got thoroughly outplayed by KMart.
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Post#1000 » by SupremeHustle » Sat Nov 9, 2013 3:18 am

Anthony Davis. I'd trade a '14 and '15 for him.
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