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Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:37 pm
by MickeyDavis
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Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:38 pm
by MickeyDavis
It's Shams he's calling out. Shams "reported" yesterday that Lue is joining the Clippers staff. Stein reported that last week.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:58 pm
by MikeIsGood
MickeyDavis wrote:It's Shams he's calling out. Shams "reported" yesterday that Lue is joining the Clippers staff. Stein reported that last week.


Eek. Does he have a history of doing this? That's poor form for sure.

Not excusing that in any way, but it's pretty amazing how much news Shams (appears to) break now. I think he's definitely become the go-to.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:18 pm
by emunney
The NBA breaking news thing is such a weird world. I'm not a journalist so I don't know what the ethical responsibilities are--are you supposed to read the twitter feed of every other NBA reporter before you tweet? Or credit them after the fact and Shams hasn't despite it having been brought to his attention? Like what specifically is the nature of Stein's beef, what harm has been done here, and what is his expectation?

Maybe it's because I think these guys all break news and they're all worthy follows, and maybe it's because I think who got there first on the latest Clippers assistant coach is as who cares as it gets, or maybe I don't like when people take personal disputes to social media instead of to the person, or maybe it's the fact that there's a massive fire in the Amazon rainforest, but I'm just not sure I'm grasping the necessity of going out of your way to poke someone in the eye over this.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:19 pm
by paulpressey25
Jez2983 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Joakim Noah is a treasure.


I appreciate his forthrightness more as I too age.


Remember-rules.

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Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:33 pm
by MikeIsGood
emunney wrote:The NBA breaking news thing is such a weird world. I'm not a journalist so I don't know what the ethical responsibilities are--are you supposed to read the twitter feed of every other NBA reporter before you tweet? Or credit them after the fact and Shams hasn't despite it having been brought to his attention? Like what specifically is the nature of Stein's beef, what harm has been done here, and what is his expectation?


I mean, crediting people has always been a thing. It is indeed journalistic integrity and ethics. That said, yes, I imagine that Twitter has thrown a wrench into things. Many do credit others even in Tweets (e.g. "as first reported by xyz").

And no, it's not like a world crisis, but that seems rather random to throw into the ring. Basketball and sports in general pale in comparison to world issues, too.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:44 pm
by MartyConlonOnTheRun
MickeyDavis wrote:It's Shams he's calling out. Shams "reported" yesterday that Lue is joining the Clippers staff. Stein reported that last week.

Did Matt Velasquez confirm it before or after Sham's? If it was after, I can understand Shams not validating the original "Breaking News"

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:54 pm
by Chuck Diesel
Marc Stein is a dork ass

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:01 pm
by ReasonablySober
emunney wrote:The NBA breaking news thing is such a weird world. I'm not a journalist so I don't know what the ethical responsibilities are--are you supposed to read the twitter feed of every other NBA reporter before you tweet? Or credit them after the fact and Shams hasn't despite it having been brought to his attention? Like what specifically is the nature of Stein's beef, what harm has been done here, and what is his expectation?

Maybe it's because I think these guys all break news and they're all worthy follows, and maybe it's because I think who got there first on the latest Clippers assistant coach is as who cares as it gets, or maybe I don't like when people take personal disputes to social media instead of to the person, or maybe it's the fact that there's a massive fire in the Amazon rainforest, but I'm just not sure I'm grasping the necessity of going out of your way to poke someone in the eye over this.


I'll give the MLB media credit, they consistently seem like they are on-top of crediting who breaks what story first (sometimes within a couple minutes).

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:10 pm
by MickeyDavis
Chuck Diesel wrote:Marc Stein is a dork ass

And he's right.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:15 pm
by Chuck Diesel
MickeyDavis wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Marc Stein is a dork ass

And he's right.


He should @Shams then. There are like ten thousand dudes at the Athletic with different roles wide range of abilities, which is why he quickly apologized/backtracked.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:07 pm
by Ruzious
Plossum wrote:Rose should get in. He was really good. I get the injuries and severe downturn in his production have cruelled his chances but the guy is a former MVP. His flame burned briefly but brightly.

He was great, but it was for such a short period of time - and he's been such a disappointment since then often with a blatant me-first attitude. Overall, he has not represented himself well off the court. I think his chances are very small.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:08 pm
by Ruzious
emunney wrote:Joe Johnson will make it, I'd bet on it.

Is there a Hall of Very Good?

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:22 pm
by emunney
Ruzious wrote:
emunney wrote:Joe Johnson will make it, I'd bet on it.

Is there a Hall of Very Good?


If he doesn't make it, he'll lead all non-HoFers in total points and all-star selections.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:26 pm
by emunney
Did you guys know LeBron has played exactly 100 more playoff games than Kevin Durant?

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:29 pm
by Wooderson
paulpressey25 wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Joakim Noah is a treasure.


I appreciate his forthrightness more as I too age.


Remember-rules.

Image

Didn't realize there was someone other than Noah in this pic until seeing the third pane

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:53 pm
by Iheartfootball
What ever happened to speaking directly to someone you have beef with instead of shouting it from the mountain top? I would blame twitter but it's an individual user's responsibility to determine how they want to communicate. I suppose we are all still learning how to use technology. I'm optimistic that 10 years from now we use social media more responsibly.

*stepping off soap box now*

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:59 pm
by MikeIsGood
Iheartfootball wrote:I'm optimistic that 10 years from now we use social media more responsibly.


Oh...you're so funny :)

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:01 pm
by Ron Swanson
Stein may be right in this instance (idk if Shams has a history of this sort of thing), but in typical Marc Stein fashion, he's being petty as **** about it. Sorry if I don't exactly put tweeting already tweeted sports news in the category of intellectual theft and plagiarism.

Re: ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:07 pm
by BroncoBuck
Has anyone else been listening to the 30 for 30 podcast on the whole Donald Sterling fiasco? I found it absolutely fascinating.