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Round 1 - Donte DiVincenzo

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Post#1581 » by Perishable517 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:23 pm

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MrPerfect1 wrote:There is a legitimate argument that DDV is better than Brogdon


Then make it because you're the only one that believes that.
I believe it too. DDV is making himself elite at one thing. Is Brogdon, who I still like, elite at anything?

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Post#1582 » by Perishable517 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 6:28 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:In a re-draft he's no lower than the 3rd or 4th pick, right?

It's Luka, Shae, and then you're debating Young and Ayton.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2018.html

Feel like there are a few more dudes who are just as good/better and younger.
Yep. That draft was loaded, I think.

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Re: Round 1 - Donte DiVincenzo 

Post#1583 » by old skool » Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:45 pm

Perishable517 wrote:
WimpyDeer wrote:
MrPerfect1 wrote:There is a legitimate argument that DDV is better than Brogdon


Then make it because you're the only one that believes that.
I believe it too. DDV is making himself elite at one thing. Is Brogdon, who I still like, elite at anything?

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I think Brogdon is elite at calming down an offense under pressure. His steady demeanor does not change much with the game situation.

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Post#1584 » by craig » Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:59 pm

I'd love to hang on to the Indiana pick and see what Horst and team can do with another first round pick.
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Post#1585 » by Bucksfan28 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:31 pm

Yea there's probably still 7-10 guys that go ahead of Donte, but that says more about the draft class than him. He's been great here.
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Post#1586 » by buckboy » Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:01 am

This discussion was had like 10 pages ago. I think I had him around 6, but yeah, he'd definitely go higher than 17.
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Post#1587 » by ampd » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:17 am

It really doesn't matter where he'd go, we got what looks like a potential impact player at 17, I'll take it.
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Post#1588 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:01 pm

ampd wrote:It really doesn't matter where he'd go, we got what looks like a potential impact player at 17, I'll take it.

He's an impact player right now
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Post#1589 » by kid idioteque » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:12 pm

Comparing the two now is silly. Predicting who has the better career when all is said and done? I think it could be Donte.
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Post#1590 » by drew881 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:46 pm

Looking at the rest of the draft, would we rather have Shamet instead of him? For this year, I say yes. Moving forward, no.
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Post#1591 » by Prez » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:00 pm

drew881 wrote:Looking at the rest of the draft, would we rather have Shamet instead of him? For this year, I say yes. Moving forward, no.

Donte has been substantially better this year than Shamet and we’re completely destroying teams with him on court. It’s a clear no even just this year imo.
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Post#1592 » by skones » Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:11 pm

drew881 wrote:Looking at the rest of the draft, would we rather have Shamet instead of him? For this year, I say yes. Moving forward, no.


Absolutely not. Donte is head and shoulders above Shamet this year.
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Post#1593 » by DrWood » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:10 pm

all 4 of the Villanova guys in that draft did OK.
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Post#1594 » by Brewhoopfan » Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:29 pm

craig wrote:I'd love to hang on to the Indiana pick and see what Horst and team can do with another first round pick.


This. Amongst many advantages to having Giannis, I'd put drafting near the top of the list. Let the other teams gamble on potential, and snatch productivity. IE - Guys like Brogdon, DDV > Wilson, Thon.
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Post#1595 » by Chapter29 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:13 pm

I love me some Donte and he's been a great surprise for us this year. Better than Brogdon? Come on now people.

Perhaps he will become a better player, but he isn't there at this moment.
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Post#1596 » by WRau1 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:45 pm

Chapter29 wrote:I love me some Donte and he's been a great surprise for us this year. Better than Brogdon? Come on now people.

Perhaps he will become a better player, but he isn't there at this moment.


His impact on this team is completely comparable to Brogdon's, some cases better.
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Post#1597 » by buckboy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:30 pm

Chapter29 wrote:I love me some Donte and he's been a great surprise for us this year. Better than Brogdon? Come on now people.

Perhaps he will become a better player, but he isn't there at this moment.


In terms of the right now, I'd say it's close, but Brogdon is better when he's actually on the court.

Taking into account availability, upside and contract it's not even close. Donte in a landslide.
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Re: Round 1 - Donte DiVincenzo 

Post#1598 » by HaroldinGMinor » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:47 pm

Here are some stats.

PER
DDV 14.8
MB 19

ORtg
DDV 110
MB 112

DRtg
DDV 99
MB 111

VORP
DDV 1.1
MB .9
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Re: Round 1 - Donte DiVincenzo 

Post#1599 » by Shaffty » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:51 pm

buckboy wrote:
Chapter29 wrote:I love me some Donte and he's been a great surprise for us this year. Better than Brogdon? Come on now people.

Perhaps he will become a better player, but he isn't there at this moment.


In terms of the right now, I'd say it's close, but Brogdon is better when he's actually on the court.

Taking into account availability, upside and contract it's not even close. Donte in a landslide.



Donte could never hit a 3 in his career and be more impactful on Defense alone than Brogdon is.
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Post#1600 » by H2tObes » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:06 pm

WRau1 wrote:
Chapter29 wrote:I love me some Donte and he's been a great surprise for us this year. Better than Brogdon? Come on now people.

Perhaps he will become a better player, but he isn't there at this moment.


His impact on this team is completely comparable to Brogdon's, some cases better.

It is better, Bucks are better with DDV on the court than they ever were with Brogdon. This does not directly correlate to DDV being a better player, but it does mean that DDV is a better fit for this team.
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