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LUKE23 wrote:DrugBust wrote:Be pissed that the $WAG twins are still on the team. That's what I read when I see people bitching about the current state of the team.
I'm pissed at that and giving up young assets for soon to be 29 year old FA, non-star shooting guards, for the right to get stomped by Miami.
Scoops wrote:europa wrote:MikeIsGood wrote:He's also just "good," and he's he's hit his ceiling.
Yeah let's not make Redick out to be more than he is.
Let's do that with Tobias though, k.
ReddWing wrote:Being a fan of this team is tantamount to being in hell...There is no Christ that is coming to save us. Even if there was, we'd trade him for a 28 year old wing.
Scoops wrote:europa wrote:MikeIsGood wrote:He's also just "good," and he's he's hit his ceiling.
Yeah let's not make Redick out to be more than he is.
Let's do that with Tobias though, k.
DrugBust wrote:Ayon has shown more in his first two years in the league and he's got size on his side.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."
I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
emunney wrote:It's inconceivable to you that the player picked 15th this year will be better than the player picked 19th two years ago?
FrieAaron wrote:I like the trade. I'm disappointed we couldn't do Ellis for Smith, but I couldn't understand why the Hawks would even consider that in the first place.
It without a doubt makes us better right now, and since it's going to be hard to go that much further down the standings this year I may as well enjoy watching a better team the rest of the season. After this year it gives us the flexibility of either signing JJ to a reasonable contract or walk and free up a good chunk of cap space when Monta (hopefully) walks as well.
DrugBust wrote:Be pissed that the $WAG twins are still on the team. That's what I read when I see people bitching about the current state of the team.
MikeIsGood wrote:paul wrote:You don't have to hate Redick to hate this trade, many will know I've long been a fan of his.
I'd love to rationalize it but I've got nothing, this was short sighted garbage. Again.
Sidenote - props to you and the other Aussie fans for continuing to put up with this organization. Most of us are forced into it because we're Wisconsinites who hate fair-weather fans and want their home-state team to do well. You guys are a rare breed.
LUKE23 wrote:FrieAaron wrote:I like the trade. I'm disappointed we couldn't do Ellis for Smith, but I couldn't understand why the Hawks would even consider that in the first place.
It without a doubt makes us better right now, and since it's going to be hard to go that much further down the standings this year I may as well enjoy watching a better team the rest of the season. After this year it gives us the flexibility of either signing JJ to a reasonable contract or walk and free up a good chunk of cap space when Monta (hopefully) walks as well.
Over 30 games, this probably adds one win over what we get with Udrih. Two on a good day.
paul wrote:Honestly this one's just about done me in, I don't have a lot of fight left in me.
LUKE23 wrote:europa wrote:The Bucks currently have the 15th pick in the draft. The idea that Harris at age 20 given his already proven NBA post scoring skills isn't at the very least equal to a player who will be picked in that range next summer is one I cannot in any way agree with.
Yep. I wouldn't even put it at 50% likelihood we get a better player with the pick.
paulpressey25 wrote:But for many of us, we aren't then comforted by the idea that we now have the inside track to signing JJ Redick to a 4-year/$32 million dollar deal this summer.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:LUKE23 wrote:Yep. I wouldn't even put it at 50% likelihood we get a better player with the pick.
i like how you used a % in your comment to make it sound like you ran some metric on that or something
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:LUKE23 wrote:europa wrote:The Bucks currently have the 15th pick in the draft. The idea that Harris at age 20 given his already proven NBA post scoring skills isn't at the very least equal to a player who will be picked in that range next summer is one I cannot in any way agree with.
Yep. I wouldn't even put it at 50% likelihood we get a better player with the pick.
i like how you used a % in your comment to make it sound like you ran some metric on that or something
could you tell me next what % we have in 2 years of getting a better player in the 2nd round than doron lamb?
bottom line is its VERY possible we got the best prospect in this deal with this ayon character. hes a big and he produced as a rookie starter... so whats the % likelihood that hes the only guy in this deal not named redick with a 10 year career in this league.
i liked harris. i think he'll put up some nice numbers in orlando. theres a strong chance that hes a poor mans marshawn brooks redux tho. and thats a fact. im not going to put a % on it tho. me personally....i dont have a metric for that.
europa wrote:paul wrote:Honestly this one's just about done me in, I don't have a lot of fight left in me.
Join the club my friend. I'm gonna get my vent on tonight but I'm pretty much beaten down at this point.
humanrefutation wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:But for many of us, we aren't then comforted by the idea that we now have the inside track to signing JJ Redick to a 4-year/$32 million dollar deal this summer.
Even if you like Redick, how do we have an "inside track?" We are in the same position as every other team in the league - the same position we would have been if we made a push for him in the offseason.
