Khris Middleton Thread

BJ Sandered · Post #1941 » by **BJ Sandered** » Fri May 24, 2019 6:41 am

He's not worth the max.

Chuck Diesel · Post #1942 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Fri May 24, 2019 6:52 am

Joe Ingles type performance. Nothing to sneer at. Ingles might’ve hit a few more. Both very solid players, good teammates.

soxperry · Post #1943 » by **soxperry** » Fri May 24, 2019 9:27 am

Khris has a great shot and he's one of the few players on our team who can iso efficiently..

That said, he does not have elite athleticism. In fact, he's probably below average there. That really hurts against great defenders. He just can't get separation. Not even the little bit that he needs. He also can't really dribble. Maybe that shouldn't be as much of a problem but he tends to handle the ball a lot with Giannis off the court and in late game situations.

I love him as a shooter, but there is absolutely no way he is worth a max contract. If his body looks like this now, I want nothing to do with it in 3 or 4 seasons.

Coach Carter · Post #1944 » by **Coach Carter** » Fri May 24, 2019 1:50 pm

With giannis obviously still being very raw with his half court offense and kawhi paying him so well, as our best contact shooter, we needed khris to step up. He didn't. 18% game 3, 22% game 5 is appalling to say the least. Honestly i'd be embarrassed to accept 20m, let alone 25m. If we don't want to lose him for free, sign and look to trade him but only if the contract is tradable. Anything more than 25m, and we're screwed.

jute2003 · Post #1945 » by **jute2003** » Fri May 24, 2019 1:57 pm

He was so effective defensively in the first 2 games of this series. I was not impressed yesterday though. :-/

Zeezprah · Post #1946 » by **Zeezprah** » Fri May 24, 2019 1:59 pm

This is similar to the Jabari Parker situation for me.

Sucks to let a talent go for nothing, but I don’t see how he’s worth even close to what he’s going to command. His reputation has surpassed him game.

It’s sad, because I loved pre injury Middleton

I guess I offer him like 3/45, but that’s about it

DavidDunn21 · Post #1947 » by **DavidDunn21** » Sun May 26, 2019 4:56 am

Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.

Post #1948 » by **paulpressey25** » Sun May 26, 2019 4:59 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:Joe Ingles type performance. Nothing to sneer at. Ingles might’ve hit a few more. Both very solid players, good teammates.

This is the one time I’m hoping Mark “wild card” Lasry uses his new Governor powers and steps in. I.e. to veto a huge Middleton contact.

Chuck Diesel · Post #1949 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:12 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Joe Ingles type performance. Nothing to sneer at. Ingles might’ve hit a few more. Both very solid players, good teammates.

This is the one time I’m hoping Mark “wild card” Lasry uses his new Governor powers and steps in. I.e. to veto a huge Middleton contact.

I hear you but I have no reason to ever trust any Bucks palace intrigue. Past the point of caring. Just figure it out as a group, you know?

Rainwater · Post #1950 » by **Rainwater** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:20 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Joe Ingles type performance. Nothing to sneer at. Ingles might’ve hit a few more. Both very solid players, good teammates.

This is the one time I’m hoping Mark “wild card” Lasry uses his new Governor powers and steps in. I.e. to veto a huge Middleton contact.

The thing is you need him, what if another team offers him a huge contract?

xTitan · Post #1951 » by **xTitan** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:21 am

Middleton’s game is maddening, but right now is as good as it will ever get, terrible athlete,terrible finisher at the rim, loose with the balll....but an excellent shooter, when not up against a superior athlete who can defend.

Post #1952 » by **paulpressey25** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:25 am

Rainwater wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Joe Ingles type performance. Nothing to sneer at. Ingles might’ve hit a few more. Both very solid players, good teammates.

This is the one time I’m hoping Mark “wild card” Lasry uses his new Governor powers and steps in. I.e. to veto a huge Middleton contact.

The thing is you need him, what if another team offers him a huge contract?

