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2017 RealGM Bucks Board Re-Draft: ElPeregrino Is The Champion!

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2017 RealGM Bucks Board Re-Draft: ElPeregrino Is The Champion! 

Post#1 » by humanrefutation » Sun Oct 1, 2017 10:52 pm

Thank you to everyone who voted. We had 28 ballots accepted. I have linked the offical Doodle results here.

I tabulated the results, performed the tiebreakers, and we're left with the following results:

https://beta.doodle.com/poll/m6b7w975gkgnh8w4

1. Fotis St: 26 votes
2. AussieBuck: 25 votes
3. paulpressey25: 24 votes
4. Bucks in 6 (1): 21 votes
5. mattg: 20 votes
6. H2t0bes: 20 votes
7. SickMother (2): 19 votes
8. jr lucosa: 19 votes
9. El Peregrino (2): 18 votes
10. gbmb34: 18 votes
11. humanrefutation (1): 18 votes
12. Prez: 17 votes
13. engelmartin: 16 votes
14. bankrupt euro: 16 votes
15. ReasonablySober: 14 votes
16. Nowak008 (1): 13 votes
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PLAYOFF LINE
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17. El Peregrino (1): 13 votes
18. DrWood (1): 13 votes
19. blazza18: 12 votes
20. tydett: 11 votes
21. bigredbadger 11 votes
22. SickMother (1): 11 votes
23. Nowak008 (2): 10 votes
24. ZeppelinPage: 9 votes
25. Aaron It Out: 8 votes
26. Bucks in 6 (2): 7 votes
27. humanrefutation (2): 7 votes
28. DrWood (2): 7 votes
29. ReginaldDwight: 6 votes
30. DanoMac: 4 votes

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The Champion

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PG: Elfrid Payton (139) / Malik Monk (201) / Lou Williams
SG: Lou Williams (118) / Manu Ginobili (158) / Malik Monk
SF: Kevin Durant (3) / Manu Ginobili
PF: Al Horford (58) / Kevin Durant / John Collins (232)
C: Pau Gasol (88) / Al Horford / John Collins

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Past Results:

Round of 16:
#1 Fotis St OVER #16 Nowak, 25-9.
#2 AussieBuck OVER #15 ReasonablySober, 25-10.
#14 bankrupt euro OVER #3 paulpressey25, 17-16.***UPSET***
#4 Bucks in 6 OVER #13 engelmartin, 25-6.
#5 mattg OVER #12 Prez, 17-13.
#6 H2t0bes OVER #11 humanrefutation, 16-14.
#7 SickMother OVER #10 gbmb34, 22-8.
#9 ElPeregrino OVER #8 jr lucosa, 19-14.***UPSET***

Quarterfinals:
#1 Fotis St and #14 bankrupt euro are tied 21-21 (OT). After a tiebreaker, Fotis moves on to the Semis.
#4 Bucks in 6 OVER #7 SickMother, 18-17 (OT).
#6 H2t0bes OVER #5 mattg, 20-18 (OT). ***UPSET***
#9 ElPeregrino OVER #2 AussieBuck, 20-16.***UPSET***

Semifinals:
#4 Bucks in 6 OVER #6 H2t0bes, 21-18
#9 ElPeregrino OVER #1 Fotis St, 26-19. ***UPSET***

Finals:
#9 ElPeregrino OVER #4 Bucks in 6, 19-12. ***UPSET***



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The playoffs will take place on the Player Comparison Board.

Round of 16 will begin on Monday, October 2nd and finish on Tuesday, October 3rd.
Quarterfinals will begin on Tuesday, October 3rd and finish on Wednesday, October 4th.
Semifinals will begin on Wednesday, October 4th and will finish on Friday, October 6th.
Finals will begin on Friday, October 6th and wrap up on Sunday, October 8th.
The winner will be announced the night of Sunday, October 8th.

I have linked to the PC board threads with each of the respective matchups. Feel free to go there and make your case.

If you have any questions, please let me know.
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Post#2 » by humanrefutation » Sun Oct 1, 2017 11:26 pm

I posted an announcement on the Player Comparison board.

I have all of the shells of the threads ready to go. This is taking up a lot of my time, but I'm hoping it'll come together.
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Post#3 » by ReginaldDwight » Mon Oct 2, 2017 12:07 am

humanrefutation wrote:I posted an announcement on the Player Comparison board.

I have all of the shells of the threads ready to go. This is taking up a lot of my time, but I'm hoping it'll come together.

