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Re: ATL - 2021 Trade Deadline 3/25 - Bulls-Magic deal pg 30 

Post#981 » by jschligs » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:35 pm

drdrG wrote:Miami does not have a weak point in their 10-11 deep rotation - I think they are going to be a really tough out.


Well, they have a weak point in terms of injuries which is a huge factor.
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Post#982 » by coolhandluke121 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:35 pm

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drdrG wrote:Miami does not have a weak point in their 10-11 deep rotation - I think they are going to be a really tough out.


I've seen these guys play a lot. Smart teams make Robinson play defense by relentlessly hunting him. The Bucks need to figure out a way to do that whenever he's on the court.

I was watching the game ...was that yesterday? ...against Portland and when they went at him it was a bucket of a foul.


This was probably my biggest complaint about the Miami series. Idgaf if he's guarding Wes Matthews; you give him and his measly 7.4 ppg the damn ball. But noooooo, let's let Khris work on Iggy or Butler or Crowder and let Giannis charge into Crowder with Bam waiting for him at the rim. :roll:

Other than Crowder, Miami's shooters couldn't defend and their defenders couldn't shoot, but Milwaukee let them off the hook the entire time on both counts.
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Post#986 » by Coach Carter » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:39 pm

Heat are the only team that scare me. We couldn't defend their guards before n now they added dipo. At least we no longer have to see kelly f* Olynyk's face every time he drains a 3 after brook leaves him open.
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Post#987 » by emunney » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:45 pm

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drdrG wrote:Miami does not have a weak point in their 10-11 deep rotation - I think they are going to be a really tough out.


I've seen these guys play a lot. Smart teams make Robinson play defense by relentlessly hunting him. The Bucks need to figure out a way to do that whenever he's on the court.

I was watching the game ...was that yesterday? ...against Portland and when they went at him it was a bucket of a foul.


This was probably my biggest complaint about the Miami series. Idgaf if he's guarding Wes Matthews; you give him and his measly 7.4 ppg the damn ball. But noooooo, let's let Khris work on Iggy or Butler or Crowder and let Giannis charge into Crowder with Bam waiting for him at the rim. :roll:

Other than Crowder, Miami's shooters couldn't defend and their defenders couldn't shoot, but Milwaukee let them off the hook the entire time on both counts.


When we finally started going after Robinson they literally had to stop playing him. Maddening.
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Post#988 » by StickeeFingaz » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:59 pm

Didn’t dig into the stat but posting it since Donte was mentioned:

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Post#989 » by truly » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:04 pm

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coolhandluke121 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
I've seen these guys play a lot. Smart teams make Robinson play defense by relentlessly hunting him. The Bucks need to figure out a way to do that whenever he's on the court.

I was watching the game ...was that yesterday? ...against Portland and when they went at him it was a bucket of a foul.


This was probably my biggest complaint about the Miami series. Idgaf if he's guarding Wes Matthews; you give him and his measly 7.4 ppg the damn ball. But noooooo, let's let Khris work on Iggy or Butler or Crowder and let Giannis charge into Crowder with Bam waiting for him at the rim. :roll:

Other than Crowder, Miami's shooters couldn't defend and their defenders couldn't shoot, but Milwaukee let them off the hook the entire time on both counts.


When we finally started going after Robinson they literally had to stop playing him. Maddening.
How many games did it take before we started going under screens against butler? Just a poor all around job in the series.
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Post#990 » by midranger » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:15 pm

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coolhandluke121 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
I've seen these guys play a lot. Smart teams make Robinson play defense by relentlessly hunting him. The Bucks need to figure out a way to do that whenever he's on the court.

I was watching the game ...was that yesterday? ...against Portland and when they went at him it was a bucket of a foul.


This was probably my biggest complaint about the Miami series. Idgaf if he's guarding Wes Matthews; you give him and his measly 7.4 ppg the damn ball. But noooooo, let's let Khris work on Iggy or Butler or Crowder and let Giannis charge into Crowder with Bam waiting for him at the rim. :roll:

Other than Crowder, Miami's shooters couldn't defend and their defenders couldn't shoot, but Milwaukee let them off the hook the entire time on both counts.


When we finally started going after Robinson they literally had to stop playing him. Maddening.

It was like literally the key to the series that any casual/National color commentator could easily pick out before the games started. Attack Robinson, Herro, Dragic in that order and try to play them off the court.

Bud is like, nah. Giannis, 1-on-4 is how we roll.
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Post#991 » by SupremeHustle » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:17 pm

StickeeFingaz wrote:Didn’t dig into the stat but posting it since Donte was mentioned:

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So what you're saying is we need to try Donte as a small ball 5.
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Post#992 » by FrieAaron » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:33 pm

Just to make sure I'm reading that correctly, they're saying top 99% in finishing at the rim when adjusted for difficulty. As in terrible?
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Post#993 » by Prez » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:38 pm

That Heat series by Bud was one of the worst playoff coaching performances I’ve seen in a while. Just the most basic ass adjustments that everyone was calling for and we push that to series to 7 at least. If we had basically any other starting PG besides Bled we win.
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Post#994 » by emunney » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:39 pm

FrieAaron wrote:Just to make sure I'm reading that correctly, they're saying top 99% in finishing at the rim when adjusted for difficulty. As in terrible?


Yep! Adjusting for shot difficulty, which I'm not sure what data they're using to control for that, he's better than only Donte and Boogie, which means either Donte or Boogie are the worst.
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Post#995 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:36 pm

For how much of an outlier Drummond is in both size and freakish athleticism, it's pretty pathetic how awful he's been as a finisher throughout his entire career. I'll never forget the playoff series vs. the Pistons where BroLo absolutely stonewalled him and it looked like he quit right on the floor. So yeah, I expect he'll fit in perfectly with the Beta crew over in LakerLand.
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Post#997 » by KidA24 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:54 am

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This was probably my biggest complaint about the Miami series. Idgaf if he's guarding Wes Matthews; you give him and his measly 7.4 ppg the damn ball. But noooooo, let's let Khris work on Iggy or Butler or Crowder and let Giannis charge into Crowder with Bam waiting for him at the rim. :roll:

Other than Crowder, Miami's shooters couldn't defend and their defenders couldn't shoot, but Milwaukee let them off the hook the entire time on both counts.


When we finally started going after Robinson they literally had to stop playing him. Maddening.

It was like literally the key to the series that any casual/National color commentator could easily pick out before the games started. Attack Robinson, Herro, Dragic in that order and try to play them off the court.

Bud is like, nah. Giannis, 1-on-4 is how we roll.


That's how Giannis rolled too.

Every pick and roll he ducked the screen instead of making them switch. Instead of getting Robinson or Herro on him. Every single one.
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Post#998 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:41 am

Wood and Brown starting for Houston, DJ and DJ in the rotation. And they lose to Minnesota. Easy to get box score numbers on a bad team.
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Post#999 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:54 am

Prez wrote:That Heat series by Bud was one of the worst playoff coaching performances I’ve seen in a while. Just the most basic ass adjustments that everyone was calling for and we push that to series to 7 at least. If we had basically any other starting PG besides Bled we win.


I sometimes wonder if having to deal with a brain dead PG was related to the unwillingness to adjust. The Bucks have been making nonstop adjustments now that they have a smarter roster.
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Post#1000 » by blazza18 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:14 am

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