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Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:14 am
by EastSideBucksFan
http://nypost.com/2014/06/28/denied-pro ... ith-bucks/

Apparently Jason Kidd isn’t satisfied with just coaching, but he’ll have to be if he stays with the Nets.

According to a league source, Kidd recently approached ownership with a series of demands, including the role of overseeing the Nets’ basketball operations department in addition to his head coaching responsibilities. The source said Kidd didn’t want general manager Billy King to be dismissed, but wanted to be given a title and placed above him in the organizational hierarchy.

Ownership declined to grant Kidd that kind of power, which is rare for any coach in the league to have. The source said ownership felt Kidd wasn’t ready for that kind of responsibility after having only one year of coaching experience — the team finished his first season on the bench with a 44-38 record, good for sixth in the Eastern Conference — and allowed Kidd to seek other opportunities.

The franchise then was approached by the Bucks for permission to speak with Kidd about the prospect of hiring him, and the Nets granted permission.

Bucks coach Larry Drew just completed his first season in Milwaukee after the team hired him last summer following his contract expiring with Atlanta.

Kidd did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Bucks, long one of the league’s moribund franchises, has been injected with new life after the sale of the team from its longtime owner, Sen. Herb Kohl, for $550 million to New York investment firm executives Wes Edens and Marc Lasry, who is a good friend of Kidd, in mid-May.

Milwaukee selected Duke star Jabari Parker with the second overall pick in Thursday’s draft at, ironically, Barclays Center in Brooklyn, pairing him with rookie Giannis Antetokounmpo to give them two exciting young forwards to build around.

Holding the dual roles of both coaching a team and overseeing basketball operations is rare in the NBA, with only San Antonio’s Gregg Popovich, Detroit’s Stan Van Gundy, Minnesota’s Flip Saunders and the Clippers’ Doc Rivers currently holding both roles. Van Gundy and Saunders assumed their roles this offseason.

The Nets hired Kidd last June less than a month after he retired from a stellar 19-year Hall of Fame career in which he spent six-plus seasons with the franchise, leading them to a pair of Finals appearances and establishing himself as the best player in the franchise’s NBA history.

Kidd endured a rocky start, including a 10-21 record through the opening two months of the season and the “re-assignment” to filing daily reports of assistant coach Lawrence Frank — who had signed a six-year contract worth roughly $1 million on average last summer after being pursued by his former point guard with the Nets. Kidd turned things around after the start of 2014, leading Brooklyn to a 34-17 record from Jan. 1 through the end of the regular season.

The decision to swap out Shaun Livingston for Alan Anderson in Games 6 and 7 was a deciding factor in the Nets’ comeback from a 3-2 deficit to advance to the Eastern Conference semifinals, where they eventually lost to the Heat in five games.

Kidd was on hand at the unveiling of the site of the team’s new practice facility in Brooklyn on Thursday, and spoke at length about the state of the franchise. He expressed a desire for the franchise to re-sign free agents Paul Pierce, Shaun Livingston, Alan Anderson and Andray Blatche.

He also said he would be with the team this week in Orlando, where the Nets’ Summer League team will begin practicing ahead of its first game Saturday morning. Unlike last summer, however, when Kidd coached several games, he said assistant coach Sean Sweeney would run the team.


President of Basketball operations or coach, not exactly clear

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:17 am
by SpottedBadger
I think this would be a big mistake.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:19 am
by VooDoo7
I definitely don't want him as coach. No thanks.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:20 am
by No-Man
WAIT... WAT?

I mean... if it's for Drew... can't be bad, right? If it means Hambone and Drew out and Kidd in...

Kidd is a sexy name at least.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:20 am
by Baddy Chuck
How bout you prove you're a good head coach before we start talking about asset management for you Kidd. You don't get a spilled drink timeout to help clean up your mistakes at GM.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:22 am
by Hofbraunhaus
Don't really want Kidd as a coach but the one positive from this is that it looks like Drew and Hammonds may be gone after all.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:23 am
by WeekapaugGroove
Weird for sure. I hate Hammond and drew but can't say I would be stoked to hand over a ton of control to kidd. Hire a smart analytics oriented gm and a ball movement and running type coach.

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Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:25 am
by VooDoo7
Lasry and Edens...get your heads out of your behinds. Ugh.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:25 am
by SpottedBadger
Baddy Chuck wrote:How bout you prove you're a good head coach before we start talking about asset management for you Kidd. You don't get a spilled drink timeout to help clean up your mistakes at GM.

The San Antonio Spurs. The Oklahoma City Thunder. The Houston Rockets. The Brooklyn Nets. What's the difference?

The first three were all organically built through the draft and asset collection by the hands of extremely smart and analytical executives. The Brooklyn Nets woefully underperformed at the hands of a Russian oligarch that straight up hemorrhaged money and draft picks.

What would Jason Kidd bring as a coach? Why would there even be interest in him as a coach let alone as a unilateral power broker in team decision making?

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:27 am
by No-Man
Baddy Chuck wrote:How bout you prove you're a good head coach before we start talking about asset management for you Kidd. You don't get a spilled drink timeout to help clean up your mistakes at GM.

the thing is he has Billy King as a GM, I understand him, I think a donkey could do a better job than King.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:28 am
by blazza18
Jason Kidd for point guard, anything other than that I disagree with.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:29 am
by zjl3
This is a step in the right direction. I think he deserves the chance to interview with the team. Whether or not he will be the most qualified candidate, or has a good interview with the team, remain to be seen. I trust that our ownership group will put forth due diligence.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:30 am
by emunney
What in hell.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:30 am
by Licensed to Il
One of Lasry and Edens used to be a minority owner of the Nets. So there is some familiarity amongst the characters here to make this story plausible.

I am interested in Kidd as a coach. Don't want him as a GM.

The more play this story gets, the less likely it is that Hammond and Drew are back.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:30 am
by JoeJohnson2two
I trust Lasry and Edens. If they feel Kidd is worthy of a job then why the hell not? At worst, it's a big name that gets butts in the seats.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:31 am
by bizarro
Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Paul. Wow. I don't even know what to think. I give Kidd credit for handling the Nets the way he did last year, actually. They were a complete trainwreck. Then, they completely turned it around. He really managed rotational minutes quite effectively given limited talent and aged talent across the board. Plumlee really came into his own and received ample playing time. Livingston had his best season in quite some time (ever?). He got solid rotational minutes from Anderson. And, maybe, I'm seeing the rosier side of things because I believe anything is better than Coach Larry Drew. I can't even fathom they'd bring him in as head of basketball operations. I mean, right?!?

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:33 am
by Wonka
This is the absolute last thing I expected to hear today. I really don't even know what to say at the moment. :o

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:33 am
by Slackstring701
this is bonkers

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:33 am
by randy84
Not thrilled with Kidd, but good to know that the owners are looking for a new GM and/or coach.

Re: Nets grant Bucks permission to talk with Jason Kidd

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:34 am
by PedroGrande
Wait what?

I am holding to the fact that maybe he is/was using our interest to get more power and it backfired and there isn't a real interest. He wants to be HC and President of BO? I don't know... I'm not thrilled about it...