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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#161 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:08 pm

That was a fun game. I tuned in for the second half, glad I did
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#162 » by Iheartfootball » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:47 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:That was a fun game. I tuned in for the second half, glad I did


I caught most of the game as well. I thought they were toast after Howard went out. Then the closing shot of the first OT by McEwan had me upset. Wasn't sure how he couldn't get a better shot out of that possession. In the end it all worked out but it was an exciting game nonetheless.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#163 » by lessthannick11 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:29 pm

Most complete game they played this year. Defense was good, the ball was moving, and others hit shots.

They are starting to look like a solid team heading into March
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#164 » by Iheartfootball » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:04 pm

lessthannick11 wrote:Most complete game they played this year. Defense was good, the ball was moving, and others hit shots.

They are starting to look like a solid team heading into March


I was looking for this thread this weekend. Yes, I was impressed by how the team is beginning to evolve and gel and at the right time. It's a decent brand of basketball to watch. It does also add more anecdotal evidence to the 'college basketball is very homogeneous' argument. There is so much parity and not much separates the top from the bottom.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#165 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:50 pm

Good matchup tonight against Villanova.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#166 » by Mags FTW » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:45 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Good matchup tonight against Villanova.

They are playing at The Pavilion tonight. Factor that into any potential wagers.
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Post#167 » by Mags FTW » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:51 am

Creighton's Alexander looked great. Cold-blooded.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#168 » by lessthannick11 » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:25 pm

It seemed like Creighton shot 100% on shots after a big marquette run

Alexander was great
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#169 » by Mags FTW » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:37 pm

2nd game in a row where they weren't really close the final 10 minutes. They've gone from possibly getting a 4 seed to a low 6/high 7.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#170 » by tski1972 » Sat Mar 7, 2020 11:37 pm

lost again today, thats 6 losses in their last 7. team fell apart at the end of last season, lost the Hausers and now this, Woj can't possibly be back next year, can he?
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#171 » by Mags FTW » Sun Mar 8, 2020 12:31 am

tski1972 wrote:lost again today, thats 6 losses in their last 7. team fell apart at the end of last season, lost the Hausers and now this, Woj can't possibly be back next year, can he?

They have three 4-stars coming in next year. I don't think they'll want to risk losing any by letting him go. He also has 4 years left on his contact. Some boosters would have to pony up serious money for a buyout.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#172 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Mar 8, 2020 2:22 am

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tski1972 wrote:lost again today, thats 6 losses in their last 7. team fell apart at the end of last season, lost the Hausers and now this, Woj can't possibly be back next year, can he?

They have three 4-stars coming in next year. I don't think they'll want to risk losing any by letting him go. He also has 4 years left on his contact. Some boosters would have to pony up serious money for a buyout.


I don’t know much about the buyout but, “4 years left” is a standard thing with college coaches. They get renewed for that every year so they can actually recruit and other than some Shaka Smart situations, they buyout is not THAT large that boosters wouldn’t pay off the 4 years.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#173 » by 4xBuck » Sun Mar 8, 2020 11:01 am

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tski1972 wrote:They have three 4-stars coming in next year. I don't think they'll want to risk losing any by letting him go.


I think Garcia is pretty close to a 5-star guy. With Torrence from this year, there's a lot of good young talent on the roster. They just have to get them to perform up to their talent. UW gets better results with 3-star guys than UM does with 4-star guys and that needs to stop.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#174 » by neiLz » Sun Mar 8, 2020 11:00 pm

Has some talent every year yet under performs.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#175 » by DingleJerry » Mon Mar 9, 2020 4:50 pm

Popped into see if there's much discussion on Woj and more in tune MU fan's perspectives but I guess not much yet here. I'm much more passive on MU so don't know much. They'd be my #2 team, don't view it as some hated rival or anything.

