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Post#1761 » by sidney lanier » Fri Jun 5, 2020 2:05 pm

I just don't get it. Three weeks ago I'm getting use-your-American-Airlines-shares-for-wallpaper jokes from my mean-spirited friends, Warren Buffett essentially tells the world that airlines are poop and flushes his holdings, and now the sector soars apparently off somebody detecting a pulse in what was thought to be a corpse.

And not just airlines. Woohoo, 13% unemployment? What a world.
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Post#1762 » by BucksFanSD » Fri Jun 5, 2020 2:17 pm

Buffet was definitely wrong about the airlines. That said, I shorted AAL (and some others) this morning. It's not that far from it's highs and we're still in a pandemic.
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Post#1763 » by M-C-G » Fri Jun 5, 2020 2:23 pm

sidney lanier wrote:I just don't get it. Three weeks ago I'm getting use-your-American-Airlines-shares-for-wallpaper jokes from my mean-spirited friends, Warren Buffett essentially tells the world that airlines are poop and flushes his holdings, and now the sector soars apparently off somebody detecting a pulse in what was thought to be a corpse.

And not just airlines. Woohoo, 13% unemployment? What a world.


I've been watching airlines for weeks, and frankly, it makes no sense. News comes out that an airline is laying off 25% of their pilots, price goes up. Well, they are doing that because they don't have enough business to support it...I get they are protecting their expenses but still. Doesn't make sense to me.

If I were ever to short, which I won't, I'd be shorting airlines previous to the July earnings reports.
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Post#1764 » by BucksFanSD » Fri Jun 5, 2020 2:39 pm

Airlines are getting more ticket sales but with some Airlines stocks doubling their share price share in the last 10 days I didn't think that made sense.

And gyms. Planet Fitness (PLNT) is near all time highs. Is everyone going back to the gym now? I shorted that one too this morning.

I am a little short term bearish now. Still believe in the long term with stocks.
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Post#1765 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Jun 5, 2020 2:51 pm

I've stayed away from airlines. Too unpredictable and I don't have any "gambling" cash to put in play right now.
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Post#1766 » by KidA24 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 3:16 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:That's crazy. I know I keep hearing that COVID is factored into the market but I don't buy it. There are a lot of bad earnings numbers to come. Many companies (like mine) will have budget cuts. And budget cuts almost always include layoffs. I fully expect some in my company to lose their jobs by the end of the year. I don't know if we'll fully return to the bottoms of a couple months ago and I'd love for the Bear market to be over with but color me skeptical.


I feel like the market is being propped up by billionaires consolidating their wealth.

Unemployment bonuses stop in 9 weeks. **** is going to start hitting the fan before that, I'd imagine.
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Post#1767 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Jun 5, 2020 3:35 pm

There will definitely be some pain down the road. I'm still fully invested other than my emergency cash stash. It's tempting to cash in some gains and buy on the next dip but I'll just stay the course.
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Post#1768 » by M-C-G » Fri Jun 5, 2020 3:48 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:That's crazy. I know I keep hearing that COVID is factored into the market but I don't buy it. There are a lot of bad earnings numbers to come. Many companies (like mine) will have budget cuts. And budget cuts almost always include layoffs. I fully expect some in my company to lose their jobs by the end of the year. I don't know if we'll fully return to the bottoms of a couple months ago and I'd love for the Bear market to be over with but color me skeptical.


I feel like the market is being propped up by billionaires consolidating their wealth.

Unemployment bonuses stop in 9 weeks. **** is going to start hitting the fan before that, I'd imagine.


Hard to say given they just announced 2.5M jobs added in May. No doubt billionaires like Bezos and what not cashed in during the assault on small businesses the last couple of months, but would appear things look like they are trending in the right direction.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/markets/us-stocks-soar-on-surprisingly-strong-jobs-report/ar-BB155y7A
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Post#1769 » by M-C-G » Fri Jun 5, 2020 3:49 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:There will definitely be some pain down the road. I'm still fully invested other than my emergency cash stash. It's tempting to cash in some gains and buy on the next dip but I'll just stay the course.


