2017 Bucks Offseason - Koenig Waived

DingleJerry · Post #561 » by **DingleJerry** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:47 pm

emunney wrote:Monroe, Parker, Hawes for McCollum and Leonard

Probably need two 1sts or Thon and a 1st to get that done. I'd probably do it too.

emunney · Post #562 » by **emunney** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:59 pm

^ Nope, that's the offer.

mademan · Post #563 » by **mademan** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:03 pm

Marvin Berry wrote:
mademan wrote:
Marvin Berry wrote:I can't imagine that if we offered Jabari, Thon and a pick they would scoff at it.

Let's face it, the market for Kyrie isn't as robust as they thought.

I'm 100% sure Cleveland is prepared to play out the season if they dont get what theyre looking for in a trade for Kyrie. Dan Gilbert is not the type of dude thats gonna be bullied

Fair enough. That's a valid point.

More importantly, if it really did come down to it and Gilbert did break, he would take an underwhelming offer out West than in his own division. Regardless, I dont think its a discussion without both Middleton/Brogdon and I'm not sure it makes MIL better, though FA's would have to think twice about turning down a Kyrie/Giannis tandem.

Diggr14 · Post #564 » by **Diggr14** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:29 am

trwi7 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I mean, really? NBA coaches and players outside of the last 10 years couldn't do basic math?

I mean, it wouldn't shock me.

Another thought behind this is how the game is officiated.

It’s WWF on the interior, bigs can’t get a 1-4 footer without getting bodied or hacked with no call most of the time, while it is powderpuff basketball on the top of the key.

The “let them play” mentality only applies to the paint for some reason. It’s silly and actually has harmed basketball and is lazy defense and even lazier officiating.

Prickle · Post #565 » by **Prickle** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:41 am

Diggr14 wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I mean, really? NBA coaches and players outside of the last 10 years couldn't do basic math?

I mean, it wouldn't shock me.

Another thought behind this is how the game is officiated.

It’s WWF on the interior, bigs can’t get a 1-4 footer without getting bodied or hacked with no call most of the time, while it is powderpuff basketball on the top of the key.

The “let them play” mentality only applies to the paint for some reason. It’s silly and actually has harmed basketball and is lazy defense and even lazier officiating.

World Wildlife Fund? Just kidding.....I remember when WWF meant Hulk Hogan vs Macho Man in a steel cage match - you know, back when wrestling was "real", lol. I agree with your sentiment.

trwi7 · Post #566 » by **trwi7** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:20 am

The WWF was always the World Wildlife Fund to me but that's because I never liked wrestling and was a giant nerd that would get fact cards from the WWF in the mail as a kid.

Prickle · Post #567 » by **Prickle** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:10 am

trwi7 wrote:The WWF was always the World Wildlife Fund to me but that's because I never liked wrestling and was a giant nerd that would get fact cards from the WWF in the mail as a kid.

I don't think that makes you a nerd. If anything, it just means you were more evolved than most kids at that age. I, on the other hand, thought wrestling was the bee's knees as a kid. I remember seeing the WWF at the Bradley Center when I was 8 years old and thinking I'd just reached the pinnacle of my life, lol. Then again, I also thought monster trucks were really cool too. Thankfully, I soon grew out of that phase. There's really nothing sadder than adults who are diehard wrestling and monster truck fans, IMO. But I guess some people just come out of the womb with mullets and cut-off jean shorts. I hope I haven't offended anyone; these people have accomplished great things. I mean, without them, there would be no NASCAR or President Trump......and who wants to live in a world without those two things?