My and1s are ready.
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Post#4 » by FlagsFlyForever » Mon Oct 2, 2017 2:25 am

humanrefutation wrote:I posted an announcement on the Player Comparison board.

I have all of the shells of the threads ready to go. This is taking up a lot of my time, but I'm hoping it'll come together.

I am certain it will all come together. So far, this has been a great success. If you feel like you need a breather, just holler. There were a couple of us who volunteered to do the work and run the tournament if you feel like it's starting to take up too much of your time. This should be fun for you as well.

The voting results are interesting. I would've had both of my teams in if I had voted for myself. Instead, I ended up tied for the last spot and lost the virtual coin toss. No complaints from me. I'm looking forward to seeing how the tournament plays out.
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Post#5 » by Fotis St » Mon Oct 2, 2017 6:19 am

ElPeregrino wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I posted an announcement on the Player Comparison board.

I have all of the shells of the threads ready to go. This is taking up a lot of my time, but I'm hoping it'll come together.

I am certain it will all come together. So far, this has been a great success. If you feel like you need a breather, just holler. There were a couple of us who volunteered to do the work and run the tournament if you feel like it's starting to take up too much of your time. This should be fun for you as well.

The voting results are interesting. I would've had both of my teams in if I had voted for myself. Instead, I ended up tied for the last spot and lost the virtual coin toss. No complaints from me. I'm looking forward to seeing how the tournament plays out.


At the PC board could you copy paste the games and team's rotations ? I think we need to help voters, not searching the rotations and players.

Something like :

Game 1 : Fotis St vs Nowak008


Fotis St
PG: Mike Conley (21) / Rajon Rondo (207)
SG: Danny Green (100) / Mike Conley
SF: Harrison Barnes (70) / Bojan Bogdanovic (172) / Danny Green 
PF: Thaddeus Young (130) /Harrison Barnes / Marquese Chriss / Bojan Bogdanovic 
C: Hassan Whiteside (40) / Marquese Chriss (217)

vs

Nowak008
PG: Jrue Holiday (75) / Cory Joseph (169)
SG: Klay Thompson (16) / Jrue Holiday / Andrew Wiggins
SF: Andrew Wiggins (45) / Klay Thompson / Davis Bertans
PF: Julius Randle (105) / Davis Bertans (186) / Andrew Wiggins
C: Willy Hernangomez (135) / Bismack Biyombo (230) / Julius Randle

I mean I found the rotations only in the pre-vote discussion thread. (1st post)
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1616720
Draft picks: '15 Jerian Grant, '16 Thon Maker, '17 Isaiah Hartenstein/*John Collins, '18 TD Devonte Graham, Hamidou Diallo, '20 Sam Merrill, Killian Tillie, '21 Joe Wieskamp, '22 TU C.Braun/G.Procida '23 Tristan Vukcevic/Maxwell Lewis
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Re: 2017 RealGM Bucks Board Re-Draft: The Playoffs are Set! 

Post#6 » by humanrefutation » Mon Oct 2, 2017 2:09 pm

Fotis St wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I posted an announcement on the Player Comparison board.

I have all of the shells of the threads ready to go. This is taking up a lot of my time, but I'm hoping it'll come together.

I am certain it will all come together. So far, this has been a great success. If you feel like you need a breather, just holler. There were a couple of us who volunteered to do the work and run the tournament if you feel like it's starting to take up too much of your time. This should be fun for you as well.

The voting results are interesting. I would've had both of my teams in if I had voted for myself. Instead, I ended up tied for the last spot and lost the virtual coin toss. No complaints from me. I'm looking forward to seeing how the tournament plays out.


At the PC board could you copy paste the games and team's rotations ? I think we need to help voters, not searching the rotations and players.

Something like :

Game 1 : Fotis St vs Nowak008


Fotis St
PG: Mike Conley (21) / Rajon Rondo (207)
SG: Danny Green (100) / Mike Conley
SF: Harrison Barnes (70) / Bojan Bogdanovic (172) / Danny Green 
PF: Thaddeus Young (130) /Harrison Barnes / Marquese Chriss / Bojan Bogdanovic 
C: Hassan Whiteside (40) / Marquese Chriss (217)

vs

Nowak008
PG: Jrue Holiday (75) / Cory Joseph (169)
SG: Klay Thompson (16) / Jrue Holiday / Andrew Wiggins
SF: Andrew Wiggins (45) / Klay Thompson / Davis Bertans
PF: Julius Randle (105) / Davis Bertans (186) / Andrew Wiggins
C: Willy Hernangomez (135) / Bismack Biyombo (230) / Julius Randle

I mean I found the rotations only in the pre-vote discussion thread. (1st post)
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1616720


I was already planning to. :)
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Post#8 » by engelmartin » Mon Oct 2, 2017 2:34 pm

humanrefutation wrote:I posted an announcement on the Player Comparison board.