Yeah, if you already bought low on some of this stuff, simply waiting it out till it hits 'historical norms' and then cash out and find something to go into next is probably as safe and profitable of play as there is right now.

It's not sexy, but it would appear to be profitable.
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Post#1770 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Jun 5, 2020 4:05 pm

BucksFanSD wrote:Airlines are getting more ticket sales but with some Airlines stocks doubling their share price share in the last 10 days I didn't think that made sense.

And gyms. Planet Fitness (PLNT) is near all time highs. Is everyone going back to the gym now? I shorted that one too this morning.

I am a little short term bearish now. Still believe in the long term with stocks.

I wonder if there is a bubba gump shrimp factor here. All these random boutique, small shops closed and may not reopen. PF is still standing, may have good subscription revenue as people were probably to lazy to cancel even when business was closed, and now they may be the only option in some markets going forward.
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Post#1771 » by JEIS » Sun Jun 7, 2020 2:53 am

I bought a few thousand shares of JC penneys @ .13 This bad boy looks like it is coming back from the dead.
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Post#1772 » by jschligs » Tue Jun 9, 2020 4:52 pm

Riding Smith & Wesson to earnings, bought an ITM option Monday that's paying off huge. Also hoped on MSFT $200 call for the day after earnings. Both should rise given the situations they're in.
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Post#1773 » by JEIS » Tue Jun 9, 2020 8:44 pm

Stannis wrote:
JEIS wrote:I would legit still stick with fuel cell. They are partnered with Exxon and Toyota. They are working on a hydrogen city in Japan. It is still a great buy. Very undervalued (think rookie Giannis). Legit could see this going hella big. They have carbon capture tech that produces energy that can be sold to oil companies and is an untapped source of revenue for them. Big reason why Exxon partnered with them. They had horrible management and sh#t canned them. Brought in Jason Few worked for Marathon oil back in the day and dude has been lights out so far. They may also have the opportunity to do a crap ton of work out in California with PG&E if the make their time lines less stringent. There is even potential for them to eventually be bought out by one of the bigger guys, and that would shoot the stock up as well. They will likely turn a nice profit this upcoming quarter causing the stock to shoot up. They have re-occuring revenue on their fuel cells, and have some of the longest lasting fuel cells out there. It may go down in price test closer to $2 if the bears get worried, or the market backtracks. I could see this being a $20 to $50+ stock with its potential and the way the world is going with the green initiative.

I just started to mess with a few penny stocks.. Buy them low and flip them sell high buy low. Zom Ensv Trnx....(these are typically pump and dump stocks) Make a few hundred and put that money into better more stable stocks, Fcel the main one.


I also buy stocks at lows.... Disney @ $89 Haliburton which was at $20+ not long ago. $6ish range
Bought Sea world under $9

All recent.

Basically, Better companies higher risk higher reward. Companies that covid screwed with that will likely bounce back if things settle down.. They may, or may not.

I Bought Spce cheapish... Kind of Tesla like in the way that it is overvalued, but people love it.

Nicola Vectolq Hydrogen car company and In the business of Hydrogen fuel stations

I just I try to research and follow the stocks nd determine market value... see what is happening with them. I read up on them a lot and take calculated risks. Some money I allot to longshot go big or go home stocks.

I messed up big time last week. I was trying to buy canntrust when it went to .03... but didn't have a platform to purchase it... I signed up for Ameritrade and had to wait for money to clear... took too damn long and I missed out. So bummed. Up to .50 today.
I got burned when it was delisted, tried to make it up by buying it low, and it sucked. Between that and the Packers draft I have been a crank ass all weekend.

It was like a winning lotto ticket going through the wash.


One other boom or bust stock is hysr... I am going to buy 1,000,000 share and sit on it. I currently only have 35,000 Waiting for my commission check to come in. It is a unique solar company that uses sunlight and water to create energy. Stock is valued at like .0052 cents. This one is way more risky than fuel cell, but it could be a decent stock to work with even if it goes up a couple cents, you could make hella bank. Live on your own island kind of stock if it does well... Or you lose a few grand and lick your wounds.

