2018 NBA Draft Thread

[leroyjw10]

Robert Williams is my hope and he would improve our rebounding a ton but I also don't think he lasts to 17.

yeah, emuney hinted at this a week or so ago. BUT, man, would Williams be a sweet sweet big to have in our mix. Like really really sweet. We don't have a single guy on the Bucks who has his combination of athleticism and grit. He's got an NBA body and NBA athleticism for sure.

Feels like almost a carbon copy of Bam, who'd be almost perfect for this team.

[leroyjw10]

Robert Williams would be cool, but I have a hard time believing he'll be available. Still really high on Jontay Porter, think he could be a Myles Turner type-- floor spacer & shot blocker. Could also do a lot worse than Jalen Brunson, as he is clutch, tough, provides spacing and has a very high BBIQ.

Porter interests me as well. His per-minute numbers are pretty good across the board, even more impressive for a guy who should be a high school senior. I do worry that he's a little on the soft side, not super athletic and has short arms (7'0). But he's a smart, really skilled player (something the Bucks desperately need) and has many of the traits of an ideal C next to Giannis.

If you could trade back to late in the 1st, while picking up a 2nd, I'd be all for it.

[WeekapaugGroove]

If Williams is there at 17 he's worth the pick. I do find his less than 50% FT shooting a concern. Not that rim runners haven't been successful as crappy FT shooters but it does make them a bit easier to guard when you can simply foul them.

[emunney]

Carter is in. Much good, very want.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Carter is in. Much good, very want.

I love Carter. I think he's a far safer prospect than guys like bagley or bamba and I don't really agree with the idea he doesn't have as much of a ceiling.

[LuessiT]

Carter is in. Much good, very want.

I love Carter. I think he's a far safer prospect than guys like bagley or bamba and I don't really agree with the idea he doesn't have as much of a ceiling.

Bamba definately has a higher ceiling than Carter. It's just much less likely that he actually reaches that ceiling. I certainly wouldn't bank on it.

[emunney]

"Ceiling" is tied so tightly to skill development. One thing I like about all three guys is they've all got good hands (by far least true of Bamba, but still). I prefer Carter because he's so well rounded and has such a strong innate understanding of the game on both ends. He's match-up proof.

Bamba is obviously going to have immediate utility in limited minutes as a rangy rim protector. But what about Bagley? He's shown some signs of versatility offensively but everything centers around scoring. He's got a modern C skillset but probably isn't thick enough and you definitely don't want him filling the gaps on the back of your defense, and, despite his ability to make plays at the top of the rectangle, he almost never shows that on defense. He's a spectacular offensive 4 if his shooting continues to improve, fluid in the open floor with great body control and touch, and he's extremely difficult to keep off the glass. Big pluses and big minuses. Carter just checks every single box. I really like Bamba though and it wouldn't be an easy call.

One thing about Bamba is he's uncannily good at blocking shots to his teammates. A lot of his blocks are like touch passes.

[Ron Swanson]

Williams has some nice tools but I don't think he's as good a prospect as BAM! Dude can't shoot, like.....at all.

[LuessiT]

Williams has some nice tools but I don't think he's as good a prospect as BAM! Dude can't shoot, like.....at all.

Yeah I'm not super high on him either. He's basicly a guy who's going to contribute and who you want on your roster during his rookie contract but you don't want to pay him afterwards. Which is kinda decent at 17 I guess, but just not my cup of tea.

[M-C-G]

Williams has some nice tools but I don't think he's as good a prospect as BAM! Dude can't shoot, like.....at all.

Just watched his game against Kentucky and I thought I was watching a more physical Larry Sanders out there, right down to the dunking where he doesn't gather but just straight arms it.

[Ron Swanson]

I'd still gladly take him at #17 and hope he irons out the FT stuff, but I just don't think his upside is super high.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'd still gladly take him at #17 and hope he irons out the FT stuff, but I just don't think his upside is super high.

I tend to agree because I can't fathom him ever being able to hit a shot outside the paint. I think measurements are going to be very important for Williams. He's listed at 6'9 but if he's actually smaller than that then he could drop because he's already pushing the limit of how short you can be and survive at C.

[Ruzious]

Robert Williams is my hope and he would improve our rebounding a ton but I also don't think he lasts to 17.

yeah, emuney hinted at this a week or so ago. BUT, man, would Williams be a sweet sweet big to have in our mix. Like really really sweet. We don't have a single guy on the Bucks who has his combination of athleticism and grit. He's got an NBA body and NBA athleticism for sure.

Feels like almost a carbon copy of Bam, who'd be almost perfect for this team.

