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Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:28 pm
by EastSideBucksFan
Malika did an in depth profile on Bledsoe's struggles and what he's done to counter them before this years playoffs.

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Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:29 pm
by Chuck Diesel
EastSideBucksFan wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:

Jabari hardly ever played defense. Eric always does, nervous or not.


Yeah I’m not equating them as players. Bledsoe’s been open about his anxiety and it was apparent right away Jabari had something cooking. Maybe it’s just a learning disability? There’s some disconnect there. Just wondering how the Bucks view/handle the brains of their guys.



JS just did a profile on Bucks sports psychologist. Sounds he's not returning though.

Read on Twitter


Ahh missed that. Thanks.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:34 pm
by mattg
skones wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:looool at Gasol being rated so close to Lopez and also only 7 points lower than a guy we just handed a near max contract. :lol:


Middleton got hosed. Derozan, Booker, Mitchell, Lavine, McCollum, Lou Williams, Hield, Gallinari, Tatum, all rated higher despite none of those guys being better than him last season.

And Doncic, though I don't really have a gripe with that given what he did last season and projecting him forward.

Lopez also hosed, though his lack of box score stuffing obviously contributed.

Besides the fact that it seems no one in here fully understands that overall rating isn’t and hasn’t been the end all be all regarding how a player plays in 2k for almost a decade. I’d like to hear why Middleton was better than Lou Williams, Gallinari, Or Booker last year.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:24 pm
by Zeezprah
I actually that Middleton’s rating is about right. Bledsoe should be higher than Middleton.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:26 pm
by skones
mattg wrote:
skones wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:looool at Gasol being rated so close to Lopez and also only 7 points lower than a guy we just handed a near max contract. :lol:


Middleton got hosed. Derozan, Booker, Mitchell, Lavine, McCollum, Lou Williams, Hield, Gallinari, Tatum, all rated higher despite none of those guys being better than him last season.

And Doncic, though I don't really have a gripe with that given what he did last season and projecting him forward.

Lopez also hosed, though his lack of box score stuffing obviously contributed.

Besides the fact that it seems no one in here fully understands that overall rating isn’t and hasn’t been the end all be all regarding how a player plays in 2k for almost a decade. I’d like to hear why Middleton was better than Lou Williams, Gallinari, Or Booker last year.


Well for starters, RAPM rank:

Middleton 24th
Gallinari 48th
Williams 166th
Booker 435th

There are two sides to the floor. Middleton was a positive contributor on both ends, and he's the only one who was. People around here like to **** on Middleton for the player he isn't instead of appreciating the player he actually is. Is he worth his deal? No. Is he really **** good, yes.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:29 am
by TGW
slos wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Bledsoe isn’t getting you Beal. Dream on.


Well the offer proposed is Bledsoe to a third team and three FRPs. The problem is that the IND pick is lottery protected and that our two next available picks are in 2024 and 2026. Still I think some of DDV, Brown, Wilson has to be involved. Hopefully WAS is high on at least one of these players.


Nope, they aren't.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:33 am
by MVP2110
Zeezprah wrote:I actually that Middleton’s rating is about right. Bledsoe should be higher than Middleton.


You think he's the 57th best player in the NBA?

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:55 am
by GBPackers47
MVP2110 wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:I actually that Middleton’s rating is about right. Bledsoe should be higher than Middleton.


You think he's the 57th best player in the NBA?


Someone that made First Team All-Defense? Yea.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:55 am
by blazza18
We thinking 2k looks at RAPM before deciding on their own player rankings?

Middleton is boring. That's essentially why those other guys are higher than him.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:23 am
by mattg
skones wrote:
mattg wrote:
skones wrote:
Middleton got hosed. Derozan, Booker, Mitchell, Lavine, McCollum, Lou Williams, Hield, Gallinari, Tatum, all rated higher despite none of those guys being better than him last season.

And Doncic, though I don't really have a gripe with that given what he did last season and projecting him forward.

Lopez also hosed, though his lack of box score stuffing obviously contributed.

Besides the fact that it seems no one in here fully understands that overall rating isn’t and hasn’t been the end all be all regarding how a player plays in 2k for almost a decade. I’d like to hear why Middleton was better than Lou Williams, Gallinari, Or Booker last year.


