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Bucks FA and offseason discussion - Ersan 3/21 3rd Year NG
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:48 pm
by paulpressey25
Other thread maxed out.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:52 pm
by emunney
FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:53 pm
by Chuck Diesel
I just feel comfortable knowing Horst is at the helm & the owners are ready to weigh in when necessary.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:56 pm
by skones
emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.
True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.
Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:57 pm
by Nowak008
We need to capitalize on Brogs trade value. It will never be higher than right now.
Suns, Magic have cap space and assets - let's get out of our cap hell and refill the cupboard
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Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:59 pm
by TroyD92
Damn I didn't realize Brogdon is already 25.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:03 pm
by MartyConlonOnTheRun
skones wrote:emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.
True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.
Wouldn't you have to include deadcap as well?
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:03 pm
by emunney
skones wrote:emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.
True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.
I still have no idea what he's going to end up with. I'd be surprised with a huge fully guaranteed deal, and I'd be surprised if he takes the QO, but I feel like anything in the range of taking 2/20 from us to getting 4/80 from someone else feels firmly in play.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:04 pm
by DanoMac
Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:05 pm
by emunney
DanoMac wrote:Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.
It's all about the pending contract.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:06 pm
by Ron Swanson
Hell no to using valuable, young, and cost-controlled players just to dump a bad contract. Trade Middleton and Bledsoe if you're gonna try and maximize assets.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:06 pm
by Nowak008
DanoMac wrote:Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.
He is the only tradable asset we have.
Don't have our first next year, Mid, Bledsoe are expiring... everyone else isn't worth a ham sandwich
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Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:08 pm
by DanoMac
Nowak008 wrote:DanoMac wrote:Remind me, aside from pending contract extension, why we're in such a hurry to trade Brogdon? Doesn't make any sense to me at all.
He is the only tradable asset we have.
Don't have our first next year, Mid, Bledsoe are expiring... everyone else isn't worth a ham sandwich
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And what do you propose we trade him for? And I swear Nowak, if you come at me with a proposal for MKG or Cody Zeller I'm going to roll my eyes
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:08 pm
by emunney
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:skones wrote:emunney wrote:FYI skones, I think you're not including Bagley in your cap space estimation for the Kings.
True. So maxish is like 22. At this point, I don't think Jabari get's 15M a year fwiw.
Wouldn't you have to include deadcap as well?
FWIW I have their space at $18,785,688 if they renounce everybody.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:09 pm
by skones
Ron Swanson wrote:Hell no to using valuable, young, and cost-controlled players just to dump a bad contract. Trade Middleton and Bledsoe if you're gonna try and maximize assets.
Brogdon is not a young and cost controlled player.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:10 pm
by DanoMac
I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:14 pm
by emunney
DanoMac wrote:I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?
What's the correct way to rate him? Is he one of the best 30 guards in the league?
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:15 pm
by MartyConlonOnTheRun
DanoMac wrote:I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?
He's a huge positive at 2m a year. When you are paying Giannis/Middleton a combined 50M+, is MB good value at $15m+ he might get on the open market? Especially for a guy who is going to be 25 and may not be a starter.
Personally, I set up my cards to clear space, keep his low cap hold, try to add a 3rd star and resign MB after but there are a lot of variables and I see the reason for trading him now if you don't think we are ECF material this year.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:18 pm
by Wisky4life
Midds on a max sounds like trouble.....The only player on this roster warranted of a max is Giannis.
No one else should make over $20 million. That player just isn't on the roster yet.
Re: Bucks FA and offseason discussion thread
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:24 pm
by LuessiT
DanoMac wrote:I guess I'm just confused. Is Brogdon still really that underrated around here?
I wouldn't say underrated. I do rate him. But he's also probably going to make 15m as soon as 2019/2020.