Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[blazza18]

Sign the younger guy with plenty more upside, who is yet to hit his peak, while also putting up comparable numbers to the older guy, who is currently in his peak right now. Bledsoe makes more sense now and for the future. It's not rocket science. I don't like Dragic, but I'd be take the younger player 10/10.

[Oscar71]

Compared to the dough being forked over by other clubs for 'win-now' has-beens, if the Bucks can land one of these younger FA's, I'm OK with that.....

[PackBuckBrew]

Vasquez is the only one of the 3 I am not interested in. Bledsoe would be really cool running the point with Giannis and Parker. I would be ok with Lin cause we would get something in return for taking him, plus he could be a big trade chip next year when he has an expiring contract.

Knight is not a PG and I do not want to just give Wolters the starting job. So if these 3 do not happen I really hope we bring someone in to compete for the starting job.

[White+Purple]

What if you just trade him when he's 30? If you have the opportunity to get a legit all-star for cap space, you always do that. Add value to the roster, it's a no-brainer. You don't have to keep him forever.

That's an underrated aspect of acquiring Bledsoe - if he pans out you have another asset, regardless of whether Giannis and Jabari do too.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

for the guys who don't want Bledsoe......

should we pass on any great young player within a year of their first big contract too? should we not try and improve the roster by trade using this parameter? was it a good thing we didn't get Bledsoe in trade from LAC last year?

anybody who was upset we didn't give up assets in a trade for Bledsoe last year, and now don't want him for free in FA this year.... you make no sense. Bledsoe was always going to get paid. I thought the point was that we would be the ones to pay him.

For the next few years we should avoid any "Great" young player who is more than 3 years older than Parker and Giannis. The only exceptions are for Lebron, Durant, and Anthony Davis.

so im sure you were happy as a lark we lost out on Bledsoe in the redick s/t right? can you link me to where you weighed in with that discussion espousing the benefits of passing up on him so we wouldn't have to pay him later?

your rules about how we must grow and improve are absurd. its hard enough to grow thru the draft that you would rule out all other options for improvement in order to supposedly increase our odds for it.

[No-Man]

Get Lin for capspace, plus that Pelicans pick, will be a late lotto pick next year.
Tank all the way to get Manny Mudiay, and let Kidd coach him up, pick another guy, likely a big, is a deep big class something good will be there, in the late lotto with the Pelicans pick and let Lin go in the FA.

That's the masterplan.

Mudiay-Knight-Wolters
Middleton
Parker-Antetokounmpo
Henson
Sanders-Raduljica

I couldn't care less about the rest, trade them if possible, for something good long term, if not let them expire.

[WRau1]

Bledsoe could be a good fit on this team but it seems like everything has to be absolutely right. Bledsoe, after getting a max contract has to keep up and improve his level of play. Sanders has to return to 2012-2013 form. Giannis has to dramatically improve, Parker has to be at least Big Dog level. So many IFs. That's why I'm not in favor of handing out a max contract when there are so many unknowns. If we do offer him the max, I hope it's just a straight offer sheet. I don't want to work out a S&T, I don't want to loose assets for the right to hand out a max contract to player based almost entirely on upside.

[MrPerfect1]

for the guys who don't want Bledsoe......

should we pass on any great young player within a year of their first big contract too? should we not try and improve the roster by trade using this parameter? was it a good thing we didn't get Bledsoe in trade from LAC last year?

anybody who was upset we didn't give up assets in a trade for Bledsoe last year, and now don't want him for free in FA this year.... you make no sense. Bledsoe was always going to get paid. I thought the point was that we would be the ones to pay him.

For the next few years we should avoid any "Great" young player who is more than 3 years older than Parker and Giannis. The only exceptions are for Lebron, Durant, and Anthony Davis.

so im sure you were happy as a lark we lost out on Bledsoe in the redick s/t right? can you link me to where you weighed in with that discussion espousing the benefits of passing up on him so we wouldn't have to pay him later?

your rules about how we must grow and improve are absurd. its hard enough to grow thru the draft that you would rule out all other options for improvement in order to supposedly increase our odds for it.

Of course I was happy. Getting Bledsoe would have killed our chances of a Top pick that we desperately needed. It is a similar but more extreme version of why I was happy we avoided Teague. We get Bledsoe we win 25 game and now have Julius Randle instead. If you want to look through my post history be my guest.