AussieBuck · Post #568 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:35 am

haha Nascar! The car racing where they do hundreds of laps going in a circle. Then they throw in the odd regular track and some other guy who can steer in both directions wins the race. :lol:

Fotis St · Post #569 » by **Fotis St** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:22 am

Call the Bulls and Wade' s agent ...
Don't let the Bulls pay out Wade...
Henson, Delly, lot prot 1st for Wade, Grant
Would even throw Vaughn as sweetener.
Some here believe that next summer dumping Henson and Delly will not cost a 1st... delusional...
Do it now Horst-Kidd whoever...

vegaspacker · Post #570 » by **vegaspacker** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:23 pm

Fotis St wrote:Call the Bulls and Wade' s agent ...
Don't let the Bulls pay out Wade...
Henson, Delly, lot prot 1st for Wade, Grant
Would even throw Vaughn as sweetener.
Some here believe that next summer dumping Henson and Delly will not cost a 1st... delusional...
Do it now Horst-Kidd whoever...

I like it. We would need a pg, scoop one those in the deal not named MCW. Grant does make sense, he's not much but a better defender than Delly.

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Buckfan76 · Post #571 » by **Buckfan76** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:30 pm

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd5hwc3t

We get Wade, who Bulls are wanting to buyout. I don't think we'd need to attach a 1st rd pick. We also get Grant to backup Brogdon.

Bulls get at least something for Wade. Aminu would be a good player for them. Henson would hopefully get some PT.

Blazers get: Delly, who can backup Lillard. E. Moore to backup 2/3.

NOP gets: E. Davis or A. Nicholson

mcfromage · Post #572 » by **mcfromage** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:38 pm

emunney wrote:Monroe, Parker, Hawes for McCollum and Leonard

Sign me up.

Max Green · Post #573 » by **Max Green** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:39 pm

Prickle wrote:
trwi7 wrote:The WWF was always the World Wildlife Fund to me but that's because I never liked wrestling and was a giant nerd that would get fact cards from the WWF in the mail as a kid.

I don't think that makes you a nerd. If anything, it just means you were more evolved than most kids at that age. I, on the other hand, thought wrestling was the bee's knees as a kid. I remember seeing the WWF at the Bradley Center when I was 8 years old and thinking I'd just reached the pinnacle of my life, lol. Then again, I also thought monster trucks were really cool too. Thankfully, I soon grew out of that phase. There's really nothing sadder than adults who are diehard wrestling and monster truck fans, IMO. But I guess some people just come out of the womb with mullets and cut-off jean shorts. I hope I haven't offended anyone; these people have accomplished great things. I mean, without them, there would be no NASCAR or President Trump......and who wants to live in a world without those two things?

Ron Swanson · Post #574 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:02 pm

Diggr14 wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I mean, really? NBA coaches and players outside of the last 10 years couldn't do basic math?

I mean, it wouldn't shock me.

Another thought behind this is how the game is officiated.

It’s WWF on the interior, bigs can’t get a 1-4 footer without getting bodied or hacked with no call most of the time, while it is powderpuff basketball on the top of the key.

The “let them play” mentality only applies to the paint for some reason. It’s silly and actually has harmed basketball and is lazy defense and even lazier officiating.

Spot on.

DingleJerry · Post #575 » by **DingleJerry** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:08 pm

How is watching wrestling any different than watching any other TV show? It's fake, just like everything else on TV. Hell, it's probably realer than most reality TV. Why is it 'sad' to watch that every week and be into it, but it's not to obsess over GoT or for 40+ yr old men to obsess over Giannis and other teenagers playing basketball? And I don't even watch wrassling anymore, been years since I did. But that type of notion has always annoyed me and to imply that it's all rednecks and morons and dismiss all these people as being below you is exactly why Trump won.

emunney · Post #576 » by **emunney** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:17 pm

DingleJerry wrote:How is watching wrestling any different than watching any other TV show? It's fake, just like everything else on TV. Hell, it's probably realer than most reality TV. Why is it 'sad' to watch that every week and be into it, but it's not to obsess over GoT or for 40+ yr old men to obsess over Giannis and other teenagers playing basketball? And I don't even watch wrassling anymore, been years since I did. But that type of notion has always annoyed me and to imply that it's all rednecks and morons and dismiss all these people as being below you is exactly why Trump won.

