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Post#81 » by FlagsFlyForever » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:22 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:It’s not like signing a 10 year vet in Robin who’s proven himself.

It's exactly like this. Robin sucks and he's only on the roster because the Bucks wanted to sign Brook. It's not ideal but if the Bucks lock up Giannis long-term, then you can say this was a good signing.


Nah. Even if your subjective perspective is that Robin “sucks”, there’s no disputing that NBA teams have valued his services for a decade. Thanasis couldn’t make the NBA a few years ago and has proven himself a 9th man in the Euroleague. Robin is an NBA player on 29 other teams absent from Brook. Not the case with Thanasis.

Biyombo also had his services valued by NBA teams but it doesn't make him a quality bench option. I'm sure Robin would've found a minimum contract somewhere if not for the Bucks (unlike Thanasis), but the bottom line is it's unlikely he is on the Bucks if not for Brook.
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Post#82 » by TroyD92 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:33 am

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ElPeregrino wrote:It's exactly like this. Robin sucks and he's only on the roster because the Bucks wanted to sign Brook. It's not ideal but if the Bucks lock up Giannis long-term, then you can say this was a good signing.


Nah. Even if your subjective perspective is that Robin “sucks”, there’s no disputing that NBA teams have valued his services for a decade. Thanasis couldn’t make the NBA a few years ago and has proven himself a 9th man in the Euroleague. Robin is an NBA player on 29 other teams absent from Brook. Not the case with Thanasis.

Biyombo also had his services valued by NBA teams but it doesn't make him a quality bench option. I'm sure Robin would've found a minimum contract somewhere if not for the Bucks (unlike Thanasis), but the bottom line is it's unlikely he is on the Bucks if not for Brook.


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Post#83 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:36 am

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ElPeregrino wrote:It's exactly like this. Robin sucks and he's only on the roster because the Bucks wanted to sign Brook. It's not ideal but if the Bucks lock up Giannis long-term, then you can say this was a good signing.


Nah. Even if your subjective perspective is that Robin “sucks”, there’s no disputing that NBA teams have valued his services for a decade. Thanasis couldn’t make the NBA a few years ago and has proven himself a 9th man in the Euroleague. Robin is an NBA player on 29 other teams absent from Brook. Not the case with Thanasis.

Biyombo also had his services valued by NBA teams but it doesn't make him a quality bench option. I'm sure Robin would've found a minimum contract somewhere if not for the Bucks (unlike Thanasis), but the bottom line is it's unlikely he is on the Bucks if not for Brook.


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Post#84 » by raferfenix » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:44 am

At least Giannis is good.

Makes this better than when we drafted Tiny Gallon because he was boys with Brandon Jennings.
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Post#85 » by bizarro » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:53 am

raferfenix wrote:At least Giannis is good.

Makes this better than when we drafted Tiny Gallon because he was boys with Brandon Jennings.


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Post#86 » by DrWood » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:54 am

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OK, we get it. He can't guard Chris Paul or James Harden. We'll probably not play the Rockets in the playoffs.
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Post#88 » by Commenter » Fri Jul 5, 2019 3:34 am

anyone who is this bent out of shape over the robin lopez signing... my god, enjoy things. he’s decent! He’s cheap! He’s goofy! it’s a good signing. But, I know we should have put that money toward Bongo Dengi from the e-league affiliate in Kenosha.
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Post#89 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Jul 5, 2019 3:34 am

ElPeregrino wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:It's exactly like this. Robin sucks and he's only on the roster because the Bucks wanted to sign Brook. It's not ideal but if the Bucks lock up Giannis long-term, then you can say this was a good signing.


Nah. Even if your subjective perspective is that Robin “sucks”, there’s no disputing that NBA teams have valued his services for a decade. Thanasis couldn’t make the NBA a few years ago and has proven himself a 9th man in the Euroleague. Robin is an NBA player on 29 other teams absent from Brook. Not the case with Thanasis.

Biyombo also had his services valued by NBA teams but it doesn't make him a quality bench option. I'm sure Robin would've found a minimum contract somewhere if not for the Bucks (unlike Thanasis), but the bottom line is it's unlikely he is on the Bucks if not for Brook.


