Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bobby back on a 4/$49 deal, Ingles 1 year deal

crkone · Post #981 » by **crkone** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:19 pm

Nwora and Carter.... hmm...

ShootingtheJ · Post #982 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:20 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
LuessiT wrote:Could Amir Coffey be a sneaky candidate for a multi-year tax MLE deal? Really liked him for the Clippers and I doubt they will match especially if they get Noel.

Amir Coffey could be interesting

I really like Amir, but he's a RFA right? That could cause an issue, they'd match the offer.

ShootingtheJ · Post #983 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:22 pm

crkone wrote:

Read on Twitter

Nwora and Carter.... hmm...

Diakite hung with the team all last offseason, and then was cut before camp. I wouldn't read too much into it.

Ron Swanson · Post #984 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:25 pm

I'd say the spacing is more than "a little bit" off considering you have one postseason 3PT shooter above 30% in that proposed starting-5. Thought we already kinda litigated the Simmons stuff a while back. Beyond the massive red flags of getting a serious back injury while sitting at home and the extreme fragility of his mental state, the fit with Giannis on offense might be the worst modern pairing I can think of between two "star" players. Like Kyrie, his complete unreliability makes him a net-negative on the basketball court.

LuessiT · Post #985 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:26 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
LuessiT wrote:Could Amir Coffey be a sneaky candidate for a multi-year tax MLE deal? Really liked him for the Clippers and I doubt they will match especially if they get Noel.

Amir Coffey could be interesting

I really like Amir, but he's a RFA right? That could cause an issue, they'd match the offer.

They have non-bird rights only, can't match a tax MLE offer without their tax MLE. They can offer him 120% raise but it's nowhere close to the tax MLE.

LuessiT · Post #986 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:37 pm

I think we can manage one more non shooter as long as that player does other things to make space, like cutting, setting screens, vertical spacing. Simmons gravitates towards the ball and does nothing of that. I think the offensive fit would be atrocious unless the plan is to move Giannis off ball (and that's a mistake too imo).

CharityStripe34 · Post #987 » by **CharityStripe34** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:11 pm

Simmons is a disaster until proven otherwise. And not even because of his back.

MVP2110 · Post #988 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:09 pm

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Ron Swanson · Post #989 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:12 pm

bUt PJ WaS SEt oN MiAmi AnD DidN'T LiKE iT hERE CUz It'S CoLD

DrWood · Post #990 » by **DrWood** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:20 pm

WRau1 wrote:
DrWood wrote:
WRau1 wrote:Warren is a popular name among a lot of teams, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a shorter deal for more than we can offer. If we're offering a starting spot, perhaps that would swing it in our favor, though. I'm indifferent towards him.

teams would be foolish to guarantee him very much.

Teams do foolish things all the time, like giving George Hill a 2 yr deal.

You mean the guy who had the second-best +/- on the team last year?
Some of you guys don't realize how important it is to have some guys on the team who don't get in the way of the big three and who make few mistakes.

emunney · Post #991 » by **emunney** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:22 pm

MVP2110 wrote:

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The way this is going, there will be no 2nd round next year.

DrWood · Post #992 » by **DrWood** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:27 pm

Profound23 wrote:If I make that deal then Simmons starts at pg, Jrue becomes my sg and the defense on this team is insane.

Simmons-Jrue-Middleton-Giannis-Bamba or Portis

That would be the best defense in the league. The spacing is a little off, but I don't care. As long as Simmons is 100% healthy I take it.

Replace Bamba/Portis with a switchable 3&D small ball 4/5, and it would be insane on defense, for sure. And they could get a lot of offense in transition.
Though I would only take Simmons if they're giving him away, and the team is constructed so that it doesn't rely on him. Because you can't count on him to play.

JayMKE · Post #993 » by **JayMKE** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:30 pm

Good for PJ securing the bag so late in his career but Im not locking a 37 year old roleplayer into a deal like that. Philly is a mentally immature team so they’d probably benefit the most from his locker room presence.

Badgerlander · Post #994 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:44 pm

Simmons had back surgery on a herniated disk, no thanks

WRau1 · Post #995 » by **WRau1** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:49 pm

DrWood wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
DrWood wrote:teams would be foolish to guarantee him very much.

Teams do foolish things all the time, like giving George Hill a 2 yr deal.

You mean the guy who had the second-best +/- on the team last year?
Some of you guys don't realize how important it is to have some guys on the team who don't get in the way of the big three and who make few mistakes.

uh huh.

theFireBlanket · Post #996 » by **theFireBlanket** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:06 pm

DrWood wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
DrWood wrote:teams would be foolish to guarantee him very much.

Teams do foolish things all the time, like giving George Hill a 2 yr deal.

You mean the guy who had the second-best +/- on the team last year?
Some of you guys don't realize how important it is to have some guys on the team who don't get in the way of the big three and who make few mistakes.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2022/05/08/george-hill-part-bucks-playoff-push-after-neck-abdominal-injuries/9698544002/

Also ignoring that he fought through health issues to get back on the court.

Post #997 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:24 pm

JFC on the PJ Tucker thing. Both from the standpoint we punted on him, and for the fact only the Bucks get truly tagged for starting free agency early.

benultimate · Post #998 » by **benultimate** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:26 pm

I still think we could get D'Angelo Russell for the Brook/Grayson/Hill pu pu platter

The Wet Whistle · Post #999 » by **The Wet Whistle** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:30 pm

Bucks should be given a 2nd round pick back. Free agency is absolutely buckwild with early deals.

TroyD92 · Post #1000 » by **TroyD92** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:30 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:
DrWood wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
Teams do foolish things all the time, like giving George Hill a 2 yr deal.

You mean the guy who had the second-best +/- on the team last year?
Some of you guys don't realize how important it is to have some guys on the team who don't get in the way of the big three and who make few mistakes.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2022/05/08/george-hill-part-bucks-playoff-push-after-neck-abdominal-injuries/9698544002/

Also ignoring that he fought through health issues to get back on the court.

Don't think anyone is ignoring it. It comes with the territory when you're 36 years old.