I have all of the shells of the threads ready to go. This is taking up a lot of my time, but I'm hoping it'll come together.

Great work HR, hopefully the turn out was great. Either way this is testing the waters and setting up a great foundation for an annual thing.
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Post#9 » by emunney » Mon Oct 2, 2017 5:41 pm

Could set up a league on whatifsports next offseason for the epilogue on this. Run it 50 times and see how the rings fall. Not sure how that site works but it seems like it *might* be able to support something like that.
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Post#10 » by humanrefutation » Mon Oct 2, 2017 6:05 pm

So, I haven't thought about this until now, but is everyone fine with setting the second-round matchups based on the seeds in the first round? i.e the highest seeded winner will play the lowest seeded winner, and so on and so on?
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Post#11 » by FlagsFlyForever » Mon Oct 2, 2017 6:07 pm

emunney wrote:Could set up a league on whatifsports next offseason for the epilogue on this. Run it 50 times and see how the rings fall. Not sure how that site works but it seems like it *might* be able to support something like that.

I suggested that before as well. You need 12-man rosters but you are able to set rotation minutes so we can just fill the 9-12 spots with filler (presumably what happened with the 2K simulation). That would be interesting.




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Post#12 » by engelmartin » Mon Oct 2, 2017 6:21 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:I posted an announcement on the Player Comparison board.

I have all of the shells of the threads ready to go. This is taking up a lot of my time, but I'm hoping it'll come together.

My and1s are ready.

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Post#13 » by engelmartin » Mon Oct 2, 2017 6:23 pm

ElPeregrino wrote:
emunney wrote:Could set up a league on whatifsports next offseason for the epilogue on this. Run it 50 times and see how the rings fall. Not sure how that site works but it seems like it *might* be able to support something like that.

I suggested that before as well. You need 12-man rosters but you are able to set rotation minutes so we can just fill the 9-12 spots with filler (presumably what happened with the 2K simulation). That would be interesting.

Yeah, it totally just fills out the rest of the roster. If you can control the minutes people play it doesn't make much of a difference, but worse case scenario we could clone the exact same players as 9-12 on every team.
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Post#14 » by emunney » Mon Oct 2, 2017 6:24 pm

You could also do a supplemental draft for 9-12 down the line if you've re-spawned the stomach for it by then.
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Post#15 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Oct 2, 2017 7:10 pm

AB is killing me and I'm bothered people believe the corpses of Korver, Ibaka, and VC have a shot against my team. You bastards.
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Post#16 » by humanrefutation » Mon Oct 2, 2017 7:26 pm

A few really close votes going on.
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Post#17 » by H2tObes » Mon Oct 2, 2017 8:04 pm

humanrefutation wrote:A few really close votes going on.

You went up 5-0 against me, somehow have been able to pull it back as the day has went on and I'm now up 10-8. Definitely caught me by surprise
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Post#18 » by humanrefutation » Mon Oct 2, 2017 8:07 pm

H2tObes wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:A few really close votes going on.

You went up 5-0 against me, somehow have been able to pull it back as the day has went on and I'm now up 10-8. Definitely caught me by surprise


I've got the best player on either team, so in the minds of some, that'll give me an advantage at first glance. We'll see how it looks by tomorrow, but it's going to be close.
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Post#19 » by tydett » Mon Oct 2, 2017 8:59 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:AB is killing me and I'm bothered people believe the corpses of Korver, Ibaka, and VC have a shot against my team. You bastards.


Before the season, your bench looks incredibly weak to me, and I'm just not sure about the fit of your other players, so I understand the vote.
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Post#20 » by mattg » Mon Oct 2, 2017 10:51 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:AB is killing me and I'm bothered people believe the corpses of Korver, Ibaka, and VC have a shot against my team. You bastards.

I think it's more so that his team is loaded with tons of shooting and has capable bigs. You have insane defensive bigs, but all your best defensive players are far less good if they have to chase smaller guys around screens, which is what his team excels at. It's just not a good match up for your team. Tough draw for you in round 1 since there's plenty of other match ups where you'd win out.

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