Also, (Umbilical cord) Stem cell companies... I was just looking into those recently and they are booming... I got to them about a week late. Some up 150% last week. Waiting and hoping they go down some.


Dang son. Where do you get all you info on these stocks? I will probably have to sign up for a TD Ameritrade account too. I believe they are the best platform for penny stocks from what I read.

Canntrust would have been a sick pick up. I thought that one was going to dissolve completely.

Hysr definitely sounds interesting.

I can't get over the name for Nicola. Seems like a Tesla ripoff. But that may be a good thing.

I bought Disney around the same time you did. I remember people in Reddit were saying it was too early lol.

My average for SPCE is like 30 bucks. Not great at all. This was a pure FOMO buy lmao. I learned my lesson. Though, I wish I bought more when it was touching 10 bucks in March.



Hope you change your mind on Nikola and bought in early.. Went from $13 to $33 to $80 in no time.
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Post#1774 » by th87 » Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:22 pm

JEIS wrote:
Stannis wrote:
JEIS wrote:I would legit still stick with fuel cell. They are partnered with Exxon and Toyota. They are working on a hydrogen city in Japan. It is still a great buy. Very undervalued (think rookie Giannis). Legit could see this going hella big. They have carbon capture tech that produces energy that can be sold to oil companies and is an untapped source of revenue for them. Big reason why Exxon partnered with them. They had horrible management and sh#t canned them. Brought in Jason Few worked for Marathon oil back in the day and dude has been lights out so far. They may also have the opportunity to do a crap ton of work out in California with PG&E if the make their time lines less stringent. There is even potential for them to eventually be bought out by one of the bigger guys, and that would shoot the stock up as well. They will likely turn a nice profit this upcoming quarter causing the stock to shoot up. They have re-occuring revenue on their fuel cells, and have some of the longest lasting fuel cells out there. It may go down in price test closer to $2 if the bears get worried, or the market backtracks. I could see this being a $20 to $50+ stock with its potential and the way the world is going with the green initiative.

I just started to mess with a few penny stocks.. Buy them low and flip them sell high buy low. Zom Ensv Trnx....(these are typically pump and dump stocks) Make a few hundred and put that money into better more stable stocks, Fcel the main one.


I also buy stocks at lows.... Disney @ $89 Haliburton which was at $20+ not long ago. $6ish range
Bought Sea world under $9

All recent.

Basically, Better companies higher risk higher reward. Companies that covid screwed with that will likely bounce back if things settle down.. They may, or may not.

I Bought Spce cheapish... Kind of Tesla like in the way that it is overvalued, but people love it.

Nicola Vectolq Hydrogen car company and In the business of Hydrogen fuel stations

I just I try to research and follow the stocks nd determine market value... see what is happening with them. I read up on them a lot and take calculated risks. Some money I allot to longshot go big or go home stocks.

I messed up big time last week. I was trying to buy canntrust when it went to .03... but didn't have a platform to purchase it... I signed up for Ameritrade and had to wait for money to clear... took too damn long and I missed out. So bummed. Up to .50 today.
I got burned when it was delisted, tried to make it up by buying it low, and it sucked. Between that and the Packers draft I have been a crank ass all weekend.

It was like a winning lotto ticket going through the wash.


One other boom or bust stock is hysr... I am going to buy 1,000,000 share and sit on it. I currently only have 35,000 Waiting for my commission check to come in. It is a unique solar company that uses sunlight and water to create energy. Stock is valued at like .0052 cents. This one is way more risky than fuel cell, but it could be a decent stock to work with even if it goes up a couple cents, you could make hella bank. Live on your own island kind of stock if it does well... Or you lose a few grand and lick your wounds.

Also, (Umbilical cord) Stem cell companies... I was just looking into those recently and they are booming... I got to them about a week late. Some up 150% last week. Waiting and hoping they go down some.


Dang son. Where do you get all you info on these stocks? I will probably have to sign up for a TD Ameritrade account too. I believe they are the best platform for penny stocks from what I read.

Canntrust would have been a sick pick up. I thought that one was going to dissolve completely.

Hysr definitely sounds interesting.

