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Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:02 pm
by Nowak008
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/6869914/nba-dallas-mavericks-consider-deron-williams-trade
Why break up the champs? Well, there are a few reasons.
If we do have a 2011-12 season, we don't know if the Mavs will repeat. But it's safe to say that few would be shocked if they don't. Besides, in the summer of 2012, Dirk Nowitzki will be 34 years old and (possibly) entering his 15th season. While I fully believe Dirk will still be a terrific player, I don't think he'll be good enough to carry a team with no other stars to the title. Thus, it will be time for a change. Here's how I'd do it:
While the contracts of Jason Kidd and Jason Terry will expire heading into the summer of 2012 -- thereby theoretically creating cap space -- I'm going to assume the Mavericks signed Tyson Chandler before the 2011-12 season. J.J. Barea moved on, leaving about $8 million of cap room after Terry's and Kidd's deals expire.
Even though Dirk will be toward the end of his prime, we must keep him because of his legendary status within the franchise. Everyone else, however, is available. Since Dallas has a crop of older players, it will take a fertile dose of imagination and creativity to make a deal. Since I've got both, I've come up with a wild four-team deal that may or may not work under the yet-to-be-determined new collective bargaining agreement. Whatever the case, the salaries are close enough to be within the realm of possibility.
The four teams are Dallas, the Milwaukee Bucks, New Jersey Nets and Utah Jazz.
I wanted to add Dwight Howard to the Mavericks, but Tyson Chandler and Roddy Beaubois weren't enough to get it done. So I turned my attention to superstar point guard Deron Williams, a Dallas native.
Wait, isn't Williams staying in New Jersey/Brooklyn? Well, the Nets' plan to lure Howard to the Northeast failed, so D-Will, faced with the prospect of playing lottery-ball for the rest of his career, began looking elsewhere. Enter the Mavericks, who think (rightly) that D-Will and Dirk can keep them in title contention.
While I hate to give up Chandler, who was so critical to the 2011 championship run, I must send him to the Nets to get D-Will. Not enough for the Nets? That's why I've brought Milwaukee to the party. Can you say Brandon Jennings?
While the Bucks like "Young Money" (is that still his nickname?), the NYC metro area likes him even more, especially after he bounced the ball off a poor fella's head in a summer run at New York's Dyckman Park. If the Nets can't keep D-Will to lead their charge into Brooklyn, they'll settle for Jennings, whose street cred and improving game will be a big draw.
Jennings and Chandler, who'll form an exciting alley-oop tandem, is a nice start, but if I'm the Nets I want even more. Enter Utah. With Derrick Favors and first-round pick Enes Kanter on the roster, Paul Millsap is now expendable. So I'll send him to Jersey.
OK, I know this is getting confusing now, so here's the four-team breakdown:
Dallas: The Mavericks send Chandler to New Jersey and Beaubois to Milwaukee to get D-Will from New Jersey. They also send Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer to Utah, and re-sign free agent Jason Terry. Starting five: D-Will, Jason Terry, Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Brendan Haywood.
New Jersey: The Nets send Williams to Dallas and Brook Lopez to Milwaukee in exchange for Milwaukee's Jennings, Dallas' Chandler and Utah's Millsap. Starting five: Jennings, Marshon Brooks, Millsap, Kris Humphries, Chandler.
Milwaukee: Jennings, of course, goes to New Jersey/Brooklyn, but the Bucks also move the disgruntled Andrew Bogut, sending him back to Utah (where he starred in college) and making him the Jazz's new center. The Bucks also send a first-round draft pick to Utah. They get back Beaubois, Utah's Al Jefferson and Jersey's Lopez. Starting five: Beaubois, Stephen Jackson, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Jefferson, Lopez.
Utah: Millsap goes to NJ/Brooklyn and Jefferson goes to Milwaukee for Bogut, Brewer, Fernandez, a Bucks first-round pick and $3 million cash from Milwaukee. Starting five: Devin Harris, Alec Burks, C.J. Miles, Favors, Bogut.
That may seem like one complicated trade, but it's also one that could lead to Dallas' maintaining title-contender status. For an aging team like the Mavs, making a bold move to add a star like Williams could be necessary for them to stay at the top of the NBA.
How the **** does this guy have a job?
