RealGM 2018 Redraft TOP 150

[FlagsFlyForever]

1 Giannis Antetokounmpo
2 LeBron James
3 Kevin Durant
4 Stephen Curry
5 Russell Westbrook
6 Kawhi Leonard
7 Rudy Gobert
8 Anthony Davis
9 James Harden
10 Karl-Anthony Towns
11 Paul George
12 John Wall
13 Draymond Green
14 Chris Paul
15 Jimmy Butler
16 Klay Thompson
17 Nikola Jokic
18 Kyrie Irving
19 Kristaps Porzingis
20 Damian Lillard
21 Mike Conley
22 DeMarcus Cousins
23 DeMar DeRozan
24 Blake Griffin
25 Gordon Hayward
26 Joel Embiid
27 C.J. McCollum
28 Marc Gasol
29 Goran Dragic
30 Kyle Lowry
31 Paul Millsap
32 Kevin Love
32 Goran Dragic
33 Bradley Beal
34 Khris Middleton
35 Gary Harris
36 Myles Turner
37 Kemba Walker
38 DeAndre Jordan
39 Ben Simmons
40 Hassan Whiteside
41 Carmelo Anthony
42 Otto Porter Jr.
43 Brook Lopez
44 Danilo Gallinari
45 Andrew Wiggins
46 Steven Adams
47 Markelle Fultz
48 Jae Crowder
49 Devin Booker
50 Eric Bledsoe
51 George Hill
52 LaMarcus Aldridge
53 Jusuf Nurkic
54 Clint Capela
55 Patrick Beverley
56 Gorgui Dieng
57 Serge Ibaka
58 Al Horford
59 Isaiah Thomas
60 Rodney Hood
61 Buddy Hield
62 Nerlens Noel
63 Andre Iguodala
64 Lonzo Ball
65 Ricky Rubio
66 Avery Bradley
67 Nicolas Batum
68 Marcus Smart
69 D'Angelo Russell
70 Harrison Barnes
71 Andre Drummond
72 Dennis Schroder
73 Brandon Ingram
74 Malcolm Brogdon
75 Jrue Holiday
76 Patty Mills
77 Dwight Howard
78 Jeff Teague
79 Dario Saric
80 Victor Oladipo
81 Derrick Favors
82 Josh Jackson
83 Robert Covington
84 Jamal Murray
85 Eric Gordon
86 Jonas Valanciunas
87 Cody Zeller
88 Pau Gasol
89 J.J. Redick
90 James Johnson
91 Greg Monroe
92 Dion Waiters
93 Rudy Gay
94 Dirk Nowitzki
95 Joe Ingles
96 Tristan Thompson
97 Trevor Ariza
98 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
99 Evan Fournier
100 Danny Green
101 Thon Maker
102 Nikola Vucevic
103 Markieff Morris
105 Seth Curry
105 Julius Randle
106 Patrick Patterson
107 Tobias Harris
108 Enes Kanter
109 Aaron Gordon
110 Amir Johnson
111 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
112 Andre Roberson
113 Tim Hardaway Jr.
114 Dennis Smith Jr.
115 Kelly Olynyk
116 Tyler Johnson
117 Jeremy Lin
118 Lou Williams
119 Dwyane Wade
120 Skal Labissiere
121 Kyle Anderson
121 C.J. Miles
122 Zach LaVine
124 Robin Lopez
125 Taj Gibson
126 Norman Powell
127 Wesley Matthews
128 Marcus Morris
129 Will Barton
130 Thaddeus Young
131 Tony Allen
132 Donovan Mitchell
133 Courtney Lee
134 Ryan Anderson
135 Willy Hernangomez
136 Nick Young
137 Mason Plumlee
138 T.J. Warren
139 Elfrid Payton
140 Al-Farouq Aminu
141 Maurice Harkless
142 Tyson Chandler
143 P.J. Tucker
144 Justise Winslow
145 Kyle O'Quinn
146 Jared Dudley
147 JaMychal Green
148 Marcin Gortat
149 Kenneth Faried
150 Dewayne Dedmon

Forget about which team drafted which player. There will be plenty of time to discuss that later. For now, what are your thoughts on the order of our top 150 players? Who is too high? Too low?