I'd probably still hold him and see how the next run goes. Seems he kinda sold out and was all in with Howard and that hasn't worked. But, big pic you do have those good recruits coming and is there really a big line of people begging for this job? Basically, who else are you going to get that you're supremely confident will do better. They're clearly at kinda the solid/mediocre level but there's a big risk of turning into really bad like say a Depaul if they fire. Probably not worth the risk IMO. Though I fully acknowledge lack of knowledge here and am curious what others think who are more in tune.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#176 » by Mags FTW » Mon Mar 9, 2020 4:55 pm

Lunardi has them in his last 4 before the play-in games. If they lose in their first BET game, they may end up in Dayton. Or out altogether if there are some conference tourney upsets.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#177 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Mar 9, 2020 4:59 pm

I'll come in and provide a take as a Wisconsin guy as well. I don't see the situation as dire so might as well try it out another year.

That said, this was why I was the Gard guy. You can have a good Xs and Os coach accidentally fall into good players and become elite. Woj, by most's opinion, is not a great coach but can recruit. You can get the good talent but not fall into being a good coach.

So my one concern with, "let's see what happens with Garcia" is that

A. We've seen what he's done with a projected lotto pick do-everything forward and a green supporting cast in 2016
B. I understand there are other recruits coming in and you've got McEwen coming back. However, from my untrained eye, are there any other reliable guards. Is there a plan for grad transfer? Because even if Garcia and say one of the other recruits are studs as freshmen...you're still not going to go very far with iffy guard play/outside shooting, even if the forwards can hit some 3s.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#178 » by DingleJerry » Mon Mar 9, 2020 5:59 pm

Mags FTW wrote:Lunardi has them in his last 4 before the play-in games. If they lose in their first BET game, they may end up in Dayton. Or out altogether if there are some conference tourney upsets.


Thanks. Kinda surprised by that. I was actually just going over my sites title odds and they had MU about 45-1 ahead of lots of other teams who are clearly making the tourney and I thought this makes no sense, they're not even going to make the tournament. I guess not as bad as I thought then since they're still on the bubble. One weird one was LSU at 100-1. 12-6 conf and about 21-10 overall, should be in. BTW- UW dropped from 100-1 a couple weeks back to 38-1
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#179 » by Mags FTW » Mon Mar 9, 2020 9:17 pm

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Mags FTW wrote:Lunardi has them in his last 4 before the play-in games. If they lose in their first BET game, they may end up in Dayton. Or out altogether if there are some conference tourney upsets.


Thanks. Kinda surprised by that. I was actually just going over my sites title odds and they had MU about 45-1 ahead of lots of other teams who are clearly making the tourney and I thought this makes no sense, they're not even going to make the tournament. I guess not as bad as I thought then since they're still on the bubble. One weird one was LSU at 100-1. 12-6 conf and about 21-10 overall, should be in. BTW- UW dropped from 100-1 a couple weeks back to 38-1

Shot in the dark, but I'm guessing MU's odds are based on Howard's potential to get hot and put them on his back a la Kemba.
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Re: Marquette Hoops 2019/20 

Post#180 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Mar 9, 2020 10:31 pm

Mags FTW wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:Lunardi has them in his last 4 before the play-in games. If they lose in their first BET game, they may end up in Dayton. Or out altogether if there are some conference tourney upsets.


Thanks. Kinda surprised by that. I was actually just going over my sites title odds and they had MU about 45-1 ahead of lots of other teams who are clearly making the tourney and I thought this makes no sense, they're not even going to make the tournament. I guess not as bad as I thought then since they're still on the bubble. One weird one was LSU at 100-1. 12-6 conf and about 21-10 overall, should be in. BTW- UW dropped from 100-1 a couple weeks back to 38-1

Shot in the dark, but I'm guessing MU's odds are based on Howard's potential to get hot and put them on his back a la Kemba.


Broken record is here again: 90% of these odds are based on predictive models.

MU is a shade above LSU in KenPom.

Odds I’m seeing are 60/1 MU and 70/1 LSU. Some books can be out of wack on these, ive seen that before.

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