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Post#981 » by LuessiT » Tue Jun 4, 2019 12:10 pm

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emunney wrote:See for context on THT's shooting %



Think this kid is a better pro than NCAA player.


There is no way he drops to #30 imo.

THT is one of my faves, think his game translates super well.

I'm starting to think someone pretty damn good will be there at 30, because the list of guys that "there is no way they'll be there at 30" keeps growing and growing.

Talen Horton-Tucker
Kevin Porter, Jr.
Keldon Johnson
Goga Bitadze
Darius Bazley
KZ Okpala
Chuma Okeke
Luka Samanic
Mfiondu Kabengele
Louis King

If guys like Cam Johnson, Carsen Edwards, Daniel Gafford start coming off the board, we're gonna have a chance to get a nice player.


I'd be down with pretty much anyone of that list. Don't know enough about King, KZ and Kabengele yet to have a proper opinion and Samancic seems like a poor fit in the current roster. Probably will end up with Gafford :banghead:
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#982 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jun 4, 2019 1:35 pm

Those highlights look great for THT but those stats are ugly.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#983 » by HaroldinGMinor » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:02 pm

I think the Bucks are in a nice position as most teams above them will go for ceiling rather than floor. So some college senior high floor guy will probably fall in their lap and be a nice contributor.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#984 » by LuessiT » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:05 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Those highlights look great for THT but those stats are ugly.


You mean his shooting stats? Cause everything else looks exceptional to me.
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Post#985 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jun 4, 2019 2:10 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:Those highlights look great for THT but those stats are ugly.


You mean his shooting stats? Cause everything else looks exceptional to me.


Yes.
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Post#986 » by emunney » Tue Jun 4, 2019 3:29 pm

On one hand, THT is creating a lot of his own shots and even his spot up shots are often from NBA range, sometimes deep NBA range. So that mitigates some of the concern over the 30% from 3. On the other hand, subpar FT shooter.

The guy is a fantastic finisher, excellent ball handler and passer, and very stout and active defensively. Plus he's a young freshman -- doesn't turn 19 until over a month into next season. One of the few guys I'd take and see what happens with the J.

PLUS we could call him Chunky, and we've got all summer to figure out what Chunky does.
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Post#987 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jun 4, 2019 7:51 pm

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#988 » by RiotPunch » Wed Jun 5, 2019 3:50 am

I keep coming back to Chuma Okeke.

He's already so well disciplined on both ends. On defense, he's always on time with the help, always clogging lanes, getting deflections... right place, right time. On offense, he gets to his spots and knocks down jumpers... corner threes, elbow extended threes, etc. In transition, he SPRINTS to his spots, usually the corner, and waits for the opportunity. He's shown some life off the dribble too, lots of untapped potential there. Crafty in the lane. Just super smart player, highly confident in his ability to be a really solid pro. If not for the ACL, he'd be exactly #8 on my board. (Zion, Barrett, Morant, Garland, Culver, Hunter, White, Okeke)

If we "run it back", he'd be a late-season (April/March) addition to the rotation who could hit his stride come playoff time. Just watching him drain corner three after corner three, especially in transition, makes it easy to picture him as a big piece for us, his defensive versatility is icing on the cake.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#989 » by bdpecore » Wed Jun 5, 2019 12:56 pm

RiotPunch wrote:I keep coming back to Chuma Okeke.

He's already so well disciplined on both ends. On defense, he's always on time with the help, always clogging lanes, getting deflections... right place, right time. On offense, he gets to his spots and knocks down jumpers... corner threes, elbow extended threes, etc. In transition, he SPRINTS to his spots, usually the corner, and waits for the opportunity. He's shown some life off the dribble too, lots of untapped potential there. Crafty in the lane. Just super smart player, highly confident in his ability to be a really solid pro. If not for the ACL, he'd be exactly #8 on my board. (Zion, Barrett, Morant, Garland, Culver, Hunter, White, Okeke)

If we "run it back", he'd be a late-season (April/March) addition to the rotation who could hit his stride come playoff time. Just watching him drain corner three after corner three, especially in transition, makes it easy to picture him as a big piece for us, his defensive versatility is icing on the cake.

Okeke is my #1 target too. My list is:
1. Chuma Okeke
2. Dylan Windler (Guy can flat out shoot)
3. Ty Jerome (Good combo guard off the bench)
4. Naz Reid (Good project big)
5. Jalen McDaniels (More length and scoring)

I’d also like to see about buying a 2nd rounder to grab either Luka Samanic or Admiral Schofield. I believe Samanic could be a Mirotic in the making if he can add some weight and has someone like Giannis pushing him to get his motor running more consistently. Schofield just seems like the type of player who will somehow find a way to succeed at the next level and he’s a physical player who could develop into a PJ Tucker type of bruiser.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#991 » by crkone » Wed Jun 5, 2019 1:57 pm

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About 40% of all college games are available, for about 4,400 players from this year. Games with no shot data for each player’s team are listed in the panel on the left. The chart itself is divided into six zones. Three pointers are divided into right wing, above the break, and left wing. There’s also a superimposed NBA 3-point line – NBA 3s noted in the chart were taken from beyond this line. Two pointers are split into rim attempts, short mid-range (5 to 13 feet), and the long mid-range (13 feet+). The table below the chart shows the number of attempts and field goal percentage are shown for each range, as well as the percentage of makes assisted. There are minor errors in the data (sometimes a shot will log with ‘no one’ taking it), but the counts are largely accurate for the games included.


https://www.thestepien.com/shot-chart/

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#992 » by emunney » Wed Jun 5, 2019 4:55 pm

