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Re: 2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - News, Trades and Transactions - Thabeet to work out 

Post#261 » by DrWood » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:58 am

slos wrote:Could this work? What do you think?

Milwaukee: Beal
Portland: Bledsoe
Washington: Bazemore, Ilyasova, Wilson, DDV, POR 2020 FRP, IND 2020 FRP, MIL 2024 FRP, IND 2021 SRP, POR 2022 SRP

Why Milwaukee? Beal...
Why Portland? Bled would be a great 6th to them and they cut 3,7 mil.
Why Washington? They sell Beal for three FRPs and two SRPs, two young players and two large expirings to trade for more picks.

that makes the bucks worse now and longer-term.
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Post#262 » by tedbrogen » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:21 am

DrWood wrote:
slos wrote:Could this work? What do you think?

Milwaukee: Beal
Portland: Bledsoe
Washington: Bazemore, Ilyasova, Wilson, DDV, POR 2020 FRP, IND 2020 FRP, MIL 2024 FRP, IND 2021 SRP, POR 2022 SRP

Why Milwaukee? Beal...
Why Portland? Bled would be a great 6th to them and they cut 3,7 mil.
Why Washington? They sell Beal for three FRPs and two SRPs, two young players and two large expirings to trade for more picks.

that makes the bucks worse now and longer-term.


Yeah, not certain who is going to chase fast guards around screens when Bledsoe and DDV are gone. I guess one of Hill or PatCon would have to be on the floor at all times because Beal certainly will not/can not do that. Can't drop Brook back to the paint without guards at the point of attack who can and are willing to fight through screens and contest from behind. My understanding is that Beal is average or worse as a defender and would fit poorly in Bud's defensive system as it is currently constructed.
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Post#263 » by bucksfansince88 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:26 am

Reuniting Tim Hardaway Jr. with Bud is the move i want us to make, shouldn’t require too many assets to get that done.
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Post#264 » by blazza18 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:36 am

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Post#265 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:49 am

We have a whole “Media Thread” tho...
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Post#266 » by raferfenix » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:54 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:Reuniting Tim Hardaway Jr. with Bud is the move i want us to make, shouldn’t require too many assets to get that done.


Challenge for any trades we want to make is that we don't have many big contract slots of guys we want to drop.

Ersan is only paid $7 mill per year. Hardaway is $20.

Bledsoe at $15 is the biggest contract slot we have of someone we might put on the market (but no I don't think we'd trade him for Hardaway unless we'd be getting a lot more in a package).

However any Bledsoe trade creates a big hole at PG we'd immediately need to fill. Even if we'd start George Hill we'd need a top flight back up since he's injury prone.
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Post#267 » by Zeezprah » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:18 pm

No idea why people are wanting to get rid of Bledsoe. He was our 2nd best player all year last year. Get he had a bad stretch in the playoffs, but he’s crucial to this teams success.
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Post#268 » by jschligs » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:31 pm

Zeezprah wrote:No idea why people are wanting to get rid of Bledsoe. He was our 2nd best player all year last year. Get he had a bad stretch in the playoffs, but he’s crucial to this teams success.



I think recency bias and the fact that it came in such an important series is what's causing it. Man, I think about it, if he would've been smarter in the final minutes of game 3 we would've been up 3-0 and most likely would've been able to seal the series.

However, I'm not ready to trade him. He had plenty of huge moments throughout the season and his defense is often overlooked by posters here. I think with last year under his belt he can definitely improve and play smarter.
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Post#269 » by raferfenix » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:38 pm

I only trade Bledsoe if we're getting a great return.

And I could see a great return potentially being available for all the same reasons where our front office values him.

Totally possible Bledsoe pulls a Lowry and turns it around in the playoffs.

