Bucks FA and offseason discussion - Ersan 3/21 3rd Year NG

Post #1 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:48 pm

Other thread maxed out.

emunney · Post #2 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:52 pm

FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.

Chuck Diesel · Post #3 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:53 pm

I just feel comfortable knowing Horst is at the helm & the owners are ready to weigh in when necessary.

skones · Post #4 » by **skones** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:56 pm

emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.

True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.

Nowak008 · Post #5 » by **Nowak008** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:57 pm

We need to capitalize on Brogs trade value. It will never be higher than right now.

Suns, Magic have cap space and assets - let's get out of our cap hell and refill the cupboard

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TroyD92 · Post #6 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:59 pm

Damn I didn't realize Brogdon is already 25.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #7 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:03 pm

skones wrote:
emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.

True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.

Wouldn't you have to include deadcap as well?

emunney · Post #8 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:03 pm

skones wrote:
emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.

True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.

I still have no idea what he's going to end up with. I'd be surprised with a huge fully guaranteed deal, and I'd be surprised if he takes the QO, but I feel like anything in the range of taking 2/20 from us to getting 4/80 from someone else feels firmly in play.

DanoMac · Post #9 » by **DanoMac** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:04 pm

Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.

emunney · Post #10 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:05 pm

DanoMac wrote:Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.

It's all about the pending contract.

Ron Swanson · Post #11 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:06 pm

Hell no to using valuable, young, and cost-controlled players just to dump a bad contract. Trade Middleton and Bledsoe if you're gonna try and maximize assets.

Nowak008 · Post #12 » by **Nowak008** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:06 pm

DanoMac wrote:Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.

He is the only tradable asset we have.

Don't have our first next year, Mid, Bledsoe are expiring... everyone else isn't worth a ham sandwich

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DanoMac · Post #13 » by **DanoMac** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:08 pm

Nowak008 wrote:
DanoMac wrote:Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.

He is the only tradable asset we have.

Don't have our first next year, Mid, Bledsoe are expiring... everyone else isn't worth a ham sandwich

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And what do you propose we trade him for? And I swear Nowak, if you come at me with a proposal for MKG or Cody Zeller I'm going to roll my eyes

emunney · Post #14 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:08 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
skones wrote:
emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.

True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.

Wouldn't you have to include deadcap as well?

FWIW I have their space at $18,785,688 if they renounce everybody.

skones · Post #15 » by **skones** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:09 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Hell no to using valuable, young, and cost-controlled players just to dump a bad contract. Trade Middleton and Bledsoe if you're gonna try and maximize assets.

Brogdon is not a young and cost controlled player.

DanoMac · Post #16 » by **DanoMac** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:10 pm

I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?

emunney · Post #17 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:14 pm

DanoMac wrote:I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?

What's the correct way to rate him? Is he one of the best 30 guards in the league?

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #18 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:15 pm

DanoMac wrote:I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?

He's a huge positive at 2m a year. When you are paying Giannis/Middleton a combined 50M+, is MB good value at $15m+ he might get on the open market? Especially for a guy who is going to be 25 and may not be a starter.

Personally, I set up my cards to clear space, keep his low cap hold, try to add a 3rd star and resign MB after but there are a lot of variables and I see the reason for trading him now if you don't think we are ECF material this year.

Wisky4life · Post #19 » by **Wisky4life** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:18 pm

Midds on a max sounds like trouble.....The only player on this roster warranted of a max is Giannis.

No one else should make over $20 million. That player just isn't on the roster yet.

LuessiT · Post #20 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:24 pm

DanoMac wrote:I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?

I wouldn't say underrated. I do rate him. But he's also probably going to make 15m as soon as 2019/2020.