You seem to not understand what I am saying. I am not saying to only improve through the draft forever. However, you do not sabotage the process prematurely for some who will be starting to break down by the time our core hits it's prime. It is like baking a cake. You want to begin spreading the frosting before the cake has even risen.

Do you think Bledsoe is the only RFA we will have the chance to give a max offer to the next 4 years? Are those extra 10 wins that get us to 30 and then 35 the year after that meaningful to you. You are basically arguing Bledsoe + #11 or so pick is superior to Top 5 pick + any RFA the next 4 years.

We also will not even mention Bledsoe returning from a devastating injury that at minimum is a significant red flag.

[WRau1]

For the next few years we should avoid any "Great" young player who is more than 3 years older than Parker and Giannis. The only exceptions are for Lebron, Durant, and Anthony Davis.

so im sure you were happy as a lark we lost out on Bledsoe in the redick s/t right? can you link me to where you weighed in with that discussion espousing the benefits of passing up on him so we wouldn't have to pay him later?

your rules about how we must grow and improve are absurd. its hard enough to grow thru the draft that you would rule out all other options for improvement in order to supposedly increase our odds for it.

Of course I was happy. Getting Bledsoe would have killed our chances of a Top pick that we desperately needed. It is a similar but more extreme version of why I was happy we avoided Teague. We get Bledsoe we win 25 game and now have Julius Randle instead. If you want to look through my post history be my guest.

You seem to not understand what I am saying. I am not saying to only improve through the draft forever. However, you do not sabotage the process prematurely for some who will be starting to break down by the time our core hits it's prime. It is like baking a cake. You want to begin spreading the frosting before the cake has even risen.

Do you think Bledsoe is the only RFA we will have the chance to give a max offer to the next 4 years? Are those extra 10 wins that get us to 30 and then 35 the year after that meaningful to you. You are basically arguing Bledsoe + #11 or so pick is superior to Top 5 pick + any RFA the next 4 years.

We also will not even mention Bledsoe returning from a devastating injury that at minimum is a significant red flag.

That's basically what my thought process is as well. Late lotto + Bledsoe or top5 pick + cap room + whatever assets we save not having to deal for Bledsoe. I'll take the top5 pick.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Get Lin for capspace, plus that Pelicans pick, will be a late lotto pick next year.
Tank all the way to get Manny Mudiay, and let Kidd coach him up, pick another guy, likely a big, is a deep big class something good will be there, in the late lotto with the Pelicans pick and let Lin go in the FA.

That's the masterplan.

Mudiay-Knight-Wolters
Middleton
Parker-Antetokounmpo
Henson
Sanders-Raduljica

I couldn't care less about the rest, trade them if possible, for something good long term, if not let them expire.

You see Giannis as a career back up or what? Even with Henson and Middleton starting?

[lopey986]

Mudiay-Knight-Wolters
Middleton
Parker-Antetokounmpo
Henson
Sanders-Raduljica

Yeesh, that is a godawful defensive lineup. Probably pretty bad on offense too since no one on there can create their own shot. Jabari will be able to at the 4 but he'll likely get swallowed up by longer and quicker defenders if they put him at the 3. Henson and Sanders will, what?, stand in the paint and hope for dunk tips?

[theFireBlanket]

Get Lin for capspace, plus that Pelicans pick, will be a late lotto pick next year.
Tank all the way to get Manny Mudiay, and let Kidd coach him up, pick another guy, likely a big, is a deep big class something good will be there, in the late lotto with the Pelicans pick and let Lin go in the FA.

That's the masterplan.

Mudiay-Knight-Wolters
Middleton
Parker-Antetokounmpo
Henson
Sanders-Raduljica

I couldn't care less about the rest, trade them if possible, for something good long term, if not let them expire.

You see Giannis as a career back up or what? Even with Henson and Middleton starting?

That isn't a proper depth chart [no offense]. If those players were on the roster it would end up more like this:

Mudiay-Wolters
Middleton-Knight-Inglis
Antetokounmpo-Inglis
Parker-Henson-O'Bryant
Sanders-Henson-Radjuljica-O'Bryant

One of Rad, Henson or O'Bryant probably fall out of the lineup but Inglis should be on the team moving forward.

[neiLz]

I'd really love bledsoe here but I just don't see that happening. I'd take lin with assets from Houston. Then I'd trade lin mid season for more assets given that he produces, which i think he will given how well he'd fit on the team.

[BucksBrew]

Vasquez is the only one of the 3 I am not interested in. Bledsoe would be really cool running the point with Giannis and Parker. I would be ok with Lin cause we would get something in return for taking him, plus he could be a big trade chip next year when he has an expiring contract.

