Bucks Bledsoe Trade Watch Thread - Gery update pg 67 Delly offered

[Lippo]

what does jones mean?

You never heard the term

I'm Jonesing for some Taco Bell....
etc...
Think it has something to do with addiction/withdrawal....

[DingleJerry]

IT's correct when Bledsoe's contract is up is when we'll be at our true winning window. But if the price is right why wouldn't you take him and be better now and worry about that in two years, sure would make the next two years more fun. It's not like we're going to get a good pick again unless Giannis gets hurt. And with him I'd say you have legit shot at being the 2nd best team in the East, who knows LBJ gets hurt and you have as good a shot as anyone else at the Finals. If you're clearing at least one of the bad contracts with him and not giving up much else then it's kind of a no brainer. I mean, 11ish mil on Henson or Mirza or 13-14 on Bledsoe, I know which I'd rather have. But yes I'm also not mortgaging the future for him, has to be at our price. And by trading for him I'm not promising him a 4/100 extension either, that's a whole different discussion later on.

For the Clips/Bucks discussion. I get what you're saying with age windows, plus throw in living in LA vs MKE and yea I get it. But in reality MKE with Bledsoe is probably more of a contender than the Clips with him just because of being in the East and well Giannis. Our team should be home court with him, Clips would still be in a battle to make the playoffs. I would pick them to make it but they'd be a lower seed and with the power teams in the West they'd have no shot. In the East you can hang with any team other than LBJ.

[M-C-G]

IT's correct when Bledsoe's contract is up is when we'll be at our true winning window. But if the price is right why wouldn't you take him and be better now and worry about that in two years, sure would make the next two years more fun. It's not like we're going to get a good pick again unless Giannis gets hurt. And with him I'd say you have legit shot at being the 2nd best team in the East, who knows LBJ gets hurt and you have as good a shot as anyone else at the Finals. If you're clearing at least one of the bad contracts with him and not giving up much else then it's kind of a no brainer. I mean, 11ish mil on Henson or Mirza or 13-14 on Bledsoe, I know which I'd rather have. But yes I'm also not mortgaging the future for him, has to be at our price. And by trading for him I'm not promising him a 4/100 extension either, that's a whole different discussion later on.

For the Clips/Bucks discussion. I get what you're saying with age windows, plus throw in living in LA vs MKE and yea I get it. But in reality MKE with Bledsoe is probably more of a contender than the Clips with him just because of being in the East and well Giannis. Our team should be home court with him, Clips would still be in a battle to make the playoffs. I would pick them to make it but they'd be a lower seed and with the power teams in the West they'd have no shot. In the East you can hang with any team other than LBJ.

I'm fine with the idea of Bledsoe, but I'm probably not willing to include Brogdon as the main chip in a trade along with a first. I think if they just wanted a first he would have been moved by now and his trade value is only going to decrease after this season. If I am PHX it makes no sense to not cash in whatever value you can get from Bledsoe right now.

I'd probably cap my offer at something like Delly/Mirza/Wilson/1st for Bledsoe/Dudley/2nd. Then Brogdon can run the second unit with Moose which is good for everyone

PG: Bledsoe, Brogdon, Liggins
SG: Snell, Vaughn, Jet
SF: Midds, Brown, (Parker)
PF: Giannis, Dudley, Kris Humprhies/Brandon Bass/etc
C: Thon, Moose, Henson

[LedZepp007]

We can’t play around. If we can upgrade at the one with Bledsoe you’re goddamn right we should do it


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[raferfenix]

I would be ok trading a first for Bledsoe.

If we would deal Brogdon or Jabari in addition we might be able to get him.

Definitely could be overrating our own guys but I would be hesitant about dealing either.

Brogdon just seems like such a perfect fit for us.

If you don’t want to cash out Jabari then Bledsoe is the obvious target. However I’m also high on Parker even though I’m terrified about his health.

Wilson I would give up easy but I’m way cynical about how our front office approached this draft.

[DingleJerry]

I'm sure my offer would involve Jabari so probably best not to even talk about things with him. I don't want Brogdon going out, he's the perfect backup and insurance on Bledsoe injuries.

A non-Jabari deal gets tough: Mirza, Wilson and a top 10 protected first. Thing is with their roster I'm not sure they'd want Vaughn or Wilson, maybe Brown would be more interesting. Lots of things beyond that with Dudley, Chandler, Monroe etc could be interesting but too complicated to discuss.