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About 40% of all college games are available, for about 4,400 players from this year. Games with no shot data for each player’s team are listed in the panel on the left. The chart itself is divided into six zones. Three pointers are divided into right wing, above the break, and left wing. There’s also a superimposed NBA 3-point line – NBA 3s noted in the chart were taken from beyond this line. Two pointers are split into rim attempts, short mid-range (5 to 13 feet), and the long mid-range (13 feet+). The table below the chart shows the number of attempts and field goal percentage are shown for each range, as well as the percentage of makes assisted. There are minor errors in the data (sometimes a shot will log with ‘no one’ taking it), but the counts are largely accurate for the games included.


https://www.thestepien.com/shot-chart/


NBA 3s:

Cam Johnson - 75/162 46.3% (!!)
Louis King - 33/87 37.93%
Shamorie Ponds - 47/141 33.33%
Zach Norvell - 62/184 33.70%
Carsen Edwards - 114/313 36.42%
Kyle Guy - 79/187 42.25%
Ty Jerome - 56/138 40.58%
Chuma Okeke - 40/101 39.6%
Keldon Johnson - 29/71 40.85%
Tyler Herro - 36/113 31.86%
Talen Horton-Tucker - 37/117 31.79%
KZ Okpala - 19/58 32.76%

They only had a couple of Windler's games but he was close to 50%.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#993 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 5, 2019 5:10 pm

emunney wrote:
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About 40% of all college games are available, for about 4,400 players from this year. Games with no shot data for each player’s team are listed in the panel on the left. The chart itself is divided into six zones. Three pointers are divided into right wing, above the break, and left wing. There’s also a superimposed NBA 3-point line – NBA 3s noted in the chart were taken from beyond this line. Two pointers are split into rim attempts, short mid-range (5 to 13 feet), and the long mid-range (13 feet+). The table below the chart shows the number of attempts and field goal percentage are shown for each range, as well as the percentage of makes assisted. There are minor errors in the data (sometimes a shot will log with ‘no one’ taking it), but the counts are largely accurate for the games included.


https://www.thestepien.com/shot-chart/


NBA 3s:

Cam Johnson - 75/162 46.3% (!!)
Louis King - 33/87 37.93%
Shamorie Ponds - 47/141 33.33%
Zach Norvell - 62/184 33.70%
Carsen Edwards - 114/313 36.42%
Kyle Guy - 79/187 42.25%
Ty Jerome - 56/138 40.58%
Chuma Okeke - 40/101 39.6%
Keldon Johnson - 29/71 40.85%
Tyler Herro - 36/113 31.86%
Talen Horton-Tucker - 37/117 31.79%
KZ Okpala - 19/58 32.76%

They only had a couple of Windler's games but he was close to 50%.


Louis King is definitely a guy I'm keeping an eye on. Don't think he's in my top 5 realistic options at #30 yet, but I don't think I can rule it out completely either.
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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#994 » by crkone » Wed Jun 5, 2019 5:40 pm

machu46 wrote:
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NBA 3s:

Cam Johnson - 75/162 46.3% (!!)
Louis King - 33/87 37.93%
Shamorie Ponds - 47/141 33.33%
Zach Norvell - 62/184 33.70%
Carsen Edwards - 114/313 36.42%
Kyle Guy - 79/187 42.25%
Ty Jerome - 56/138 40.58%
Chuma Okeke - 40/101 39.6%
Keldon Johnson - 29/71 40.85%
Tyler Herro - 36/113 31.86%
Talen Horton-Tucker - 37/117 31.79%
KZ Okpala - 19/58 32.76%

They only had a couple of Windler's games but he was close to 50%.


Louis King is definitely a guy I'm keeping an eye on. Don't think he's in my top 5 realistic options at #30 yet, but I don't think I can rule it out completely either.


Agreed. You can't rule out good shooting freshmen, especially with his size.

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Post#995 » by crkone » Wed Jun 5, 2019 5:42 pm

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Re: 2019 Draft Thread 

Post#996 » by Matches Malone » Wed Jun 5, 2019 5:50 pm

I think I've zero'd in on Cam Johnson. That boy has a sweet sweet stroke. Now to be demoralized when he winds up going 10-12 picks before 30 LOL.
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Post#997 » by Badgerlander » Wed Jun 5, 2019 6:12 pm

emunney wrote:
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About 40% of all college games are available, for about 4,400 players from this year. Games with no shot data for each player’s team are listed in the panel on the left. The chart itself is divided into six zones. Three pointers are divided into right wing, above the break, and left wing. There’s also a superimposed NBA 3-point line – NBA 3s noted in the chart were taken from beyond this line. Two pointers are split into rim attempts, short mid-range (5 to 13 feet), and the long mid-range (13 feet+). The table below the chart shows the number of attempts and field goal percentage are shown for each range, as well as the percentage of makes assisted. There are minor errors in the data (sometimes a shot will log with ‘no one’ taking it), but the counts are largely accurate for the games included.


https://www.thestepien.com/shot-chart/


NBA 3s:

Cam Johnson - 75/162 46.3% (!!)
Louis King - 33/87 37.93%
Shamorie Ponds - 47/141 33.33%
Zach Norvell - 62/184 33.70%
Carsen Edwards - 114/313 36.42%
Kyle Guy - 79/187 42.25%
Ty Jerome - 56/138 40.58%
Chuma Okeke - 40/101 39.6%
Keldon Johnson - 29/71 40.85%
Tyler Herro - 36/113 31.86%
Talen Horton-Tucker - 37/117 31.79%
KZ Okpala - 19/58 32.76%

They only had a couple of Windler's games but he was close to 50%.


That Kyle guy can shoot
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Post#999 » by tski1972 » Wed Jun 5, 2019 6:39 pm

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