I can't get over the name for Nicola. Seems like a Tesla ripoff. But that may be a good thing.

I bought Disney around the same time you did. I remember people in Reddit were saying it was too early lol.

My average for SPCE is like 30 bucks. Not great at all. This was a pure FOMO buy lmao. I learned my lesson. Though, I wish I bought more when it was touching 10 bucks in March.



Hope you change your mind on Nikola and bought in early.. Went from $13 to $33 to $80 in no time.


Shout out for the HYSR recommendation. Thank you!
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Post#1775 » by Stannis » Tue Jun 9, 2020 11:52 pm

JEIS wrote:Hope you change your mind on Nikola and bought in early.. Went from $13 to $33 to $80 in no time.

Haha nope. I didn't :(

I watched this video, which pretty much said everything I agreed with:



I've been trying to long-term/value invest. And it just hard for me to put a lot of money in these spec stocks that make no money. But value investing might be dead. It seems like my generation loves these spec stocks as long as they are very ambitious and innovative.

I was thinking about HYSR as well, but backed out because I always get burned on penny stocks. But I'm probably not patient enough.

You got any other names?
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Post#1776 » by JEIS » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:54 am

th87 wrote:
JEIS wrote:
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Dang son. Where do you get all you info on these stocks? I will probably have to sign up for a TD Ameritrade account too. I believe they are the best platform for penny stocks from what I read.

Canntrust would have been a sick pick up. I thought that one was going to dissolve completely.

Hysr definitely sounds interesting.

I can't get over the name for Nicola. Seems like a Tesla ripoff. But that may be a good thing.

I bought Disney around the same time you did. I remember people in Reddit were saying it was too early lol.

My average for SPCE is like 30 bucks. Not great at all. This was a pure FOMO buy lmao. I learned my lesson. Though, I wish I bought more when it was touching 10 bucks in March.



Hope you change your mind on Nikola and bought in early.. Went from $13 to $33 to $80 in no time.


Shout out for the HYSR recommendation. Thank you!


All good Bro. Let's all make that money.
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Post#1777 » by jschligs » Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:37 pm

JEIS wrote:
th87 wrote:
JEIS wrote:

Hope you change your mind on Nikola and bought in early.. Went from $13 to $33 to $80 in no time.


Shout out for the HYSR recommendation. Thank you!


All good Bro. Let's all make that money.


I've enjoyed your DD and TA on recent stocks, any others you're liking in coming months?
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Post#1778 » by Stannis » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:39 pm

jschligs wrote:Riding Smith & Wesson to earnings, bought an ITM option Monday that's paying off huge. Also hoped on MSFT $200 call for the day after earnings. Both should rise given the situations they're in.

You think it's too late to hop on the Smith and Wesson train?
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Post#1779 » by jschligs » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:22 am

Stannis wrote:
jschligs wrote:Riding Smith & Wesson to earnings, bought an ITM option Monday that's paying off huge. Also hoped on MSFT $200 call for the day after earnings. Both should rise given the situations they're in.

You think it's too late to hop on the Smith and Wesson train?


Sold my $15 call this morning before it took a big drop for a nice 100% and then some gain. It’s and interesting stock. They recently decided to split the company into a gun aide (Smith and Wesson) and the outdoors side (Anerican Outdoors Brand). The ticker symbol changed to SWBI on 6/1, and later this summer they’ll split and you’ll have stock of each, no idea when or any other details surrounding it.

However, I work in the firearms/outdoor industry, and we’ve seen incredible sales this year over last years numbers. The firearm industry always has people panic buying in certain situations; after a mass shooting/facing legislation, any large election where a democrat might win, pandemics, riots, and talks of war. We’ve had fricken the trifecta this year. I’d assume their sales are big.

I might buy back in tomorrow for both calls and shares as I like the odds.
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Post#1780 » by BucksFanSD » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:17 pm

My short term bearish outlook will be over with the big drop this morning. I will be covering my shorts from last week. This is looking like a good buying opportunity this morning and I will be buying. Stocks just received a hair cut. Corona virus isn't getting worse from the numbers I looked at, although that was a claim for part of the reason for today's drop.

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