Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:51 pm
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Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 8:55 pm
I think his biggest adjustment this summer has to be working on his midrange game and free throws.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 9:18 pm
No idea what happened to that one-legged fadeaway, free-throw line jumper that he was starting to hit with regularity. It's like the free throw struggles killed his confidence in everything else.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 9:20 pm
I dont know if Giannis will ever have the touch to be a threatening midrange shooter, but I said this earlier in the season: would love to see him try and develop a Duncan-esque bank shot from 10-15 ft.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 9:26 pm
Bucksfan28 wrote:I dont know if Giannis will ever have the touch to be a threatening midrange shooter, but I said this earlier in the season: would love to see him try and develop a Duncan-esque bank shot from 10-15 ft.
Agree. Would help him conserve some energy too if he could just work in the post instead of always relying on blowing by people.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 9:27 pm
My feeling is Bucks have to extend Giannis. Worth the max imo
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 9:33 pm
That's not even a question, is it? The question is whether he wants to.
If he says yes then do it right away. If he wants to wait, or see what happens next playoffs, then we have to trade him asap.
If he says yes then do it right away. If he wants to wait, or see what happens next playoffs, then we have to trade him asap.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:11 pm
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/9/9/21429212/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-free-agency
New piece from Kevin O'Connor about Giannis and about the Bucks.
Cliff notes:
1. Bucks are viewed by league sources as the "clear favorite" for Giannis in 2021.
2. Teams that will reportedly pursue Giannis: Miami, Golden State, Toronto, Dallas, and the LA Clippers (specifically mentions that a league source says Giannis has "an admiration" for Doc Rivers.
3. Mike Conley and Jrue Holiday are considered out of reach for Milwaukee.
4. Says pursuing CP3 is the obvious move and projects an offer of Bledsoe, Hill, DiVincenzo, and DJ Wilson to make salaries work, though he says a third team could be required so that OKC doesn't have to take all of those contracts themselves. He says Philly and possibly the New York Knicks could also pursue CP3.
5. If not CP3, the likely targets are Dennis Schroder, Derrick Rose, and Patty Mills.
New piece from Kevin O'Connor about Giannis and about the Bucks.
Cliff notes:
1. Bucks are viewed by league sources as the "clear favorite" for Giannis in 2021.
2. Teams that will reportedly pursue Giannis: Miami, Golden State, Toronto, Dallas, and the LA Clippers (specifically mentions that a league source says Giannis has "an admiration" for Doc Rivers.
3. Mike Conley and Jrue Holiday are considered out of reach for Milwaukee.
4. Says pursuing CP3 is the obvious move and projects an offer of Bledsoe, Hill, DiVincenzo, and DJ Wilson to make salaries work, though he says a third team could be required so that OKC doesn't have to take all of those contracts themselves. He says Philly and possibly the New York Knicks could also pursue CP3.
5. If not CP3, the likely targets are Dennis Schroder, Derrick Rose, and Patty Mills.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:17 pm
machu46 wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/9/9/21429212/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-free-agency
New piece from Kevin O'Connor about Giannis and about the Bucks.
Cliff notes:
1. Bucks are viewed by league sources as the "clear favorite" for Giannis in 2021.
2. Teams that will reportedly pursue Giannis: Miami, Golden State, Toronto, Dallas, and the LA Clippers (specifically mentions that a league source says Giannis has "an admiration" for Doc Rivers.
3. Mike Conley and Jrue Holiday are considered out of reach for Milwaukee.
4. Says pursuing CP3 is the obvious move and projects an offer of Bledsoe, Hill, DiVincenzo, and DJ Wilson to make salaries work, though he says a third team could be required so that OKC doesn't have to take all of those contracts themselves. He says Philly and possibly the New York Knicks could also pursue CP3.
5. If not CP3, the likely targets are Dennis Schroder, Derrick Rose, and Patty Mills.
Hmm, I really like Patty Mills. Not sure about the contract situation though..
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:18 pm
machu46 wrote:5. If not CP3, the likely targets are Dennis Schroder, Derrick Rose, and Patty Mills.
I'm listening.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:19 pm
Unless something miraculous happens the best case scenario for the Bucks is hoping 36 year old Chris Paul can be the saviour. I know people just mentioned on the locked thread they'd be disappointed in Giannis leaving without acknowledging his own poor play, but it's going to be pretty hard to convince a guy to stay if that's your best option.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:22 pm
machu46 wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/9/9/21429212/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-free-agency
New piece from Kevin O'Connor about Giannis and about the Bucks.
That's a very balanced article. Doesn't really give anyone too much credit or blame. This was a pretty insightful comment about Bud's minutes and rotations:
daskghfoignoin wrote:"After all, no amount of minutes would have given Giannis a threatening jump shot or turned Bledsoe into a reliable playmaker or made Middleton a top go-to scoring option."
But they don't deny that minutes and rotations were a concern.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:27 pm
TD75 wrote:
Hmm, I really like Patty Mills. Not sure about the contract situation though..
One year at just over $13m? Seems fine to me. That's exactly the type of trade where you can try to get rid of Bledsoe's salary without being too obvious of a cost-cutting move, which could alienate Giannis. Not saying the Spurs would want Bledsoe, but there are about a half-dozen possible third teams that could make it work.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:31 pm
Guys, let's try to keep this the Giannis thread. All the trade stuff is in the trade thread. Thanks 
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:35 pm
Baddy Chuck wrote:machu46 wrote:5. If not CP3, the likely targets are Dennis Schroder, Derrick Rose, and Patty Mills.
I'm listening.
CP3
Dennis Schroder
Derrick Rose
PATTY MILLS
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:36 pm
All these guys are being discussed in the trade thread. So let's keep this on GIannis. I'll move any future non Giannis posts when appropriate
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 10:41 pm
Giannis has gotta be better. We also need to put him in situations where he'll be more successful.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 11:28 pm
I think Giannis made up his mind to stay in Milwaukee a long time ago and just wants to make sure the owners don't get cheap. He also seems like the type of guy who would say that everyone on the team deserves a chance to redeem themselves. I think he likes being the only superstar.
It does seem plausible that he would not extend this fall/winter just because the bargaining terms are so unsettled. I expect them to smooth out the cap, which would make it easier to run business as usual instead of completely screwing over players who are due for new deals in the next year or two. But revenue will clearly be down and is likely to affect the super-max numbers at least a little, even with some adjustments, so I could see a 1+1 deal coming.
It does seem plausible that he would not extend this fall/winter just because the bargaining terms are so unsettled. I expect them to smooth out the cap, which would make it easier to run business as usual instead of completely screwing over players who are due for new deals in the next year or two. But revenue will clearly be down and is likely to affect the super-max numbers at least a little, even with some adjustments, so I could see a 1+1 deal coming.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 11:45 pm
Did he ever really get close to serviceable with that though? Maybe I am just remembering when he first started shooting it but it was not a good shot.Ron Swanson wrote:No idea what happened to that one-legged fadeaway, free-throw line jumper that he was starting to hit with regularity. It's like the free throw struggles killed his confidence in everything else.
Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY
Posted: Wed Sep 9, 2020 11:52 pm
jute2003 wrote:Did he ever really get close to serviceable with that though? Maybe I am just remembering when he first started shooting it but it was not a good shot.Ron Swanson wrote:No idea what happened to that one-legged fadeaway, free-throw line jumper that he was starting to hit with regularity. It's like the free throw struggles killed his confidence in everything else.
He was getting really good from there and was growing in confidence. He destroyed both OKC and Charlotte with mid-range post ups back in February and we rarely went back there after.