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paulpressey25 wrote:

weezybaby856 wrote:Speaking of Bucks ownership, a little off topic but Alex Kennedy had John Hammond on his podcast this week and it was a decent interview. Talked a bit about Giannis but the most interesting part was how he emphasized his philosophy to "develop and win now" at the same time. Anyone else listen to it?

And I think that is a pipe dream. Very hard to pull off. If he's saying that publicly after leaving the Bucks it tells me it wasn't all Herb Kohl's mandate during his time here.

crkone wrote:
He said he wants to develop and win but then went into a spiel about having to take a year to evaluate Orlando. He then later on went into saying that it was important to Kidd to hire vets to help the young team on the floor. His comment basically sounded like a guy avoiding being polarizing, i.e. being John Hammond.

4xBuck wrote:

JayMKE wrote:I think they are billionaire Wall Street hedge fund managers who will make a lot of money when they finally cash in on this investment. People on this board are so bipolar and quick to change their tunes when the games start, a few impressive summer league performances from our young guys and one trade/FA signing people will get back on board. Our team is really young and it seems like people raise their expectations really fast, as far as player development goes we are way ahead of schedule.

Yep...

As owners, they've done a great job building the infrastructure of the Bucks. When they bought the team, all they had was a bad stadium. Now, they a have G-league team, a brand new practice facility and in a year a brand new state of the art stadium with a beer garden/entertainment block.

Max Green wrote:
It shows a lot of people didn't know what they were talking about. Stun.

JackSIKMA43 wrote:While the "too many hands in the cookie jar" thing is concerning, none of these issues should surprise us. We knew these guys had never been sports franchise owners before. They essentially took on a whole new career, or business venture, whatever you want to call it. The same can be said for every person/people who buy a team, I would think. My personal view at the moment, is only focused on this ...

1. The Bucks are still in Milwaukee and are staying there.
2. There's a new arena and downtown development underway - both huge positives.
3. The Bucks' core player roster is promising and is in better shape now, than it's been for a very long time.
4. The Bucks are better than the Bulls.
5. Saying that once, isn't enough ... the Bucks are better than the Bulls.

I'm going off of that for now. As for the competency of the ownership and management, I'll defer until a few more years from now.

ackypoo wrote:

Big Dog Yank wrote:

ackypoo wrote:and none of that **** truly matters to us.

i signed up to watch basketball, not state of the art beer gardens.

and in 4 years when they dont turn it around because they continue to mismanage the basketball side, and giannis leaves, so will i.

The desire for some of you to wallow in negativity is truly breathtaking at times. NONE of this matters?! If it wasn't for the state-of-the-art arena that is currently being built, this franchise wouldn't even be here anymore. And last I checked, LED got that done (mind you, in a state with an extremely fiscally conservative governor and an inept, do-nothing mayor of Milwaukee-it's a fricking it got done as easily as it did), so spare me the line of b.s. that that doesn't matter.

Listen, I'm very frustrated with how LED have acted at times, and I think this GM situation was ludicrous. But to ignore the good work they've done and strictly focus on their shortcomings is foolish.

correct, none of that matters. we are fans of basketball.

if stadiums got my dick hard, then theyd be the superheroes you think they are.

humanrefutation wrote:FWIW, Joe Lacob was reviled in Oakland before the revival of the Warriors.

Watch on YouTube

This was a franchise that was just on the cusp of becoming a contender, only the fans didn't realize it at the time. Klay was a second year player, Curry was a third year player who hadn't been able to stay healthy, Draymond and Harrison Barnes were rookies. But they were so sick of years of ineptitude and while Lacob - the relatively new face entering his third season as owner - talked a good game, the talk hadn't translated to on-court success.

So, there's still hope left for LED. If the team takes another step next season, no one will remember the Horst debacle.

paulpressey25 wrote:

weezybaby856 wrote:Speaking of Bucks ownership, a little off topic but Alex Kennedy had John Hammond on his podcast this week and it was a decent interview. Talked a bit about Giannis but the most interesting part was how he emphasized his philosophy to "develop and win now" at the same time. Anyone else listen to it?

And I think that is a pipe dream. Very hard to pull off. If he's saying that publicly after leaving the Bucks it tells me it wasn't all Herb Kohl's mandate during his time here.

humanrefutation wrote:FWIW, Joe Lacob was reviled in Oakland before the revival of the Warriors.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

This was a franchise that was just on the cusp of becoming a contender, only the fans didn't realize it at the time. Klay was a second year player, Curry was a third year player who hadn't been able to stay healthy, Draymond and Harrison Barnes were rookies. But they were so sick of years of ineptitude and while Lacob - the relatively new face entering his third season as owner - talked a good game, the talk hadn't translated to on-court success.

So, there's still hope left for LED. If the team takes another step next season, no one will remember the Horst debacle.

SupremeHustle wrote:

paulpressey25 wrote:

weezybaby856 wrote:Speaking of Bucks ownership, a little off topic but Alex Kennedy had John Hammond on his podcast this week and it was a decent interview. Talked a bit about Giannis but the most interesting part was how he emphasized his philosophy to "develop and win now" at the same time. Anyone else listen to it?

And I think that is a pipe dream. Very hard to pull off. If he's saying that publicly after leaving the Bucks it tells me it wasn't all Herb Kohl's mandate during his time here.

There are posters who will try to convince you that we intentionally tanked in 2013-14 which has always been crazy to me. That team was "built" to win. It just sucked.

Fotis St wrote:

SupremeHustle wrote:

paulpressey25 wrote:
And I think that is a pipe dream. Very hard to pull off. If he's saying that publicly after leaving the Bucks it tells me it wasn't all Herb Kohl's mandate during his time here.

There are posters who will try to convince you that we intentionally tanked in 2013-14 which has always been crazy to me. That team was "built" to win. It just sucked.

As a man that joined the team from Giannis draft night ... yes, Mr Drew set this team to tank... which favoured Giannis having mope playing minutes. He was ordered/agreed to do it cause Wiggins and Jabari looked like All-Stars straight from College. I can't blame them.

L.Drew >>> J.Kidd