K. You don’t like Robin Lopez. Got it. He had the $4.8 offer from multiple teams and would’ve been in high demand had he been bought out by the Bulls last winter. The better question is would he have chosen the Bucks if Brook wasn’t here? Probably not. He felt vicarious twin vibes when he traveled with the team in the playoffs and wanted in. The Biyombo comp is funny though.
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Post#90 » by Commenter » Fri Jul 5, 2019 3:34 am

long story short this team is still going to be really **** good next year
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Post#91 » by mke_design » Fri Jul 5, 2019 3:40 am

Commenter wrote:long story short this team is still going to be really **** good next year


Yeah it’s like people forgot we have the MVP on our team still


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Post#92 » by thonnisbeastley » Fri Jul 5, 2019 3:46 am

Don't quite get the Robin Lopez hate or the argument that he's only on the team because of Brook. So what? It's a cheap deal and he gives us an actual 5 with some size off the bench who can hustle and play defense. We'd have been so much better off in the Toronto series bringing RoLo off the bench to bother Gasol as opposed to matching Giannis or Ersan up on him. We had 0 size or post presence when Brook was on the bench. The small ball lineup works great against certain teams but RoLo fills a need for us at a fair price. From a chemistry stand point it's a great thing as well..The brothers are chasing a ring together. They will push eachother to work harder and come in to this season as prepared as possible.
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Post#93 » by Coach Carter » Fri Jul 5, 2019 3:54 am

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https://www.theringer.com/the-bill-simmons-podcast/2019/7/2/20680332/the-kawhi-sweepstakes-a-warriors-reboot-knicks-wtf-update-and-summer-conspiracies-with-ryen-russilloThis Simmons pod is fantastic.

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Though kind of obvious, Bill said that phili getting horford is their plan to stop giannis (also factoring in that kawhi is going west).

Teams that win get studied, copied by their rivals. The blue print is there to stop giannis, especially since he doesn't pass it well enough under that kind of pressure. I think though it takes a lot of discipline and a collective effort. Kawhi, gasol, siakam, ibaka didn't let up all series. Horford doesn't give up on d, never but will ben simmons and embiid follow suit? They're good defenders though can be nonchalant. Then there's embiid's health, not to mention horford eventually got drained having to guard giannis. Not gonna lie though, their length is scary and i'm predicting lots of load management for embiid. I actually think, this is the number one reason why they got horford.
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Post#94 » by ClassicJack » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:10 am

Still nothing legit about Thanasis out there but this ain't the nepotism that ruins the world. This is closer to getting a good job and putting your guy on. We could do worse with the last roster spot than trying to make sure Giannis signs that super max.
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Post#95 » by JEIS » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:26 am

ClassicJack wrote:Still nothing legit about Thanasis out there but this ain't the nepotism that ruins the world. This is closer to getting a good job and putting your guy on. We could do worse with the last roster spot than trying to make sure Giannis signs that super max.




Yardbarker said he signed a 1.5 mil per year for 2 year deal fully guaranteed deal.
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Post#96 » by mke_design » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:33 am

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ClassicJack wrote:Still nothing legit about Thanasis out there but this ain't the nepotism that ruins the world. This is closer to getting a good job and putting your guy on. We could do worse with the last roster spot than trying to make sure Giannis signs that super max.




Yardbarker said he signed a 1.5 mil per year for 2 year deal fully guaranteed deal.


Giving him a fully guaranteed deal wouldn’t make sense when nobody is asking for his services. I would imagine this is coming from the Greek team or an agent for posturing if any of this is even remotely true.


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Post#97 » by TroyD92 » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:47 am

Makes zero sense. So I doubt it. Woj or Shams would have broken it.
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Post#98 » by Ayt » Fri Jul 5, 2019 4:51 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:It's exactly like this. Robin sucks and he's only on the roster because the Bucks wanted to sign Brook. It's not ideal but if the Bucks lock up Giannis long-term, then you can say this was a good signing.


Nah. Even if your subjective perspective is that Robin “sucks”, there’s no disputing that NBA teams have valued his services for a decade. Thanasis couldn’t make the NBA a few years ago and has proven himself a 9th man in the Euroleague. Robin is an NBA player on 29 other teams absent from Brook. Not the case with Thanasis.



I'd rather sign Giannis's brother than Vince Carter, who has been suggested. Thanasis serves a role (family). Carter does not. Thansasis and Korver are good signings.


Carter is good at basketball. Thanasis is not.
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Post#99 » by theFireBlanket » Fri Jul 5, 2019 5:42 am

TroyD92 wrote:Makes zero sense. So I doubt it. Woj or Shams would have broken it.


Woelfel, my man. Really though... They don't scoop everything & this kind of thing feels more likely to come out of Greece. Thanasis will be a Buck Saturday.


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Post#100 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Jul 5, 2019 6:04 am

Always be dubious of Euro reporting. If they’re saying it’s 2 years, $3 million it could very well actually be a partial guarantee training camp invite. Let’s not forget the insane Mirotic numbers thrown around last week (6 years, $78 million) when the real deal was a backloaded four years, $19 million with all kinds of team options.

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