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Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 46 - We went to OKC

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:45 pm
by Ayt
drew881 wrote:Can we also build Kevin Durant? Missing one minor piece to this puzzle...


How about a 7-2 Durant?

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:52 pm
by JayMKE
Unless he pays for a new arena, I can't see this ending well. The guy already moved one franchise. Just because he lives in Chicago, doesn't mean he'll have any loyalty to Milwaukee. A billionaire like him could commute to games across the country every night if he wanted too.

He's from the Virginia area, Virginia Beach has been making rumblings about wanting a team...

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:13 am
by raferfenix
If a sale is part of an arena deal, wouldn't that lock the Bucks into Milwaukee for some numbers of years?

I assume that would be a primary negotiation point, especially for whoever else is buying into the arena.

And his track record of trying to get a team in the Chicago-area makes me feel better about this too:
Heisley also made it clear when news of the sale emerged in June that he might not have taken that step if his dream of the Grizzlies becoming the second NBA team in the Chicago area had materialized.

Buying the Bucks would give Heisley a very-close-to-home route back into the league he loves, after those long-ago attempts to convince the league that Chicago was big enough for two NBA franchises proved unsuccessful.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:50 am
by gbmb34
He's really cheap and a meddler. He'd be worse than Kohl IMO. But if the team needs his capital to stay and Kohl's remaining capital to build an arena, what choice do we have?

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:34 am
by emunney
Haha, of course. Out of the frying pan and into the **** volcano.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:38 am
by AussieBuck
emunney wrote:Haha, of course. Out of the frying pan and into the **** volcano.

This is the guy who got excited when he discovered that he didn't have to pay his first round picks the full amount teams pay them as standard right?

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:43 am
by emunney
AussieBuck wrote:
emunney wrote:Haha, of course. Out of the frying pan and into the **** volcano.

This is the guy who got excited when he discovered that he didn't have to pay his first round picks the full amount teams pay them as standard right?


Yes. Resulted in a hold out.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:59 pm
by Treebeard
If I recall correctly, Clay Bennet at first, told the Seattle folks all the things they wanted to hear, and then proceeded with his intent to move the Sonics. I could easily see Heisley doing the same.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:06 pm
by EastSideBucksFan
I'm not excited about a potential Heisley purchase.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:04 am
by VooDoo7
Heisley? Blah..

Give me this guy.

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Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:53 am
by kanyon
Not really trusting him... just because the NBA doesn't think Chicago could have two teams at the time... what about after Stern retires? Or as mentioned, Virginia Beach might want a team again.... Or Vancouver or Kansas City... whatever.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:15 am
by trwi7
I really doubt Heisley would move the Bucks to Vancouver.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:41 am
by Thunder Muscle
EastSideBucksFan wrote:I'm not excited about a potential Heisley purchase.


+1

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:44 am
by paulpressey25
trwi7 wrote:I really doubt Heisley would move the Bucks to Vancouver.



Kohl will not sell to the guy unless he gets agreement to keep the team here for at least ten years. And the only way Heisley agrees to that is with a new arena deal. Then we have an arena lease that they really can't get out of for a long time.

Kohl can't guarantee them here forever, but I think he can for at least ten years with a new arena deal. That's about all we can ask.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:45 am
by Max Green
I'd rather Kohl keep the team then sell it to Heisley.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:51 am
by paulpressey25
Max Green wrote:I'd rather Kohl keep the team then sell it to Heisley.


I don't see Heisley as a great owner or great scenario. But the current Memphi squad is his.

And that 50 win team for a few years with Pau, Hubie and Jerry West was his. They've had more success than us.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:11 am
by emunney
paulpressey25 wrote:
Max Green wrote:I'd rather Kohl keep the team then sell it to Heisley.


I don't see Heisley as a great owner or great scenario. But the current Memphi squad is his.

And that 50 win team for a few years with Pau, Hubie and Jerry West was his. They've had more success than us.


The one thing about Heisley is he's always willing to go cheap and tank. Yet they made it out of the first round once in 17 years, and never made a conference final. This year's team may be the best he's had.

And also Joerger.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:25 am
by RandyBreuer
Oh my, If only Menard and Kohler were basketball fans.
Maybe Heisley would build an arena in Waukegan.

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:49 am
by VooDoo7
emunney wrote:

And also Joerger.

I want him in the worst way.

(no homo)

Re: Kohl/Arena Discussion-(Big update pg 51 - Heisley rumor)

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:31 am
by trwi7
RandyBreuer wrote:Oh my, If only Menard and Kohler were basketball fans.
Maybe Heisley would build an arena in Waukegan.


Uhhh, Kohler has season tickets. Or at least he did.