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:19 pm
by trwi7
So we give up Jennings, Bogut, a 1st and $3 million and get back Beaubois, Al Jeff and Lopez? WTF?
He also has Millsap starting at SF for the Nets. LMAO, does this tard watch basketball?
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:28 pm
by mattg
the NBA2K11 trade finder makes more realistic trades than that..
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:33 pm
by JayMKE
lol how did this guy get on ESPN?
i thought this was a bleacher report article.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:36 pm
by fightingfury
Lol. Try again Mr Bonner. Actually, please don't.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:23 am
by ClassicJack
JayMKE wrote:i thought this was a bleacher report article.
That's really how it came off to me too. Just terrible.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:18 am
by Prince12
I wish I had his job..what a joke
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:09 am
by Sauce Boss
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Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:54 am
by What
the Bucks also move the disgruntled Andrew Bogut
That's quite an exaggeration. He's not disgruntled, he just realized the Bucks suck. balls.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:21 am
by Sigra
The Nets would be anal raped and the Bucks would be regular raped if this hapens.
Terrible
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:37 am
by BC_
Journalist maths:
Great trade for big readership market - Terrible trade for low readership market = Readership goes up
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:27 pm
by AussieBuck
Bogut should be disgruntled. I know I am after 6 years, not sure why he isn't. Oh and worst professionally written article ever.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:42 pm
by vlietinho
AussieBuck wrote:Bogut should be disgruntled. I know I am after 6 years, not sure why he isn't..
70 mil?
Ridiculous trade btw
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:56 pm
by yoyomayoma
FYI - This is an article by Chris Broussard.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:29 pm
by The Wet Whistle
Good deal imo
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:40 pm
by Kerb Hohl
I am in that "trade Bogut to start over for basically anything" camp, but I'd turn down this steaming pile of crap.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:16 pm
by -Kees-
Haha we end up with the horrible defensive front court of Jefferson and Lopez.
Oh and somehow the Mavs come away from this with the best player and give crap lol
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:47 pm
by Badgerlander
LMAO
I think the articles just keep getting worse the longer the lockout lasts, what an awful trade.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:20 pm
by smooth 'lil balla
i'm not one to pile on, but yea, that's horrible journalism.
The Mavs somehow end up getting Deron Williams by trading a bunch or role players. Also, please explain with the BUCKS, yet the BUCKS, had to throw in a first round pick for the right to trade anything better than what they received.
Re: Chris Bonner's awful trade proposal
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:07 am
by MajorDad
how come you guys read his entire rambling article and then say my posts are toooooooooo long? and stop reading my posts after the second sentence?
what was his premise? to improve the Mavs. Did his proposal do that? yes it did. Was his target audience the bucks? no it wasn't. the vast majority of people who read his column will think it's a great trade proposal. he's done his job and made the majority of his readers happy. his boss will give him a raise.
if his readership was primarily from Milwaukee, i would suspect jennings would still end up in new jersey, Williams would end up in Milwaukee, Bogut would still go to utah and somehow mo Williams would end up in dallas as a total shocker even to his current team. milwaukee would end up with either lopez or jefferson, and the first round picks from both NJ and utah! which we would trade to the clippers for their unpotected first round pick which will be the #1 pick in the next draft. So the bucks get the overall #1 pick, Williams and jefferson or lopez for jennings and bogut.
but realistically, if the cap falls even to $55 mil, teams are going to be very hard pressed to make any trades involving their star players unless equal dollars and also equal years are involved. the days of the $15 mil player will be replaced with more rookies starting and more second round picks being used as bench players over guys like Cardinal, Zaza, Foster, and Gadzuric. Second round picks will become very valuable.
it wasn't a bad trade proposal or bad journalism. it was just a proposal that didn't favor the bucks. to be truthful, i've never seen a trade proposal made by a non bucks fan that ever favored the bucks. I've never read any national columnist making any proposal l that would favor the bucks. All the proposals I ever read are ones to make Orlando, Lakers, Knicks, Celtics and Mavs better. And this proposal is right there with all the rest I've read. What I find odd is that this proposal comes from a guy at ESPN and it didn't include the Celtics, knicks or Red Sox as part of the trade Scenario. before getting all uptight, consider the source and his target audience!