2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27

[BUCKnation]

Weren't our best defensive teams pre-pj and Jrue? It would be interesting to see how those guys were viewed if our lasting memory was KD dropping 49/48 in a span of 4 nights.

Those first two Bud teams were probably our best teams overall. Young, hungry Giannis and Khris. Brook was reinvigorated and still somewhat mobile. Bled was a very good POA defender. Had some smart, connective tissue defenders like Hill, Brogdon, DiVincenzo.

It’s a shame we didn’t make hay with those teams.

Bud couldn’t decipher the Raps putting 4 guys on Giannis and no one could hit a shot. 2020 obvious a VERY weird year, but we lost 4 of 5 even before COVID. Came back in bubble looking completely disinterested and went 3-5 before getting steam rolled by Miami.

That 19/20 team was on pace to hit high 60's wins. Now, Giannis got injured right before COVID killed the season, but they were like 53-9 at one point

[Profound23]

Can't wait to get together with all my friends and spend an entire day on the 2nd round of the NBA draft.

[midranger]

Weren't our best defensive teams pre-pj and Jrue? It would be interesting to see how those guys were viewed if our lasting memory was KD dropping 49/48 in a span of 4 nights.

Those first two Bud teams were probably our best teams overall. Young, hungry Giannis and Khris. Brook was reinvigorated and still somewhat mobile. Bled was a very good POA defender. Had some smart, connective tissue defenders like Hill, Brogdon, DiVincenzo.

It’s a shame we didn’t make hay with those teams.

Bud couldn’t decipher the Raps putting 4 guys on Giannis and no one could hit a shot. 2020 obvious a VERY weird year, but we lost 4 of 5 even before COVID. Came back in bubble looking completely disinterested and went 3-5 before getting steam rolled by Miami.

That 19/20 team was on pace to hit high 60's wins. Now, Giannis got injured right before COVID killed the season, but they were like 53-9 at one point

Yeah, those first two teams probably should’ve gotten to the Finals at least. At least one of the seasons.

Clearly the best team in the NBA both years. Head and shoulders above all others.

[Matches Malone]

I'm starting to come around more on Dunn if that's the direction Horst goes. He's such an elite defensive prospect. Just wish the guy had any semblance of a jumper. Tired of not having guys that can create or hit a shot.
 

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[BUCKnation]

I like quite a few prospects, but given our roster, I feel like Ryan Dunn is a must at one of our picks should we stay put.

[M-C-G]

I'm starting to come around more on Dunn if that's the direction Horst goes. He's such an elite defensive prospect. Just wish the guy had any semblance of a jumper. Tired of not having guys that can create or hit a shot.
 

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Come out of this draft with Kyshawn and Dunn. Maybe buy a late second and draft Beekman.

Would be just such a massive boost to this team from an energy/defense perspective

[JayMKE]

Stretching the draft an extra day for the 2nd round is honestly infuriating, hate ESPN so much

[German Athens]

I'm starting to come around more on Dunn if that's the direction Horst goes. He's such an elite defensive prospect. Just wish the guy had any semblance of a jumper. Tired of not having guys that can create or hit a shot.
 

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Yeah, I kinda think he may be a generational defensive player.

Maybe his offense is bad enough that he won’t be able to see the court, but if he’s as good as I think he’ll be defensively, he’ll have to play.

[Licensed to Il]

I'm starting to come around more on Dunn if that's the direction Horst goes. He's such an elite defensive prospect. Just wish the guy had any semblance of a jumper. Tired of not having guys that can create or hit a shot.
 

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Yeah, I kinda think he may be a generational defensive player.

Maybe his offense is bad enough that he won’t be able to see the court, but if he’s as good as I think he’ll be defensively, he’ll have to play.

Couldn’t he just be Bruce Bowen (elite wing defender who eventually in year 3 and beyond) shoots 39% on open corner threes)? That’s a startable player.

[emunney]

I'm starting to come around more on Dunn if that's the direction Horst goes. He's such an elite defensive prospect. Just wish the guy had any semblance of a jumper. Tired of not having guys that can create or hit a shot.
 

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Yeah, I kinda think he may be a generational defensive player.

Maybe his offense is bad enough that he won’t be able to see the court, but if he’s as good as I think he’ll be defensively, he’ll have to play.

Couldn’t he just be Bruce Bowen (elite wing defender who eventually in year 3 and beyond) shoots 39% on open corner threes)? That’s a startable player.

If you think of him as "Walker Kessler but he can make Jimmy Butler disappear" his utility starts to come into focus. He's a situational player, but for a pretty broad set of situations.

[midranger]

Bowen was startable mainly because he played between Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili AND became a legit elite level corner shooter. He lead the league in 3 point shooting one year despite being an awful FT shooter.

I think that development is really hard to assume in any player, and by the time it’d potentially develop a few years down the road, this Bucks team would need more dynamic offensive threats (assuming Mids and Dame don’t find some font of youth).

I’m not against Dunn, but I think you need to view him as a one way guy.

[machu46]

Posting since we worked him out. I think he's the only one that we've worked out that Hoop Intellect has done a video on so far.

Watch on YouTube

[neiLz]

Stretching the draft an extra day for the 2nd round is honestly infuriating, hate ESPN so much

Why ?

[Ron Swanson]

Problem is I don't see a single guy in the late-1st/early-2nd range (unless if somehow Jared McCain or Cody Williams falls) that has potential to develop into an elite-level offense/shot-creator guy. Maybe Bub or Ajay Mitchell has an outside shot of being a Derrick White type dude? Dunn is separating himself for me if we're really intent on keeping our 1st. I don't really like the comparisons to Thybulle and Andre Roberson. Those dudes were strictly guard/wing defenders. Dunn being a legit switchable 2-5 guy is what separates and gives him greater impact potential.

