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Re: ATL - RIP Jerry Sloan - Page 77 

Post#1541 » by PackAttack9 » Fri May 22, 2020 6:40 pm

JayMKE wrote:RIP coach

I knew he was quite ill for some time, Bucks wanted to hire him instead of Larry Drew. Imagine that!


Revisionist history omg my head is spinning.... First off no way we out tank the Sixers that year.

Sloan coaching Giannis his rookie season :nod:
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Post#1542 » by MikeIsGood » Fri May 22, 2020 7:53 pm

I wasn't aware (or didn't recall) he was suffering from Parkinson's. RIP.
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Post#1543 » by Perishable517 » Fri May 22, 2020 10:07 pm

Sid works. I'd put Sid over Ray and have Bobby D. or Marques. Marques over Bobby D. if this went by position.
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Jason Terry over 2x all-star (which was too few) Michael Finley? And if he's included because he got a ring and Finley didn't, then why isn't Kidd (4x all-star with Dallas - split beginning/end of career) on the list ahead of Harper?

They outright state this in their 'toughest cuts', but they cut the wrong two guys.

ETA: They also included Draymond Green over Rick Barry and Chris Mullin on the Warriors. Lord. Maybe I'm missing what they're going for - they clearly aren't looking for the best players.


Idk but did you see that Bucks line up? Would terrorize the league.

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Oscar, Giannis and Kareem is an insane big 3. Ray would snipe. I was born in 84 so I was a little young to see the 80s glory days teams. Do you guys agree with Sid as the other guy? Could an argument be made for Marques or Pressey?

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Post#1544 » by ReasonablySober » Fri May 22, 2020 11:02 pm

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Post#1545 » by chonestown » Sat May 23, 2020 1:12 am

Stand tall, Hoya. Pat Ewing is a strong brother. Get familiar with his time as a prep in Boston. Pat stood strong and tall against dark forces before he hit the District. Probably the most significant college baller of my lifetime. Hard to overstate how large he loomed over the landscape.
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Post#1546 » by Chuck Diesel » Sat May 23, 2020 2:46 am

Rewatched the 1992, 2000 & 2008 Gold Medal games. More than anything it really made me appreciate how **** good the all time greats were in their primes. Hope to organize all my thoughts in a longer post later but for now I'll just say-

Not only can Draymond Green not sit at Charles Barkley's table, he's not permitted within 300 yards of the restaurant. I'd somehow never seen a full game of prime Chuck as an adult. Was like Zion mixed with the best version of Lamar Odom. Absolutely filthy. In Draymond's prime of 2016 he could barely get off the bench for a much worse Olympic squad. Charles was the best player on the Dream Team. Not a debate.
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Post#1547 » by chonestown » Sat May 23, 2020 3:51 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Rewatched the 1992, 2000 & 2008 Gold Medal games. More than anything it really made me appreciate how **** good the all time greats were in their primes. Hope to organize all my thoughts in a longer post later but for now I'll just say-

Not only can Draymond Green not sit at Charles Barkley's table, he's not permitted within 300 yards of the restaurant. I'd somehow never seen a full game of prime Chuck as an adult. Was like Zion mixed with the best version of Lamar Odom. Absolutely filthy. In Draymond's prime of 2016 he could barely get off the bench for a much worse Olympic squad. Charles was the best player on the Dream Team. Not a debate.


Karl Malone is probably the better power forward but Barkley was a better watch. Philly Charles was a mix of power, terror and comedy.
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Post#1548 » by ReasonablySober » Sat May 23, 2020 3:55 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Not only can Draymond Green not sit at Charles Barkley's table, he's not permitted within 300 yards of the restaurant.


But it'd be worth it to watch Chuck throw him out of the restaurant's window.
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Post#1549 » by paulpressey25 » Sat May 23, 2020 5:13 pm

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Not only can Draymond Green not sit at Charles Barkley's table, he's not permitted within 300 yards of the restaurant. I'd somehow never seen a full game of prime Chuck as an adult.


Old man nostalgia. During the 1984 Olympic tryouts, Barkley was supposed to make the team, but Bobby Knight just didn't want him around because of perceived chemistry problems. Young Chuck was a bit rambunctious.