[emunney]

Remind me, is this supposed to be based on expected performance in this coming season?

[FlagsFlyForever]

Remind me, is this supposed to be based on expected performance in this coming season?

Yes. Contracts, age, etc. doesn't matter.. It is purely for the 2017-18 season.

[paulpressey25]

This is a great list to compare value of players versus the other lists out there.

Certainly some guys here drafted for team need but in the end for each guy picked "too high" because a team here needed say a center there are ppgz guys that probably go too high in the other media lists.

Precisely because we were constructing teams, guys who contribute across the board were perhaps more properly valued.

[DingleJerry]

I'd say pretty good overall. Kind of struggled to come up with too high too lows so that's a good sign.

For too low: Lebron James, cmon he's #1 and it's not close. Other boards would call us homers after seeing that. Robin Lopez seemed to go behind several other bigs that I'd prefer him to. Harden going #9 is a too low as well.

Too high: Giannis. Then maybe Simmons and Isaiah Thomas since it's this year only and injury questions, I think Rudy Gay is out for a while too but I could be wrong. Draymond, great glue high I'd want on my team but I can't take him over so many guys that can be lead guys on O.

[H2tObes]

Draymond sticks out as someone taken too high

[FlagsFlyForever]

I think Rudy Gay is out for a while too but I could be wrong.

I drafted Gay and I made sure he was healthy before I drafted him.

http://www.espn.com/blog/san-antonio-spurs/post/_/id/1734/title-tops-rudy-gays-san-antonio-bucket-list

Gay spent some time with ESPN.com to discuss his rehabilitation process from a torn left Achilles tendon, what he brings to the Spurs, and why he opted out of a $14.2 million contract in Sacramento for the 2016-17 to take $8.4 million in San Antonio:

Michael C. Wright: How’s the rehab process going?

Gay: It’s great. I actually worked out today. I’m fully cleared to do everything. I’m fine now.

[BucksPackers]

Lebron- Should be #1 especially without Kyrie there and IT out probably couple months.
Rudy Gobert- James Harden should of been the pick in this spot


The steal of the draft was getting Dennis Smith Jr at 114. He will be somewhere around 19-21 ppg 6-8 apg 4-6 rpg 1-2 spg

Getting the potential rookie of the year that low is pretty amazing and very surprising. I mean Lonzo ball went 64 which i 50 picks difference.

[Fotis St]

Too high :

35 Garry Harris
39 Ben Simmons
44 Danilo Gallinari
47 Markelle Fultz
53 Jusuf Nurkic
54 Clint Capela
64 Lonzo Ball
65 Ricky Rubio ( )

[Presence]

Lebron- Should be #1 especially without Kyrie there and IT out probably couple months.
Rudy Gobert- James Harden should of been the pick in this spot


The steal of the draft was getting Dennis Smith Jr at 114. He will be somewhere around 19-21 ppg 6-8 apg 4-6 rpg 1-2 spg

Getting the potential rookie of the year that low is pretty amazing and very surprising. I mean Lonzo ball went 64 which i 50 picks difference.

You do realise that the lower end of the numbers you mention has only been reached twice in NBA history by a rookie, right?

[Prez]

Nurkic is going to be an absolute monster this year. I don't see how #53 is a reach for him at all.

[BucksPackers]

Lebron- Should be #1 especially without Kyrie there and IT out probably couple months.
Rudy Gobert- James Harden should of been the pick in this spot


The steal of the draft was getting Dennis Smith Jr at 114. He will be somewhere around 19-21 ppg 6-8 apg 4-6 rpg 1-2 spg

Getting the potential rookie of the year that low is pretty amazing and very surprising. I mean Lonzo ball went 64 which i 50 picks difference.

