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eagle13 wrote:I really like Middleton but I'd trade him to Jazz (with Delfino) for Burks. Jazz needs a SF and has many SGs having resigned Hayward and drafted Hood. Burks still offers good size at 6'6 but is more mobile. Khris might not be able to keep him with quicker SGs? Anyway Burks' TS, PER > Middleton.
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
LUKE23 wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:I don't think Melo was ever close to 20% body fat like Redd and Deron. Pierce might have been close, but Parker looks to be in that zone already and he's only 19. And of course there are always going to be some examples of guys who have long careers despite not being real lean, but nobody can deny that carrying an extra 10-15 lbs. of fat makes it far more likely that you will have knee and ankle problems. The fact that there are exceptions in no way changes that.
I don't know where you pulled 20% from other than your ass. The only rumored amounts since he wasn't at the combine were 11% (at 255 pounds at the Bucks workout).
coolhandluke121 wrote:I don't really see how Bayless fits in. Either you're tanking or you're trying to make the playoffs. How does he fit in either way?
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
AussieBuck wrote:The NBA must have their very own crazy body fat% index because the standard numbers they put out are about half of a credible percentage.
emunney wrote:AussieBuck wrote:The NBA must have their very own crazy body fat% index because the standard numbers they put out are about half of a credible percentage.
They round down to the closest 12%.
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
coolhandluke121 wrote:
I did pull it out of my ass, but that doesn't take away from the point I'm making. Just looked it up, and Redd peaked at 14%. That's still atrocious. I said "close to 20%" and "Parker looks to be in that zone already" so it's just a matter of semantics to zero in on the percentage I gave and harp on that.
Besides, 14% IS close to 20% for an NBA player. The important thing is not the exact number but the fact that they're all carrying a lot more body fat than what's ideal for an NBA player. You never see soccer players that fat, because there's no way they can hide. Basketball's a similar game in terms of pace and conditioning, but in basketball they can play well on offense and try to hide on defense. It's not obvious by watching the game how much they hurt their team, so they get away with it. But they shouldn't. Guys like Redd slip under the radar, but they clearly hurt their team because of their poor conditioning. It's not a good sign for Parker to already have questions about his body fat at age 19. It's ridiculous to even have to argue about it.
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
LUKE23 wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:
I did pull it out of my ass, but that doesn't take away from the point I'm making. Just looked it up, and Redd peaked at 14%. That's still atrocious. I said "close to 20%" and "Parker looks to be in that zone already" so it's just a matter of semantics to zero in on the percentage I gave and harp on that.
Besides, 14% IS close to 20% for an NBA player. The important thing is not the exact number but the fact that they're all carrying a lot more body fat than what's ideal for an NBA player. You never see soccer players that fat, because there's no way they can hide. Basketball's a similar game in terms of pace and conditioning, but in basketball they can play well on offense and try to hide on defense. It's not obvious by watching the game how much they hurt their team, so they get away with it. But they shouldn't. Guys like Redd slip under the radar, but they clearly hurt their team because of their poor conditioning. It's not a good sign for Parker to already have questions about his body fat at age 19. It's ridiculous to even have to argue about it.
No, what's ridiculous is you making a comment on his body fat with zero evidence to back it, then posting the jibberish above to try and justify said comment. Like I said, find any tangible evidence, either posted numbers or pictures that can be tied to specific years/numbers, then we can talk. But he is nowhere near 20 right now and that isn't even debatable.
Also, as I said, I think he should get one year on a NBA program before we start comparing him to Redd. It was clear Redd didn't work hard on his body outside of the Olympic Team year. Work ethics vary. But there is no way he is double what Melo or Tobias were coming out, let alone more than that. Your definition of "zone" is obviously far different than mine.
emunney wrote:I've learned today that when you have 25% body fat, your right nipple tries to escape.
Also was the guy at 20% wearing an underwire?
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
coolhandluke121 wrote:
He's FAT for a 19-year-old NBA player. If you can't see that and can't see the point I'm trying to make, then you're being deliberately obtuse.
