ATL - New Lottery Rules Move to Owner Vote - pg59

[jute2003]

I'll tell you guys one thing, if Giannis leaves, I am cancelling my season tix and 1000% percent blaming the management and ownership. After waiting so long to have a top player, our management has shown no vision in building the team. It's on them all the way and I'll be 1000% destroyed as a fan of the Bucks.


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If the Bucks are an eastern conference finals team that last year of his deal and are obviously one of the top 4 teams in the league.....AND he leaves and goes to whatever team beats us in the conference finals?

[M-C-G]

I'll tell you guys one thing, if Giannis leaves, I am cancelling my season tix and 1000% percent blaming the management and ownership. After waiting so long to have a top player, our management has shown no vision in building the team. It's on them all the way and I'll be 1000% destroyed as a fan of the Bucks.


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If the Bucks are an eastern conference finals team that last year of his deal and are obviously one of the top 4 teams in the league.....AND he leaves and goes to whatever team beats us in the conference finals?

I'll blame the management and ownership and be absolutely heart broken. If he leaves, I don't care where he goes.

[midranger]

For the life of me, I can't understand the Durant bashing/hatred.

[SirChurros]

For the life of me, I can't understand the Durant bashing/hatred.

What's so hard to understand about it?

[tydett]

When I was in high school, we used to do Jeopardy style reviews in classes for extra credit points for the winners. I never joined up with the dumb kids to try and carry them to victory. I teamed up with the other smart kids to **** wreck fools. You know who might've thought we were pussies? The dumb kids.

[HurricaneKid]

I don't understand anyone here in September (the one mo out of the year to take a break from basketball if ever there was one- but cares THAT much about the NBA) that is OK with him completely blowing the league up for a 4 year period.

[midranger]

I don't understand anyone here in September (the one mo out of the year to take a break from basketball if ever there was one- but cares THAT much about the NBA) that is OK with him completely blowing the league up for a 4 year period.

So Durant is an omnipotent basketball God? I mean he singlehandedly "completely blew up" a multi billion dollar industry with his brilliance! That's amazing.

I'm just not getting this level of angst. He left a team not serious about winning to go to one that was very serious about winning. He did this all within the rules the league and players agreed upon. And then he won.

Not sure why I should hate him.

[Perishable517]

You know who the real pussy is? Mike Dunleavy, Jr. That guy, I tell ya.

This, most definitely this.

[HurricaneKid]

I don't understand anyone here in September (the one mo out of the year to take a break from basketball if ever there was one- but cares THAT much about the NBA) that is OK with him completely blowing the league up for a 4 year period.

So Durant is an omnipotent basketball God? I mean he singlehandedly "completely blew up" a multi billion dollar industry with his brilliance! That's amazing.

I'm just not getting this level of angst. He left a team not serious about winning to go to one that was very serious about winning. He did this all within the rules the league and players agreed upon. And then he won.

Not sure why I should hate him.

No one is suggesting he isn't good. You can't destroy competitive balance with a mediocre player. He left a team that was CLEARLY among the best 3-4 teams in the league to join a 73 win team.

Let make a bet. I bet the Warriors win the title this year and next year. You can pick any 10 teams to win this year. If the Warriors win this year and lose the following year we push. Any interest? If not, stop pretending competitive balance exists in the league. They have 4 players that have been All NBA in the last two seasons PLUS a slew of really good vets.

[chonestown]

For the life of me, I can't understand the Durant bashing/hatred.

How dare he forsake the arid charm of Oklahoma and the forthright integrity of Clay Bennett!

[H2tObes]

I don't understand anyone here in September (the one mo out of the year to take a break from basketball if ever there was one- but cares THAT much about the NBA) that is OK with him completely blowing the league up for a 4 year period.

So Durant is an omnipotent basketball God? I mean he singlehandedly "completely blew up" a multi billion dollar industry with his brilliance! That's amazing.

I'm just not getting this level of angst. He left a team not serious about winning to go to one that was very serious about winning. He did this all within the rules the league and players agreed upon. And then he won.

Not sure why I should hate him.

This sentence baffled me

And no one is forcing you to "hate" KD, but it's pretty damn obvious why your average basketball fan dislikes the guy

[FlagsFlyForever]

People are already acting like nobody cared about the 2017 Finals because everybody knew Golden State would win. CLE-GS 3 was one of the most anticipated Finals series I can ever remember going in. It was the highest rated Finals since MJ. How quickly people forget that the series would've been tied 2-2 if Kyrie didn't choke away Game 3 and Durant didn't hit two huge clutch shots back-to-back when the Warriors were down 4 to give them a 1 point lead. Cleveland certainly could've won last year.

As I've said before, I would be surprised if Golden State wins the next two to threepeat. All of a sudden people are overhyping the Warriors. The rhetoric surrounding current Golden State is very similar to what was being said about the 2016 Warriors before they lost to Cleveland.

[ReasonablySober]

Whoa. Lottery reform could be coming soon.

[emunney]

Whoa. Lottery reform could be coming soon.

Commissioner Adam Silver is a strong advocate to de-incentivize tanking by implementing lower odds on the NBA's worst teams to gain the top picks in the draft, league sources said.

THIS ONLY REDISTRIBUTES THE INCENTIVE TO TANK

[Ron Swanson]

I have no idea why they'd want to go that direction. Just tweak the lottery odds so that the percentages directly correlate to how many games you lose. Meaning, if a team loses 70 games, then they should have more than a 25% chance of getting the top-pick. The whole preset odds/percentages in draft slots simply encourages strategic tanking and jockeying in the standings towards the end of the year. Penalizing the truly bad teams that need top-tier talent the most is dumb.

[HurricaneKid]

Whoa. Lottery reform could be coming soon.

They attempted this last year and it was soundly defeated. They need 75% of the votes which means 23 teams would need to vote affirmatively to change it. The Cavs just traded Kyrie for a pick, they aren't going to vote for it to lose value less than a week later. And there are several teams in the midst of rebuilds, arguably more than in years past. I just don't see how this gains enough steam to move forward.

You could have literally the worst team in the history of the league over a decade end up never getting a top 5 pick. That's completely unreasonable IMO.

The way to do this it to involve the profit sharing splits. If you are a brutal team worthy of a top 5 pick you are killing the rest of the league at the gate; therefore, you lose $$$. How to split is up to the teams but I think FOs will feel that and its a way to unburden the teams earning the ratings for the league.

[HurricaneKid]

I have no idea why they'd want to go that direction. Just tweak the lottery odds so that the percentages directly correlate to how many games you lose. Meaning, if a team loses 70 games, then they should have more than a 25% chance of getting the top-pick. The whole preset odds/percentages in draft slots simply encourages strategic tanking and jockeying in the standings towards the end of the year. Penalizing the truly bad teams that need top-tier talent the most is dumb.

But then you are directly rewarding losing which is what they are trying to do away with.

[Wooderson]

For the life of me, I can't understand the Durant bashing/hatred.

Really? I mean I don't blame him for making the move but the backlash is pretty understandable. 2016 playoffs ended with two of the most exciting playoff series in history with OKC/GS, Cavs/GS. Then in one move he made both of those matchups and the entire season a foregone conclusion.

[trwi7]

Giving better teams better odds at winning the number 1 pick creates more teams willing to tank.

If I'm a GM and my team is 22-36 for like the 9th worst record and I realize if I get to 6 I have a 10% chance of winning or something, I'm sitting players and doing whatever I can to get to the 6th spot.

[emunney]

Hard cap, no max salaries, random draft.