Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[Matches Malone]

Windhorst just said we were in major trade talks to send out OJ Mayo and reshape the roster before all of this happened.

Yeah, I heard that too. What's that all about?

[JayMKE]

Windhorst just said we were in major trade talks to send out OJ Mayo and reshape the roster before all of this happened.

I'm sure the phone was ringing off the hook for OJ

[Wisky3]

Windhorst just said we were in major trade talks to send out OJ Mayo and reshape the roster before all of this happened.

I just heard that also and was going to post if anything heard any rumblings

[mchase27]

wow it seems like Lasry and Eden really duped Milwaukee fans. So much for following Spurs/OKC model. This is basically just trying to get a well known name.

OKC model is asset collection, building through draft, player development, sustainability, analytics.

And hiring an idiot for a coach.

[emunney]

Their is no way Kidd is worse than what we had. My goodness, we were 15-67 last year! This is something like Hammond's 6th year and this was his worst year yet. I'm tired of mediocrity and it's time for the Bucks to go big or go home. This is the most excited I have been for the Bucks in years. It's almost unimaginable that at a time when the big three in Miami have all decided to opt out of their contracts that of all teams, the Bucks are the hot topic.

How is this 'going big'? Would it be 'going big' to hire any HoF player? Ask Kareem if he'd do it.

Spoiler:

Kareem would do it all night.

Going big is poaching somebody who's had great success in that job. Calling up Sam Presti, Daryl Morey, RC Buford and saying, "Whatever they're paying, we'll double it." That's going big. This is not going big.

Let's say you own a restaurant and you have an amazing waiter. For a decade, he's just unbelievable. People come to your restaurant just for the service. He's that good. Finally, he gets promoted to shift manager. After a rocky transition, he's pretty good. But after a year, he suddenly shows up in your office and demands to run the restaurant and cook all the food. His argument: "Go big or go home."

None of those guys are realistic, the only reason the Nets are allowing us to talk to Kidd is because the bridges have been burned over there. You think the compensation for Kidd is going to be bad? Imagine what we'd have to give up to any of those guys who would never in a million years leave their current job for ours.

I take it you're not in favor of going big. Neither am I. I'm just giving examples of what it would actually mean. The difference, though, between compensation for those guys and compensation for Jason Kidd is that those guys have actually done things that could logically justify the compensation it'd take to get them.

[Aaron It Out]

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Windhorst reporting Bucks actively shopping O.J. Mayo.

[SkilesTheLimit]

Remember the people who said that L&E made their combined billions in their professions due to dirty, behind-the-scenes wheeling and dealing?

Hmm...

[SkilesTheLimit]

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twelve point courier ‏@tpcourier 3m
Windhorst reporting Bucks OJ Mayo actively shopping for junk food

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[humanrefutation]

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twelve point courier ‏@tpcourier 3m
Windhorst reporting Bucks OJ Mayo actively shopping for junk food

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[emunney]

You'd hire a retread from some other failed team.

Where did I ever say that?

My first call though would be to Junior Bridgeman to see if he'd consider the job as part of a career change. Then I'd call Popovich and RC Buford and fly down there to have lunch with them and ask them who they think the bright minds are around the league right now.

This is a joke. You guys need to stop with these fan fantasy scenarios.

Anyway, Kidd's power play was ludicrous, but it's not like Billy King is some mastermind that should never be usurped.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/483111544784318465[/tweet]

Honestly?

[Zeezprah]

Remember the people who said that L&E made their combined billions in their professions due to dirty, behind-the-scenes wheeling and dealing?

Hmm...

i don't really see how this is anything shady..

lis, it's just lasry hiring his friend. he prolly thinks it's a grand idea.


one thing that bugs me about this, is i can totally see kidd as a "feel" type of guy like so many former players are. like "shabazz napier should go in the lottery cause he valiantly brought his team to the championship". i really wanted this front office filled with basketball stat nerds. ones who use scouting AND hard statistics to make decisions.

[humanrefutation]

Windhorst just said we were in major trade talks to send out OJ Mayo and reshape the roster before all of this happened.

Yeah, I heard that too. What's that all about?

Well, there were rumbles that we were trying to get another pick in the draft. That obviously didn't happen. Maybe that's what Windhorst was referring to.

Either way, free agency starts in a couple days. I don't like the idea of bringing in a guy with no GM experience with only a couple days to prepare.

[Chuck Diesel]

Let's put our heads together and come up with a list of presidential candidates worth interviewing.

[Wooderson]

Remember the people who said that L&E made their combined billions in their professions due to dirty, behind-the-scenes wheeling and dealing?

Hmm...

i don't really see how this is anything shady..

lis, it's just lasry hiring his friend. he prolly thinks it's a grand idea.


one thing that bugs me about this, is i can totally see kidd as a "feel" type of guy like so many former players are. like "shabazz napier should go in the lottery cause he valiantly brought his team to the championship". i really wanted this front office filled with basketball stat nerds. ones who use scouting AND hard statistics to make decisions.

He's likely referring to the possibility Kidd intentionally sabotaged his relationship with the Nets because he had a deal lined up with the Bucks

[Scraptor]

This would be an unfathomably bad hire.

I have read your board a lot over the past several years and I know how you feel about Hammond, but at least he knew how to draft. Kidd is such a wildcard. It's probable he doesn't know his way around the CBA, let alone adding value through scouting.

You guys would be better off with any number of other front office guys imo.

[humanrefutation]

Where did I ever say that?

My first call though would be to Junior Bridgeman to see if he'd consider the job as part of a career change. Then I'd call Popovich and RC Buford and fly down there to have lunch with them and ask them who they think the bright minds are around the league right now.

This is a joke. You guys need to stop with these fan fantasy scenarios.

Anyway, Kidd's power play was ludicrous, but it's not like Billy King is some mastermind that should never be usurped.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/483111544784318465[/tweet]

Honestly?

It's not like it's a profound sentiment. I said as much in the other thread. But if he did copy and paste that...

[BigDoggyStyle]

Not related but this is the happening thread

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He must be showing Parker around Milwaukee.

[blazza18]

Where did I ever say that?

My first call though would be to Junior Bridgeman to see if he'd consider the job as part of a career change. Then I'd call Popovich and RC Buford and fly down there to have lunch with them and ask them who they think the bright minds are around the league right now.

This is a joke. You guys need to stop with these fan fantasy scenarios.

Anyway, Kidd's power play was ludicrous, but it's not like Billy King is some mastermind that should never be usurped.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/483111544784318465[/tweet]

Honestly?

[[MIKE C]]

But we have to assume he would be agreeing to follow the owner's vision if they are hiring him.

The problem with that thought is that everything Jason Kidd has done his entire basketball career has been following HIS vision as it relates to his personal and professional relationships.

Yea, I'm not a fan of Kidd as a person, but Lasry and Edens still have the power here. They have been saying and doing all the right things so far. I find it hard to believe they would blindly hire someone and give him carte blanche do to whatever he wants, even if it conflicts with their vision.

[emunney]

This is a joke. You guys need to stop with these fan fantasy scenarios.

Anyway, Kidd's power play was ludicrous, but it's not like Billy King is some mastermind that should never be usurped.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/483111544784318465[/tweet]

Honestly?

It's not like it's a profound sentiment. I said as much in the other thread. But if he did copy and paste that...

Come on. If?