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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#921 » by chile » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:12 pm

I saw an article headline about Bally's offering a streaming option for their regional sports networks. They were mentioning it would be available 1st half of 2022.

Right now I have YoutubeTV with no Bucks game. I think if this becomes a legit option I could get rid of YoutubeTV then? But I would still need to get local channels, TNT, ESPN, etc... any other suggestions cheaper than YoutubeTV?
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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#922 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:24 pm

chile wrote:I saw an article headline about Bally's offering a streaming option for their regional sports networks. They were mentioning it would be available 1st half of 2022.

Right now I have YoutubeTV with no Bucks game. I think if this becomes a legit option I could get rid of YoutubeTV then? But I would still need to get local channels, TNT, ESPN, etc... any other suggestions cheaper than YoutubeTV?

Sports is always the sticking point. It's virtually the only thing I always watch live. If Bally's starts a stand alone streaming service that's big. I imagine they would do it with all of their channels. One problem is Sinclair owns the channels (Bally's just pays for naming rights). And from what I understand the major sports leagues hate Sinclair and don't want to work with them on any streaming deals. They'd rather do it themselves. Here's an article about what MLB wants to do. You'd be able to stream games, including local games for $10-$20 a month. The article says the NBA and NHL are interested in partnering with MLB

https://www.nexttv.com/news/mlb-may-brush-back-sinclair-with-its-own-streaming-service-report

Here's another thing, the big cable companies don't want local sports streamed and they have some pull. Hey Sinclair, you want to stream your Bally's networks? Ok then we're going to drop you completely.

So it's a mess right now. If I could legally stream all Bucks and Brewers games, and be able to pause, rewind, etc... as I can now, I'd probably drop Spectrum.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#923 » by chile » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:59 pm

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chile wrote:I saw an article headline about Bally's offering a streaming option for their regional sports networks. They were mentioning it would be available 1st half of 2022.

Right now I have YoutubeTV with no Bucks game. I think if this becomes a legit option I could get rid of YoutubeTV then? But I would still need to get local channels, TNT, ESPN, etc... any other suggestions cheaper than YoutubeTV?

Sports is always the sticking point. It's virtually the only thing I always watch live. If Bally's starts a stand alone streaming service that's big. I imagine they would do it with all of their channels. One problem is Sinclair owns the channels (Bally's just pays for naming rights). And from what I understand the major sports leagues hate Sinclair and don't want to work with them on any streaming deals. They'd rather do it themselves. Here's an article about what MLB wants to do. You'd be able to stream games, including local games for $10-$20 a month. The article says the NBA and NHL are interested in partnering with MLB

https://www.nexttv.com/news/mlb-may-brush-back-sinclair-with-its-own-streaming-service-report

Here's another thing, the big cable companies don't want local sports streamed and they have some pull. Hey Sinclair, you want to stream your Bally's networks? Ok then we're going to drop you completely.

So it's a mess right now. If I could legally stream all Bucks and Brewers games, and be able to pause, rewind, etc... as I can now, I'd probably drop Spectrum.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2022/01/13/milwaukee-bucks-sinclair-streaming-content.html

Found the article I was looking for. Maybe I misunderstood it but looked like you could stream the regional sports networks all by themselves.
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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#924 » by crkone » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:11 pm

chile wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
chile wrote:I saw an article headline about Bally's offering a streaming option for their regional sports networks. They were mentioning it would be available 1st half of 2022.

Right now I have YoutubeTV with no Bucks game. I think if this becomes a legit option I could get rid of YoutubeTV then? But I would still need to get local channels, TNT, ESPN, etc... any other suggestions cheaper than YoutubeTV?

Sports is always the sticking point. It's virtually the only thing I always watch live. If Bally's starts a stand alone streaming service that's big. I imagine they would do it with all of their channels. One problem is Sinclair owns the channels (Bally's just pays for naming rights). And from what I understand the major sports leagues hate Sinclair and don't want to work with them on any streaming deals. They'd rather do it themselves. Here's an article about what MLB wants to do. You'd be able to stream games, including local games for $10-$20 a month. The article says the NBA and NHL are interested in partnering with MLB

https://www.nexttv.com/news/mlb-may-brush-back-sinclair-with-its-own-streaming-service-report

Here's another thing, the big cable companies don't want local sports streamed and they have some pull. Hey Sinclair, you want to stream your Bally's networks? Ok then we're going to drop you completely.

So it's a mess right now. If I could legally stream all Bucks and Brewers games, and be able to pause, rewind, etc... as I can now, I'd probably drop Spectrum.

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2022/01/13/milwaukee-bucks-sinclair-streaming-content.html

Found the article I was looking for. Maybe I misunderstood it but looked like you could stream the regional sports networks all by themselves.


Here's a good breakdown of the new info:

https://thestreamable.com/news/sinclairs-bally-sports-app-plans-has-two-major-flaws

As part of their $600 million fundraise for their new streaming service, Sinclair included projections for the service that give a hint on what they plan to charge.

In their first full year of operating the service (2023), without adding any additional teams to the service, the company expects $243 million in subscription revenue across 1.08 million subscribers. On average, that would mean a subscriber would be paying $225 per year to access the Bally Sports App – or $18.75 per month.

But don’t expect it to be that cheap.

The NBA and NHL seasons only last seven months, which would mean that at $225 per year, a subscriber would effectively be paying $32/month for the service – and that’s assuming they charge one fee per RSN, instead of a fee per team.

The company had been circulating a $23 a month price point for the Bally Sports DTC service as part of Sinclair’s fundraising efforts. That number was soundly denied by Sinclair CEO Chris Ripley in an interview with the Baltimore Business Journal.

He told the Wall Street Journal that it would be “consistent with some of the other premium sports services in the marketplace,” which would be right in line with $200 per year.

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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#925 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:19 pm

Sports leagues especially the NBA and MLB should absolutely go on their own for streaming including local games. In the long run it would be their best route but I imagine it's really really hard for them to give up those huge contracts they have with the RSNs for exclusive rights. That's more immediate and guaranteed money.

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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#926 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:30 am

Discovered a site a month or so ago that's a lot like sites we've probably all seen in the past ten years, that just had a **** ton of pirated TV shows and movies. I've used it a few times, whatever.

But it did hit me that I'm paying at least $200 a month in TV/Internet services, and the only thing I really need it for is sports, and it's incredibly easy to find streams for that too. I'm essentially paying hundreds for convenience and not having a delay when I'm watching something on the TV.

I'm very, very close to cancelling literally everything for a couple months and seeing how it goes.
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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#927 » by HurricaneKid » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:38 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Sports leagues especially the NBA and MLB should absolutely go on their own for streaming including local games. In the long run it would be their best route but I imagine it's really really hard for them to give up those huge contracts they have with the RSNs for exclusive rights. That's more immediate and guaranteed money.

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**** Sinclair. But holy **** is that a lot of money to the league.

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Re: OT: Cutting the Cord 2.0 The Tutorial 

Post#928 » by WRau1 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:49 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Discovered a site a month or so ago that's a lot like sites we've probably all seen in the past ten years, that just had a **** ton of pirated TV shows and movies. I've used it a few times, whatever.

But it did hit me that I'm paying at least $200 a month in TV/Internet services, and the only thing I really need it for is sports, and it's incredibly easy to find streams for that too. I'm essentially paying hundreds for convenience and not having a delay when I'm watching something on the TV.

I'm very, very close to cancelling literally everything for a couple months and seeing how it goes.


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