[JayMKE]

I'm not sure how long Bledsoe's knees have left

[M-C-G]

I'm not sure how long Bledsoe's knees have left

I'd want him for these two years and I would not want to be the team paying him his next contract

[coolhandluke121]

what does jones mean?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdzljz

Holy crap. Heard the song many times. Didn't realize that video was so racist.

[SKG]

Wilson,brogdon,henson for bledsoe

[Buckfan76]

Here's my Bledsoe trade offer:

Raps get: Parker, and Telly
Suns get: Brogdon and J. Valancianus
Bucks get: Bledsoe and (SF)OG Annunoby

I mean Suns would have to trade Chandler also I would think.

[raferfenix]

Maybe Jared Dudley could help out the Bucks on the wing?

Teletovic's first night out sure didn't instill any confidence. Suns in theory could feel fine about bringing him back though (as part of a broader trade) if they're going to suck either way.

Speaking of which this bodes ill for the Suns' season. Firesale watch is on:

Phoenix was blown out -- blown out is almost an understatement -- by the Portland Trail Blazers in front of their home fans. The final score? 124-76.

The 48-point loss was the worst opening night defeat in NBA history, and was the worst loss in the 50-year history of the Phoenix Suns franchise.

Oh, and the worst part? The Blazers were without their second-leading scorer season, CJ McCollum, who was suspended for leaving the bench during a preseason altercation with these very same Suns. Revenge game, indeed.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/suns-suffer-worst-opening-night-loss-in-nba-history-also-set-a-franchise-record/

[raferfenix]

From the Suns board:

Bledsoe and Possibly chandler need to go even if thy take a loss on the trade, i think their demeanor is setting the tone for the team morale and not in a positive way, Watson should already be fired .. there's no excuse to play this poorly with a team very similar to the one that at least competed hard at the end of last year, unless it's the coaching staff

Thinking about what Milwaukee’s best offer for 2/3 of Bledsoe / Chandler / Dudley would be.

[TroyD92]

From the Suns board:

Bledsoe and Possibly chandler need to go even if thy take a loss on the trade, i think their demeanor is setting the tone for the team morale and not in a positive way, Watson should already be fired .. there's no excuse to play this poorly with a team very similar to the one that at least competed hard at the end of last year, unless it's the coaching staff

Thinking about what Milwaukee’s best offer for 2/3 of Bledsoe / Chandler / Dudley would be.

Monroe/Wilson/Vaughn/Top 5 or 10 protected first.

[raferfenix]

Monroe/Wilson/Vaughn/Top 5 or 10 protected first.

I could see the Bucks dropping the protection and also taking on Chandler’s contract to make this happen.

Absolutely questionable whether it’s enough value for Bledsoe. The Nuggets in particular might offer more, and the Cavs would try to.

Either way the Suns just lost all their leverage.

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[TroyD92]

Monroe/Wilson/Vaughn/Top 5 or 10 protected first.

I could see the Bucks dropping the protection and also taking on Chandler’s contract to make this happen.

Absolutely questionable whether it’s enough value for Bledsoe. The Nuggets in particular might offer more, and the Cavs would try to.

Either way the Suns just lost all their leverage.

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[freewhitemoon]

How many other teams actually need him? I'd say <5

Great opportunity for bucks to show some competence and get this done

[Gam]

Oh ****, this might actually happen if he's requesting a trade. I think it comes down to us and the Nuggets. And maybe the Cavs if they're insane enough to include the Nets pick in a deal.

[raferfenix]

Oh ****, this might actually happen if he's requesting a trade. I think it comes down to us and the Nuggets. And maybe the Cavs if they're insane enough to include the Nets pick in a deal.

Imagine the Nuggets could still be interested in something along these lines.

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On the other hand they aren't trading Murray and just extended Hill. Mudiay + Faried might still be on the table but not sure what other young players or future picks would be.

I don't see Cleveland being willing to include the Nets pick for only Bledsoe. But if the Suns offer up a combination of young assets (not Jackson) and the Heat pick maybe something could get done.

The Knicks look like they could use a PG.

Clippers also could use Bledsoe, not sure what they'd offer though. They owe the Celtics a pick but could offer up one future first.

2019 first round draft pick to Boston
L.A. Clippers' 1st round pick to Boston (via Memphis) protected for selections 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if the L.A. Clippers have not conveyed a 1st round pick to Boston by 2020, then the L.A. Clippers will instead convey their 2022 2nd round pick to Boston [L.A. Clippers-Memphis, 2/18/2016; Boston-Memphis, 6/23/2016]

[The Wet Whistle]

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