I remember later watching Barkley as a rookie take a rebound and go coast to coast with it. League has never seen such a big fat guy do that. Players with his body type just didn't do things like that back then.
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Post#1550 » by paulpressey25 » Sat May 23, 2020 5:14 pm

chonestown wrote:
Karl Malone is probably the better power forward


I think the world has forgotten Karl Malone. Felt like he'd drop a 40/15 on the Bucks any night he felt like it. He was just a machine wasn't he?
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Post#1551 » by chonestown » Sat May 23, 2020 5:48 pm

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chonestown wrote:
Karl Malone is probably the better power forward


I think the world has forgotten Karl Malone. Felt like he'd drop a 40/15 on the Bucks any night he felt like it. He was just a machine wasn't he?


He was a machine which is precisely why he wasn't loved. Barkley was humanity in all its glorious messiness. Malone garnered appreciation, Barkley summoned passion.
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Post#1552 » by midranger » Sat May 23, 2020 7:28 pm

chonestown wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
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Karl Malone is probably the better power forward


I think the world has forgotten Karl Malone. Felt like he'd drop a 40/15 on the Bucks any night he felt like it. He was just a machine wasn't he?


He was a machine which is precisely why he wasn't loved. Barkley was humanity in all its glorious messiness. Malone garnered appreciation, Barkley summoned passion.

Well, and that other thing....
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Post#1553 » by chonestown » Sat May 23, 2020 11:28 pm

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Post#1554 » by ElPeregrino » Sat May 23, 2020 11:48 pm

chonestown wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
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Karl Malone is probably the better power forward


I think the world has forgotten Karl Malone. Felt like he'd drop a 40/15 on the Bucks any night he felt like it. He was just a machine wasn't he?


He was a machine which is precisely why he wasn't loved. Barkley was humanity in all its glorious messiness. Malone garnered appreciation, Barkley summoned passion.

He's not loved for other reasons we don't need to get into. On the court, Stockton helped him a ton. That pick and roll was unstoppable. I would love to know how good Stockton or Malone would've been without each other. Both would still be Hall of Famers but it's difficult to tell how much they were helped by each other because they both had incredible durability. For example, Stockton averaged more assists per game in the games Malone missed, but that was only 8 games over 18 seasons.
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Post#1555 » by StickeeFingaz » Sun May 24, 2020 6:39 pm

Big news, Jon Leuer announced his retirement.
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Post#1556 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sun May 24, 2020 8:15 pm

StickeeFingaz wrote:Big news, Jon Leuer announced his retirement.

Leuer hit the absolute lotto being a free agent the year the cap spiked. Got his $40 million from the Pistons, retire at 31, be set for life.
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Post#1557 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun May 24, 2020 8:31 pm

I understand why they don’t, but I always root for guys like Leuer to give the Europe a try once they’ve washed out of the NBA. Could tack on half a decade of high level basketball to their careers.
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Post#1558 » by InGiannisITrust » Sun May 24, 2020 8:34 pm

Anyone else annoyed during the last dance the timeline would go from 1991 to 1998 to 1992, etc?
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Post#1559 » by Licensed to Il » Sun May 24, 2020 9:00 pm

Guys like Karl Malone are impossible to defend.. he can murder you from mid range, can get around lumbering oafs, and is just too powerful for any wing. He is overlooked because he didn’t really have great highlights, tons of points off 15 footers and layups and putbacks.

Both (Barkley and Malone) were good enough to win MVPs over prime Jordan (though voter fatigue played a part in that).

Both were better players than are remembered as.
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Post#1560 » by Jez2983 » Mon May 25, 2020 4:13 am

Licensed to Il wrote:Guys like Karl Malone are impossible to defend.. he can murder you from mid range, can get around lumbering oafs, and is just too powerful for any wing. He is overlooked because he didn’t really have great highlights, tons of points off 15 footers and layups and putbacks.

Both (Barkley and Malone) were good enough to win MVPs over prime Jordan (though voter fatigue played a part in that).

Both were better players than are remembered as.


It's pretty incredible to imagine those guys in today's game. He'd be a really interesting small ball C. Shaq with 4 shooters and so on.

Probably a bit sad because Mutumbo who was my favourite player would be Clint Capela...
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