mmmmm all fiction is not created equal. I have no problem with people who watch wrestling, I just personally find it dull and repetitive.

jschligs · Post #577 » by **jschligs** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:31 pm

DingleJerry wrote:How is watching wrestling any different than watching any other TV show? It's fake, just like everything else on TV. Hell, it's probably realer than most reality TV. Why is it 'sad' to watch that every week and be into it, but it's not to obsess over GoT or for 40+ yr old men to obsess over Giannis and other teenagers playing basketball? And I don't even watch wrassling anymore, been years since I did. But that type of notion has always annoyed me and to imply that it's all rednecks and morons and dismiss all these people as being below you is exactly why Trump won.

KEEP. POLITICS. OUT.

I don't care what the topic is, whether you wanted a discussion about it, or even if it was just a simple one liner. I don't want to hear a single line about politics on this board. I'm not kidding.

DingleJerry · Post #578 » by **DingleJerry** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:31 pm

emunney wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:How is watching wrestling any different than watching any other TV show? It's fake, just like everything else on TV. Hell, it's probably realer than most reality TV. Why is it 'sad' to watch that every week and be into it, but it's not to obsess over GoT or for 40+ yr old men to obsess over Giannis and other teenagers playing basketball? And I don't even watch wrassling anymore, been years since I did. But that type of notion has always annoyed me and to imply that it's all rednecks and morons and dismiss all these people as being below you is exactly why Trump won.

mmmmm all fiction is not created equal. I have no problem with people who watch wrestling, I just personally find it dull and repetitive.

For sure, each person has their own preferences and opinions though.

A person I worked with puts in a good way. He's a Star Wars fantasy 'nerd' in the traditional sense. How does someone with those interests who buys paraphernalia or maybe goes to parties in costume any different than a sports fan who buys stuff and goes to parties wearing jerseys or other sports clothes. I'd never really thought of it that way before, but yea, he's right.

DingleJerry · Post #579 » by **DingleJerry** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:33 pm

jschligs wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:How is watching wrestling any different than watching any other TV show? It's fake, just like everything else on TV. Hell, it's probably realer than most reality TV. Why is it 'sad' to watch that every week and be into it, but it's not to obsess over GoT or for 40+ yr old men to obsess over Giannis and other teenagers playing basketball? And I don't even watch wrassling anymore, been years since I did. But that type of notion has always annoyed me and to imply that it's all rednecks and morons and dismiss all these people as being below you is exactly why Trump won.

KEEP. POLITICS. OUT.

I don't care what the topic is, whether you wanted a discussion about it, or even if it was just a simple one liner. I don't want to hear a single line about politics on this board. I'm not kidding.

The other dude said it and basically insulated a large group of people, I responded coming down on it. I guess you didn't get the context.

emunney · Post #580 » by **emunney** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:35 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
emunney wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:How is watching wrestling any different than watching any other TV show? It's fake, just like everything else on TV. Hell, it's probably realer than most reality TV. Why is it 'sad' to watch that every week and be into it, but it's not to obsess over GoT or for 40+ yr old men to obsess over Giannis and other teenagers playing basketball? And I don't even watch wrassling anymore, been years since I did. But that type of notion has always annoyed me and to imply that it's all rednecks and morons and dismiss all these people as being below you is exactly why Trump won.

mmmmm all fiction is not created equal. I have no problem with people who watch wrestling, I just personally find it dull and repetitive.

For sure, each person has their own preferences and opinions though.

A person I worked with puts in a good way. He's a Star Wars fantasy 'nerd' in the traditional sense. How does someone with those interests who buys paraphernalia or maybe goes to parties in costume any different than a sports fan who buys stuff and goes to parties wearing jerseys or other sports clothes. I'd never really thought of it that way before, but yea, he's right.

I agree, that is not different in any important ways.