[M-C-G]

Problem is I don't see a single guy in the late-1st/early-2nd range (unless if somehow Jared McCain or Cody Williams falls) that has potential to develop into an elite-level offense/shot-creator guy. Maybe Bub or Ajay Mitchell has an outside shot of being a Derrick White type dude? Dunn is separating himself for me if we're really intent on keeping our 1st. I don't really like the comparisons to Thybulle and Andre Roberson. Those dudes were strictly guard/wing defenders. Dunn being a legit switchable 2-5 guy is what separates and gives him greater impact potential.

I still have PTSD from the Bucks inability to disrupt Tatum/Brown types. Middleton can’t do it any more and we won’t ask Giannis to do it. That’s a major gap we need to fix on this roster which is why I like the idea of Dunn so much. If he can even play some minutes as a small ball center next to Giannis, all the better. Hard to see us getting run on the way the Pacers did if Dunn/AJJ/Giannis are on the court

[Ron Swanson]

Problem is I don't see a single guy in the late-1st/early-2nd range (unless if somehow Jared McCain or Cody Williams falls) that has potential to develop into an elite-level offense/shot-creator guy. Maybe Bub or Ajay Mitchell has an outside shot of being a Derrick White type dude? Dunn is separating himself for me if we're really intent on keeping our 1st. I don't really like the comparisons to Thybulle and Andre Roberson. Those dudes were strictly guard/wing defenders. Dunn being a legit switchable 2-5 guy is what separates and gives him greater impact potential.

I still have PTSD from the Bucks inability to disrupt Tatum/Brown types. Middleton can’t do it any more and we won’t ask Giannis to do it. That’s a major gap we need to fix on this roster which is why I like the idea of Dunn so much. If he can even play some minutes as a small ball center next to Giannis, all the better. Hard to see us getting run on the way the Pacers did if Dunn/AJJ/Giannis are on the court

Well, this is also the problem with drafting Dunn. We just watched the two most preeminent 3PT spammer teams in a Finals series (literally #1 and 2 in 3PT attempts per game). I'd love to go full contrarian and just put the best defensive group out there around Dame and Giannis, but you really can't play all three of those dudes on the court at the same time in a modern NBA playoff series. It's too much of a spacing nightmare.

[M-C-G]

Problem is I don't see a single guy in the late-1st/early-2nd range (unless if somehow Jared McCain or Cody Williams falls) that has potential to develop into an elite-level offense/shot-creator guy. Maybe Bub or Ajay Mitchell has an outside shot of being a Derrick White type dude? Dunn is separating himself for me if we're really intent on keeping our 1st. I don't really like the comparisons to Thybulle and Andre Roberson. Those dudes were strictly guard/wing defenders. Dunn being a legit switchable 2-5 guy is what separates and gives him greater impact potential.

I still have PTSD from the Bucks inability to disrupt Tatum/Brown types. Middleton can’t do it any more and we won’t ask Giannis to do it. That’s a major gap we need to fix on this roster which is why I like the idea of Dunn so much. If he can even play some minutes as a small ball center next to Giannis, all the better. Hard to see us getting run on the way the Pacers did if Dunn/AJJ/Giannis are on the court

Well, this is also the problem with drafting Dunn. We just watched the two most preeminent 3PT spammer teams in a Finals series (literally #1 and 2 in 3PT attempts per game). I'd love to go full contrarian and just put the best defensive group out there around Dame and Giannis, but you really can't play all three of those dudes on the court at the same time in a modern NBA playoff series. It's too much of a spacing nightmare.

The upside IF Dunn figures out a corner 3 are worth the risk where we would take him. But I also think Dame, Giannis, Middleton! Bobby are high usage players that can kind of mitigate having a dude that can’t shoot.

In short, I just think we need a player like him very badly even as a zero on offense. I think he would still be a net positive because he fills such a deep void we have on this team and if he becomes serviceable from the corner well then you really have something special

[SirChurros]

After watching some highlights on the YouTube, I’m sold on Dunn. Dude is an absolute menace on defense and looks good in transition.

I also think his form looks remarkably good for a guy who only hit 20% of threes. I’d bet with some reps and coaching he becomes a decent shooter.

[German Athens]

I do think Dunn has a couple pathways to develop offensively, that’s not just predicated on his shot improving.

He could also develop into an active screen and roll guy. With his pretty damn elite athleticism, he could be a viable threat, and possibly somewhat early, because he’d be paired with Dame.

[MVP2110]

I just finished up my scouting on guys for 23 & 33

My top realistic Draft targets for 23
1 Kel'el Ware
2 Tyler Smith
3 Kyle Filipowski
4 Yves Messi
5 Bub Carrington
HM Ryan Dunn

My least favorite realistic Draft targets for 23
1 Baylor Scheierman
2 Kevin McCullar
3 Tyler Kolek
4 Tristan Da Silva

Everyone is else fine

My top realistic draft targets for 33
1 Pacome Dadiet
2 Cam Christie
3 Ulrich Chomche
4 Nikola Durisic

My least favorite Draft targets for 33
1 Cam Spencer
2 Scheierman(again)
3 Jamal Shead
4 Oso Ighodoro

Everyone else is fine to me

To determine realistic targets for 23 I looked at the consensus board between 16-32

For 33 I took the consensus board from 33-60