Yup very similar, though Williams has been a better rebounder and shot-blocker at the college level. Bam's got a small advantage in strength while Williams is slightly more athletic. It'll be fun to watch them battle each other in the NBA.

[LuessiT]

yeah, emuney hinted at this a week or so ago. BUT, man, would Williams be a sweet sweet big to have in our mix. Like really really sweet. We don't have a single guy on the Bucks who has his combination of athleticism and grit. He's got an NBA body and NBA athleticism for sure.

Feels like almost a carbon copy of Bam, who'd be almost perfect for this team.

Yup very similar, though Williams has been a better rebounder and shot-blocker at the college level. Bam's got a small advantage in strength while Williams is slightly more athletic. It'll be fun to watch them battle each other in the NBA.

I mean Bam has actual perimeter skills. He can pass some, is a surprisingly good ball-handler and is able to shoot. I have no troubles envisioning him as a 4 if he improves further. Williams has only one position in the NBA. And he's going to be undersized for it.

[Ruzious]

Feels like almost a carbon copy of Bam, who'd be almost perfect for this team.

Yup very similar, though Williams has been a better rebounder and shot-blocker at the college level. Bam's got a small advantage in strength while Williams is slightly more athletic. It'll be fun to watch them battle each other in the NBA.

I mean Bam has actual perimeter skills. He can pass some, is a surprisingly good ball-handler and is able to shoot. I have no troubles envisioning him as a 4 if he improves further. Williams has only one position in the NBA. And he's going to be undersized for it.

Maybe he's developed some in the NBA, because he sure didn't show any perimeter skills at Kentucky. I would have said ZERO chance he'll be a 4 in the NBA.

[ReasonablySober]

Yup very similar, though Williams has been a better rebounder and shot-blocker at the college level. Bam's got a small advantage in strength while Williams is slightly more athletic. It'll be fun to watch them battle each other in the NBA.

I mean Bam has actual perimeter skills. He can pass some, is a surprisingly good ball-handler and is able to shoot. I have no troubles envisioning him as a 4 if he improves further. Williams has only one position in the NBA. And he's going to be undersized for it.

Maybe he's developed some in the NBA, because he sure didn't show any perimeter skills at Kentucky. I would have said ZERO chance he'll be a 4 in the NBA.

Kentucky's bigs play in the post under Cal. Towns didn't show perimeter skills in college either.

[Ruzious]

I mean Bam has actual perimeter skills. He can pass some, is a surprisingly good ball-handler and is able to shoot. I have no troubles envisioning him as a 4 if he improves further. Williams has only one position in the NBA. And he's going to be undersized for it.

Maybe he's developed some in the NBA, because he sure didn't show any perimeter skills at Kentucky. I would have said ZERO chance he'll be a 4 in the NBA.

Kentucky's bigs play in the post under Cal. Towns didn't show perimeter skills in college either.

Townes definitely did - not to the extent he has in the NBA - but it was obvious he had great skills. Same with Davis.

[leroyjw10]

Feels like almost a carbon copy of Bam, who'd be almost perfect for this team.

Yup very similar, though Williams has been a better rebounder and shot-blocker at the college level. Bam's got a small advantage in strength while Williams is slightly more athletic. It'll be fun to watch them battle each other in the NBA.

I mean Bam has actual perimeter skills. He can pass some, is a surprisingly good ball-handler and is able to shoot. I have no troubles envisioning him as a 4 if he improves further. Williams has only one position in the NBA. And he's going to be undersized for it.

Williams is 6-10, 240 lbs with a 7-6 wingspan and a 40" vertical. That's more than big and athletic enough for today's NBA center. And really, that's all he needs to be. We don't need a PF. We already have one.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Yup very similar, though Williams has been a better rebounder and shot-blocker at the college level. Bam's got a small advantage in strength while Williams is slightly more athletic. It'll be fun to watch them battle each other in the NBA.

I mean Bam has actual perimeter skills. He can pass some, is a surprisingly good ball-handler and is able to shoot. I have no troubles envisioning him as a 4 if he improves further. Williams has only one position in the NBA. And he's going to be undersized for it.

Williams is 6-10, 240 lbs with a 7-6 wingspan and a 40" vertical. That's more than big and athletic enough for today's NBA center. And really, that's all he needs to be. We don't need a PF. We already have one.

Where are you getting those measurements? I've seen 6'9 and 7'4 wingspan. If he measures legit 6 10 with a 7 6 wingspan he's gonna fly up draft boards.

[tydett]

I tend to agree because I can't fathom him ever being able to hit a shot outside the paint.

Oh ****, the Bucks DNA light just started flashing in the FO.