Khris Middleton is greater than or equal to Gordon Hayward

[Perishable517]

Hayward's ball handling/facilitating gives hin a pretty big edge in my horny opinion.

So, Hayward makes you a bit randy?



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[Baddy Chuck]

Midds is good. Hayward is better. Nothing wrong with that.

[BroncoBuck]

Huge Midds guy, but as of today I'd put GH ahead of him. I think a healthy Midds with some increased development this offseason can hit GH's level though. It would be interesting to see where they are both at next season.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

lets do brogdon and IT next!

[vtime]

I think offensively they are the same player but Middleton can defend. Hayward only performed better this past season and that was injury related. Khris shoots better and is a strong facilitator as well. Hayward and Middleton will both be #2 options this year. Khris is a career 40 percent shooter from 3 too.

[Prez]

Depends on which version of Middleton we get next year. Hayward is much better than post injury Middleton. A bit better than 15-16 Middleton. Could see that gap going away if Middleton gets back to 100% & builds on his 15-16 level. Basically what he should've been this year if not for the injury.

[DrWood]

Can we consider contracts? Because considering contracts, I'd take Middleton every day.

[paulpressey25]

Set contracts aside. Not a single person here is refusing to swap Middleton for Hayward immediately if offered. Don't be silly everybody.

The only reason I'm swapping is the injury Midds suffered last year. Otherwise I greatly prefer 2015-16 Middleton to Hayward.

[mattg]

I think offensively they are the same player but Middleton can defend. Hayward only performed better this past season and that was injury related. Khris shoots better and is a strong facilitator as well. Hayward and Middleton will both be #2 options this year. Khris is a career 40 percent shooter from 3 too.

You can think they're the same offensively but you'd be wrong. Hayward has better ball skills, better vision, better mechanical passing ability. He's also a more savvy player and more creative in addition to being a clearly superior athlete. Similar level players, but Hayward is pretty clearly ahead even without the Middleton injury.

The defense thing is closer, but I don't know how you can realistically make an argument for one or the other at this point. Both solid but unspectacular.

FWIW, I expect this to be Hayward in a landslide by the end of the year even accounting for a nice bounce back season from Khris. Stevens is going to open people's eyes to how good Hayward is with how he uses him.

[FlagsFlyForever]

I don't think Middleton underperformed last season due to injury. I think he may have fatigued at the end of the season but he came out of the gate like a house on fire. Middleton looked better than ever in his first 19 games and his return made a huge impact on the team's performance.


I'm not surprised that some Bucks fans think Middleton is better but I bet if this question was posed to fans of the other 29 teams, it would be nearly unanimously in favor of Hayward.

[afroblackarican]

Lot's of homer responses here and I'm a huge Bucks homer. This isn't close, Gordon is on a different level. C'mon guys...

[vtime]

Gordon avg 5apg three years ago, no more than 4.1 in any of the last 3 years despite dominating the ball. What is this great myth about his passing and playmaking?

[ReasonablySober]

If Middleton is 100% I think he's going to have an All-Star level year. GH's better now, but Middleton will be by the end of the season.

[SKG]

Not even close

[chonestown]

Christopher Cross > Kris Kross

[vtime]

I see many have forgotten how good pre-injury Khris was. 19ppg on great percentages while sharing the ball a full season with Giannis and Bari and playing stellar defense. His 15-16 was better than Hayward.

[ReasonablySober]

Christopher Cross > Kris Kross

Watch on YouTube

Try and get this **** out of your head.

[Wooderson]

I think offensively they are the same player but Middleton can defend. Hayward only performed better this past season and that was injury related. Khris shoots better and is a strong facilitator as well. Hayward and Middleton will both be #2 options this year. Khris is a career 40 percent shooter from 3 too.

You can think they're the same offensively but you'd be wrong. Hayward has better ball skills, better vision, better mechanical passing ability. He's also a more savvy player and more creative in addition to being a clearly superior athlete. Similar level players, but Hayward is pretty clearly ahead even without the Middleton injury.

The defense thing is closer, but I don't know how you can realistically make an argument for one or the other at this point. Both solid but unspectacular.

FWIW, I expect this to be Hayward in a landslide by the end of the year even accounting for a nice bounce back season from Khris. Stevens is going to open people's eyes to how good Hayward is with how he uses him.

Not only that but Utah plays at a snails pace so Hayward's raw numbers were depressed.

Per 100 possessions

Hayward: 33.4/8.2/5.3
Middleton (15/16): 25.6/5.4/5.9

[chonestown]

Christopher Cross > Kris Kross

Watch on YouTube

Try and get this **** out of your head.

Too late. I've been infected ever since the first time I heard Tracy Morgan sing it on a Houston sports talk radio program.

[3Diamantidis]

No way lol
Hayward as it stands now, can be the 4th best player in the conference behind only lebron, giannis, wall.