I let him walk. You can only spend so much on regular season guys and the team already invested in Bledsoe. They’ll need that salary flexibility to make other moves over the coming two years. A 4/$140 for a guy who averaged 13ppg in this series, and only got the line 2 time per game is going to be a problem.

Kurtz · Post #1953 » by **Kurtz** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:26 am

I think you guys might be underrating how much energy he had to expand guarding Kawhi. Most guys wouldn't have much left on the offensive end after that.

rrayy · Post #1954 » by **rrayy** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:28 am

Kurtz wrote:I think you guys might be underrating how much energy he had to expand guarding Kawhi. Most guys wouldn't have much left on the offensive end after that.

Doesn't change the fact he is not worth the max and that they should probably let him walk.

Rainwater · Post #1955 » by **Rainwater** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:32 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
This is the one time I’m hoping Mark “wild card” Lasry uses his new Governor powers and steps in. I.e. to veto a huge Middleton contact.

The thing is you need him, what if another team offers him a huge contract?

I let him walk. You can only spend so much on regular season guys and the team already invested in Bledsoe. They’ll need that salary flexibility to make other moves over the coming two years. A 4/$140 for a guy who averaged 13ppg in this series, and only got the line 2 time per game is going to be a problem.

I completely agree

TD75 · Post #1956 » by **TD75** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:40 am

Kurtz wrote:I think you guys might be underrating how much energy he had to expand guarding Kawhi. Most guys wouldn't have much left on the offensive end after that.

I expanded more energy watching Kawhi than Middleton guarding him.

Post #1957 » by **paulpressey25** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:41 am

TD75 wrote:
Kurtz wrote:I think you guys might be underrating how much energy he had to expand guarding Kawhi. Most guys wouldn't have much left on the offensive end after that.

I expanded more energy watching Kawhi than Middleton guarding him.

Ersan needs some love. He was extremely effective on Kawhi and as part of the scheme to stop him tonight.

Fotis St · Post #1958 » by **Fotis St** » Sun May 26, 2019 5:44 am

Ι hated him in 2013 for freezing Giannis multiple times, didn't pass to wide open Giannis under the basket waving his huge hands... then I started to like him... then realised he is a good fit with Giannis cause of his shooting abilities... then realised he didn't have his own thread in Bucks realgm, so I created the "Khris the player who holds the core (Giannis,Jabari) together", ... then he got paid max and got lazy (Monroe,Khris,Henson the triangle of laziness) and started to hate him again, then he becomes negative a whole season and shows up with the Boston series, and I say "maybe he figures it out" then has an ok season and doesn't show up at playoffs as much as we expected...

Conclusion: He hasn't fixed any of his flaws, D, handless, chemistry, work ethic, stamina, consistency... so I would thank him and let him walk.

I rather keep Brook and Brogdon here.

blazza18 · Post #1959 » by **blazza18** » Sun May 26, 2019 6:02 am

xTitan wrote:Middleton’s game is maddening, but right now is as good as it will ever get, terrible athlete,terrible finisher at the rim, loose with the balll....but an excellent shooter, when not up against a superior athlete who can defend.

Kyle Lowry was on him a bunch after they put Kawhi on Giannis. And it did not matter.

Jez2983 · Post #1960 » by **Jez2983** » Sun May 26, 2019 7:02 am

Fotis St wrote:Ι hated him in 2013 for freezing Giannis multiple times, didn't pass to wide open Giannis under the basket waving his huge hands... then I started to like him... then realised he is a good fit with Giannis cause of his shooting abilities... then realised he didn't have his own thread in Bucks realgm, so I created the "Khris the player who holds the core (Giannis,Jabari) together", ... then he got paid max and got lazy (Monroe,Khris,Henson the triangle of laziness) and started to hate him again, then he becomes negative a whole season and shows up with the Boston series, and I say "maybe he figures it out" then has an ok season and doesn't show up at playoffs as much as we expected...

Conclusion: He hasn't fixed any of his flaws, D, handless, chemistry, work ethic, stamina, consistency... so I would thank him and let him walk.

I rather keep Brook and Brogdon here.

He never got the max.