Also possible a team not in the immediate running for a championship values what he brings in the regular season even more than we do.
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Post#270 » by coolhandluke121 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:44 pm

Honestly I think Bledsoe might need to get out of the weight room for a while. Watching him shoot is like watching a quarry man sew doll clothes. There must be a point at which those shoulders are just in the way.
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Post#271 » by EastSideBucksFan » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:49 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Honestly I think Bledsoe might need to get out of the weight room for a while. Watching him shoot is like watching a quarry man sew doll clothes. There must be a point at which those shoulders are just in the way.



Reminds me of Dez Mason second offseason with Bucks.

Came into camp just jacked. Lost all touch and progress on his jump shot.
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Post#272 » by All The Bucks » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:24 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Honestly I think Bledsoe might need to get out of the weight room for a while. Watching him shoot is like watching a quarry man sew doll clothes. There must be a point at which those shoulders are just in the way.


Careful. Don't make this comment on BFAN.net. The mouth breathers there don't believe there is any such thing as too little or too much when it comes to building a sport specific, athletic body.
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Post#273 » by MVP2110 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:01 pm

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Post#274 » by MVP2110 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:01 pm

34% from 3 in the g league last year. 33% in the NBA. 6'2 PG who is 23 years old. Was a two way with Atlanta
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Post#275 » by MVP2110 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:05 pm

Velasquez says they are targeting him for the Herd. Herd might have a fun team down there this year
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Post#276 » by trwi7 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:07 pm

MVP2110 wrote:Velasquez says they are targeting him for the Herd. Herd might have a fun team down there this year


Don't you mean up there or even "up der"?
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Post#277 » by MVP2110 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:08 pm

trwi7 wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:Velasquez says they are targeting him for the Herd. Herd might have a fun team down there this year


Don't you mean up there or even "up der"?


Live in Neenah so for me it's down there :lol:
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Post#278 » by BroncoBuck » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:11 pm

I’d rather have Joe Young or Chasson Randle than Jaylen Adams. Adams is younger though. I’ve always liked Randle and I hope he is able to find a long term spot in the league some day.

Edit-Just read Randle is heading to China. Apparently he is part of the US Select team that bodied the main team though lol. Somebody give that man a contract.
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Post#279 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:12 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:I’d rather have Joe Young or Chasson Randle than Jaylen Adams. Adams is younger though. I’ve always liked Randle and I hope he is able to find a long term spot in the league some day.


Both of those dudes are signed with Chinese teams
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Post#280 » by coolhandluke121 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:42 pm

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coolhandluke121 wrote:Honestly I think Bledsoe might need to get out of the weight room for a while. Watching him shoot is like watching a quarry man sew doll clothes. There must be a point at which those shoulders are just in the way.


Careful. Don't make this comment on BFAN.net. The mouth breathers there don't believe there is any such thing as too little or too much when it comes to building a sport specific, athletic body.


Oh god, don't get me started. I mean, it's a baseball forum first, so it makes sense that they wouldn't notice nuances like that, considering it doesn't matter much in baseball. But holy hell, they are so damn sure there are no nuances to notice in the first place. Khris Middleton fitness is basically the same as Reggie Miller fitness as far as they're concerned. And saying Brogdon could be quicker if he slimmed down a little doesn't make sense to them because Fred Van Vleet isn't slim and he's quicker than Brogdon.

The funniest part was when Brogdon said in his exit interview that he wanted to shed some weight, and instead of acknowledging that I might have had a point all along, they all doubled down on the "it doesn't matter" tirade, with a moderator leading the charge. Can't wait to see what they say if/when Khris admits that his conditioning and physique were substandard. It looks like he's made some progress in that regard, but it will have to stick for the difference to show, and he won't ever acknowledge that it was an issue until it becomes a thing of the past. These guys basically never admit it's an issue until after they've addressed it. That way they can spin it in a way that reflects well on their professionalism, when in reality it's unprofessional to ever have it be a problem in the first place.

ETA: Talking more about Khris and not so much Brogdon. I think Brogdon's conditioning is fine but he might have more upper body muscle than ideal for quickness and lower body burden, and it's not like he's super skinny either. Khris just has a lazy streak.
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