Knight is not a PG and I do not want to just give Wolters the starting job. So if these 3 do not happen I really hope we bring someone in to compete for the starting job.

This is the last year of Lin's contract

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/jeremy-lin/

I agree with everything you said though

[bizarro]

Man, I miss me some Buck Pack. I mean, am i right?!? Or am I right?!? How the mighty have fallen...




[*]At first glance this appears as a repost of a photobucket image. In actuality, this was painted with my tears

[Lippo]

Just offer him a max, and let the chips fall where they may, throw in Henson or Ersan if they want either.

Mayo & Henson for maxed Bledsoe or just move on.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Just offer him a max, and let the chips fall where they may, throw in Henson or Ersan if they want either.

Mayo & Henson for maxed Bledsoe or just move on.

This is the direction I'm starting to lean. Force a resolution, I'm fine either way.

[BigO]

First time post. After reading posts for a year or two, I can't resist commenting on a few things. The consistent overvaluing of other teams players clouds most of the peoples' judgments on this forum.

The ONLY issue that is important when discussing Bledsoe is how good of a player is he. And there is nothing in the several years he has been in the league that would tell you he is anywhere close to being a great player. The same people on this site who have complained about Knight not being a true point guard now want to sign Bledsoe to a max deal and he has no better court vision than Knight. Do you ever watch these guys play?

My eyeball test gives me this comparison:

Outside shooting-advantage Knight
Attacking and finishing at the basket- advantage Bledsoe but both are good
Point guard skills-even (neither very good)
Defense-slight advantage Bledsoe (when he wants to play)
leadership skills-?
Competitve nature -advantage Knight
Health-Advantage Knight
Upside--advantage Knight because he's 2 years younger


So many of you want to offer a max contract to a guard who has similar strengths and weaknesses to a player you already have. It makes no sense. I'd stick to what the Bucks have. I'd play Ilyasova a lot in hopes of getting his trade value up and also play Henson a lot at the beginning of the year in order to trade him. In my view, Henson lacks the competitive fire that is needed to be good. Stick to the plan. Philly may be going to the extreme, but they have the right idea.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Of course I was happy. Getting Bledsoe would have killed our chances of a Top pick that we desperately needed. It is a similar but more extreme version of why I was happy we avoided Teague. We get Bledsoe we win 25 game and now have Julius Randle instead. If you want to look through my post history be my guest.

You seem to not understand what I am saying. I am not saying to only improve through the draft forever. However, you do not sabotage the process prematurely for some who will be starting to break down by the time our core hits it's prime. It is like baking a cake. You want to begin spreading the frosting before the cake has even risen.

Do you think Bledsoe is the only RFA we will have the chance to give a max offer to the next 4 years? Are those extra 10 wins that get us to 30 and then 35 the year after that meaningful to you. You are basically arguing Bledsoe + #11 or so pick is superior to Top 5 pick + any RFA the next 4 years.

We also will not even mention Bledsoe returning from a devastating injury that at minimum is a significant red flag.

so if wolters, middleton, and miroslav develop into max level restricted free agents in the next year then that is a bad thing and we should let them walk. we will be simply improving too fast for it to be the proper way to rebuild. youre saying we dont want good players unless its our own top 5 picks. of course thats with the exception of giannis..... he doesnt count for some reason. gotcha.

selectively rooting against the improvement or acquisition of top young talent may be the most ass backwards way to develop a team ive ever heard but at least im clear on your thought process moving forward.

[eagle13]

OK S&T Bledsoe for Max - IF
* Trade costs us few assets (now that Frye signed with Magic Ersan might be welcome)
* We’re not tanking - then get a couple young vet SGs this year and get as good as you can

TRADES *=buy out

Knight Ersan 2015-1stTop7Protected – PHX- Bledsoe

AND SOMETHING LIKE
Mayo Zaza – SAC – McLemore, Terry* Outlaw*

Middleton Delfino – UT- Burks


FREE AGENCY
Byron Mullens- C-PF 1.5m/1y
Jimmer Fredette- SG-PG - 1.2m/1y


ROSTER-age
Sanders-25 / Radu-28 / Mullens-25
Parker-19 / Henson-23 / OBryant-20
Giannis-19 / Wright-26 / Ingliis-20
Burks-22 / McLemore-21 / Fredette-25
Bledsoe-24 / Wolters-23