Well for starters, RAPM rank:

Middleton 24th
Gallinari 48th
Williams 166th
Booker 435th

There are two sides to the floor. Middleton was a positive contributor on both ends, and he's the only one who was. People around here like to **** on Middleton for the player he isn't instead of appreciating the player he actually is. Is he worth his deal? No. Is he really **** good, yes.

I mean are you’re gonna only use rapm as a strict ranking of who’s better? Really?

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:46 am
by GHOSTofSIKMA
mattg wrote:
skones wrote:
mattg wrote:Besides the fact that it seems no one in here fully understands that overall rating isn’t and hasn’t been the end all be all regarding how a player plays in 2k for almost a decade. I’d like to hear why Middleton was better than Lou Williams, Gallinari, Or Booker last year.


Well for starters, RAPM rank:

Middleton 24th
Gallinari 48th
Williams 166th
Booker 435th

There are two sides to the floor. Middleton was a positive contributor on both ends, and he's the only one who was. People around here like to **** on Middleton for the player he isn't instead of appreciating the player he actually is. Is he worth his deal? No. Is he really **** good, yes.

I mean are you’re gonna only use rapm as a strict ranking of who’s better? Really?


not a bad starting point honestly

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:11 am
by MVP2110
GBPackers47 wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Zeezprah wrote:I actually that Middleton’s rating is about right. Bledsoe should be higher than Middleton.


You think he's the 57th best player in the NBA?


Someone that made First Team All-Defense? Yea.


You said Middleton was about right. According to those ratings he would be tied for 57th

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:21 am
by jakecronus8
In regards to the whole 2k rating thing, the ratings are naturally a composite of a multitude of skill ratings. My guess would be that it’d be hard to disagree with a ton of those individual skill ratings that make up his composite. He’s just average to good at a lot of things.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:34 pm
by tski1972
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Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:09 pm
by Chuck Diesel
Welp, today’s Dragan Bender signing concludes our summer of 2019 roster suggestions. It’s been an absolute pleasure. Unless you freaks wanna go back and forth on some Exhibit 10 candidates...

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:33 pm
by Je K
Chuck Diesel wrote:Welp, today’s Dragan Bender signing concludes our summer of 2019 roster suggestions. It’s been an absolute pleasure. Unless you freaks wanna go back and forth on some Exhibit 10 candidates...

I can't **** believe we signed **** Luke Maye. He can't do ****. This is a classic Herb Kohl Exhibit 10 signing. If the owners (they're Billionaires with a B in case you forgot) would be willing to spend a little money, we could have gotten Aubrey Dawkins. Now you tell me who you'd rather have on that training camp deal. But instead, we're stuck with Luke **** Maye. Team is going to **** now that Lasry took over. Unbelievable. Classic Bucks treadmill move.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm
by Chuck Diesel
Looks like my guy Jock Landale was in the running for the final spot until Bender signed. He’ll now head off to Lithuania/The Euroleague.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/911728/jock-landale-for-sure-i-will-play-for-zalgiris/

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:48 pm
by Ruzious
Chuck Diesel wrote:Looks like my guy Jock Landale was in the running for the final spot until Bender signed. He’ll now head off to Lithuania/The Euroleague.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/911728/jock-landale-for-sure-i-will-play-for-zalgiris/

Then it was a good decision. From what I saw of SL, it was obvious Landale is not NBA material.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:51 pm
by Chuck Diesel
Ruzious wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Looks like my guy Jock Landale was in the running for the final spot until Bender signed. He’ll now head off to Lithuania/The Euroleague.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/911728/jock-landale-for-sure-i-will-play-for-zalgiris/

Then it was a good decision. From what I saw of SL, it was obvious Landale is not NBA material.


Disagree but we’ll see. The Bucks obviously gave him strong consideration.

Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:14 pm
by Ruzious
Chuck Diesel wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:Looks like my guy Jock Landale was in the running for the final spot until Bender signed. He’ll now head off to Lithuania/The Euroleague.

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/911728/jock-landale-for-sure-i-will-play-for-zalgiris/

Then it was a good decision. From what I saw of SL, it was obvious Landale is not NBA material.


Disagree but we’ll see. The Bucks obviously gave him strong consideration.

Terrible athlete and he couldn't shoot unless he was completely set - which took him far too long to go against NBA teams. No way he can compete against NBA athletes.