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Post#1921 » by Mihai » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:30 pm

skones wrote:Playoff choker Demar Derozan was moved as the primary piece in a Kawhi Leonard deal. It's ridiculous the way Bledsoe is being treated as entirely unplayable and this unmovable albatross without assets attached on the trade board.

On a team where he doesn't have to worry about staying out of the paint so Giannis can get downhill, he provides something a lot of teams lack as a guy who can get into the teeth of the defense and finish around the rim.


He didn’t do that in the games where Giannis was out. If ever there was a moment....
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Post#1922 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:37 pm

Bledsoes value takes a little hit because he's not really the vet leader type that a young rebuilding team would want. Probably best suited for a good team that needs a guard defender.

Utah with conley is really the only one that comes to mind that could send a lead guard back in that type of a deal but if you expand to 3 team deals it opens up some possibilities.

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Post#1923 » by skones » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:39 pm

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skones wrote:Playoff choker Demar Derozan was moved as the primary piece in a Kawhi Leonard deal. It's ridiculous the way Bledsoe is being treated as entirely unplayable and this unmovable albatross without assets attached on the trade board.

On a team where he doesn't have to worry about staying out of the paint so Giannis can get downhill, he provides something a lot of teams lack as a guy who can get into the teeth of the defense and finish around the rim.


He didn’t do that in the games where Giannis was out. If ever there was a moment....
In the playoffs, obviously not. During the regular season? More often than not he did.

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Post#1924 » by DrWood » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:11 am

mke_design wrote:I am still on board to try and get Lavine. If anyone can make him a defender, it's bud right?

no. and he's a ball-hog.
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Post#1925 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:17 am

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mke_design wrote:I am still on board to try and get Lavine. If anyone can make him a defender, it's bud right?

no. and he's a ball-hog.


We should try to get his workout partner instead, Shaq Harrison. Premier defender with a massively improved offensive game. Former PG who can handle it well, he shot the 3 well this year too. Strong and physical make him a good fit for playoff basketball. RFA, but the Bulls have no bird rights with him. Rare situation.
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Post#1926 » by DrWood » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:24 am

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Bucksfan28 wrote:Bled's pull-up 3pt% has actually been his bread-and-butter the last two seasons (39%). And his RS numbers overall aren't that terrible, he seems to hover around 34%. I could see several teams being able to reconcile that with what they're getting on defense.

I wonder if Dallas would be interested.


Would do Bled for Curry/Kleber in a heartbeat. Also really like Brunson and Finney Smith.


Yea I had Seth as the starting point and could go a number of different ways. Like all three of those dudes you mention and also wonder where theyre at with THJ. He was strokin the 3-ball this year.

Seth is not a starting PG. He has value, but not as that.
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Post#1927 » by Bucksfan28 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:27 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:
Would do Bled for Curry/Kleber in a heartbeat. Also really like Brunson and Finney Smith.


Yea I had Seth as the starting point and could go a number of different ways. Like all three of those dudes you mention and also wonder where theyre at with THJ. He was strokin the 3-ball this year.

Seth is not a starting PG. He has value, but not as that.


Yea, poor phrasing on my part. Didnt literally mean he would be the starting PG, just that I would want him coming back in any deal and the other players could vary.
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Post#1928 » by DrWood » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:27 am

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DrWood wrote:
mke_design wrote:I am still on board to try and get Lavine. If anyone can make him a defender, it's bud right?

no. and he's a ball-hog.


We should try to get his workout partner instead, Shaq Harrison. Premier defender with a massively improved offensive game. Former PG who can handle it well, he shot the 3 well this year too. Strong and physical make him a good fit for playoff basketball. RFA, but the Bulls have no bird rights with him. Rare situation.

he's not a needle-mover, but I wouldn't mind signing him, if possible.
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Post#1929 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:35 am

DrWood wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
DrWood wrote:no. and he's a ball-hog.


We should try to get his workout partner instead, Shaq Harrison. Premier defender with a massively improved offensive game. Former PG who can handle it well, he shot the 3 well this year too. Strong and physical make him a good fit for playoff basketball. RFA, but the Bulls have no bird rights with him. Rare situation.

he's not a needle-mover, but I wouldn't mind signing him, if possible.
Added bonus his brother Monte helped the brewers land Yelich.

I've liked him since his phoenix days. He'd be a nice 10th man type that you can stick on good perimeter players and make them work.

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Post#1930 » by blazza18 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:59 am

DrWood wrote:
mke_design wrote:I am still on board to try and get Lavine. If anyone can make him a defender, it's bud right?

no. and he's a ball-hog.


Could be a good thing on this team..
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Post#1931 » by Badgerlander » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:13 am

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mke_design wrote:I am still on board to try and get Lavine. If anyone can make him a defender, it's bud right?

no. and he's a ball-hog.


Could be a good thing on this team..


Nah LaVine tore an acl, don’t know too many players that became good defenders after that injury
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Post#1932 » by Prez » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:32 am

Yea I'm ready to be irrationally optimistic and eventually super disappointed by Lavine, get it done Horst
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Post#1933 » by StickeeFingaz » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:38 am

DrWood wrote:
mke_design wrote:I am still on board to try and get Lavine. If anyone can make him a defender, it's bud right?

no. and he's a ball-hog.


And who else should be taking those shots on that stacked Bulls team?
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Post#1934 » by blazza18 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:41 am

Badgerlander wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
DrWood wrote:no. and he's a ball-hog.


Could be a good thing on this team..


Nah LaVine tore an acl, don’t know too many players that became good defenders after that injury


Can obviously live with that if he's a positive for us on the other end.
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Post#1935 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 am

So much for anymore Bledsoe to the Nuggets ideas
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Post#1936 » by skones » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:13 am

Badgerlander wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
DrWood wrote:no. and he's a ball-hog.


Could be a good thing on this team..


Nah LaVine tore an acl, don’t know too many players that became good defenders after that injury


The injury isn't stopping him from being a good defender, it's his brain, as it is for pretty much every player.
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Post#1937 » by skones » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:33 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:So much for anymore Bledsoe to the Nuggets ideas


If they get waxed by the Lakers, those conversations will certainly be pertinent.
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Post#1938 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:06 am

skones wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:So much for anymore Bledsoe to the Nuggets ideas


If they get waxed by the Lakers, those conversations will certainly be pertinent.


Maybe for Will Barton. No way they’re moving Morris or Harris now.
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Post#1939 » by midranger » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:13 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
skones wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:So much for anymore Bledsoe to the Nuggets ideas


If they get waxed by the Lakers, those conversations will certainly be pertinent.


Maybe for Will Barton. No way they’re moving Morris or Harris now.

Those bozos? They're just cap filler for a rebuilding team. Nugz would have to send out picks to get rid of them. And so forth....
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Post#1940 » by skones » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:14 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
skones wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:So much for anymore Bledsoe to the Nuggets ideas


If they get waxed by the Lakers, those conversations will certainly be pertinent.


Maybe for Will Barton. No way they’re moving Morris or Harris now.


I have absolutely no clue as to why they wouldn't. Neither guy has scorched the earth. If they feel like they're missing something and the guy they're acquiring is a considerable upgrade, I don't see why to rule it out right now.

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