You do realise that the lower end of the numbers you mention has only been reached twice in NBA history by a rookie, right?

Well Dallas has no one. Dennis is going to be the only person to get stats like Lebron was on Clev as a rookie. Not saying hes lebron but he can get those stats.

[BucksPackers]

Lebron- Should be #1 especially without Kyrie there and IT out probably couple months.
Rudy Gobert- James Harden should of been the pick in this spot


The steal of the draft was getting Dennis Smith Jr at 114. He will be somewhere around 19-21 ppg 6-8 apg 4-6 rpg 1-2 spg

Getting the potential rookie of the year that low is pretty amazing and very surprising. I mean Lonzo ball went 64 which i 50 picks difference.

You do realise that the lower end of the numbers you mention has only been reached twice in NBA history by a rookie, right?

Kyrie Irving - 18.5 points 5.4 assists 3.7 rebs 1.1 spg
Lilard- 19 ppg 6.5 apg 3.1 rpg .9 spg

Both of those are right around where I estimated Dennis smith.

[SupremeHustle]

Giannis went too high. Nobody is taking him first overall if they are trying to win this season only. No way.

[FlagsFlyForever]

Too high:

73 Brandon Ingram
76 Patty Mills
59 Isaiah Thomas
35 Gary Harris
1 Giannis Antetokounmpo
and every rookie taken in the first three rounds.


Too low:

14 Chris Paul
75 Jrue Holiday
102 Nikola Vucevic
117 Jeremy Lin
130 Thaddeus Young

[DingleJerry]

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is about who's the better player etc to win games. Not just on who's going to get better stats like it would be for a fantasy team. As in Dennis Smith might put up better stats but maybe we'd prefer a less stats guy like idk Brogdon, Crowder, etc. Or that MCW as a rookie really wasn't a good player even though he put up traditional counting stats.

That said, I would agree Smith seems to be a good steal that late.

[SickMother]

Too high : 44 Danilo Gallinari

The reasoning for picking Gallinari in that spot was that of the players still left on the board he brought the best combination of volume, variety & efficiency in scoring to play off of Jokic. I also thought it was an added bonus that they had already demonstrated a solid chemistry in the past posting a +8.3 pts/100 in 1177 minutes together last season.

SI had Gallinari at 42 in their 2018 rankings & ESPN put him in the 54 spot so it seems 44 is in the right general neighborhood.

Of the players that were available at that spot who would you have taken as a better fit to pair with Jokic?

[Turk Nowitzki]

Giannis went too high. Nobody is taking him first overall if they are trying to win this season only. No way.

Couldn't believe he went first (sorry RS).

[paulpressey25]

Giannis went too high. Nobody is taking him first overall if they are trying to win this season only. No way.

This is sort of like Brett Favre going first in most fantasy drafts circa 1993-2007. He was always a great pick but there was that added hometown buzz. It wasn't a bad pick at #1, just that most would have taken LeBron.

[emunney]

Felt these were great picks:

17 Nikola Jokic
30 Kyle Lowry
38 DeAndre Jordan
51 George Hill
80 Victor Oladipo
91 Greg Monroe
100 Danny Green
109 Aaron Gordon
110 Amir Johnson
114 Dennis Smith Jr. 
125 Taj Gibson

And these were reaches:
47 Markelle Fultz
54 Clint Capela
61 Buddy Hield
69 D'Angelo Russell
77 Dwight Howard
86 Jonas Valanciunas
105 Seth Curry
119 Dwyane Wade
120 Skal Labissiere
122 Zach LaVine
131 Tony Allen
138 T.J. Warren
149 Kenneth Faried

Capela at 54 with Gobert as a 1st rounder is alarming. Felt that team did fairly well the rest of the way, though.