ImageImage

Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION

Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis

User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 67,321
And1: 20,250
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#1 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:59 pm

Other thread maxed out.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
User avatar
trwi7
RealGM
Posts: 107,151
And1: 21,279
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
Location: Aussie bias
         

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#2 » by trwi7 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm

Pretty excited to let us know it's the offseason.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."


I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
chonestown
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,955
And1: 5,749
Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Location: Pants is a highly charged topic

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#3 » by chonestown » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:11 pm

Out: old guys
In: new guys

imo
“I went to Toronto, I went to Atlanta/I used to drink Pepsi, but now I like Fanta.”

-Hannibal Burress's impression of Canadian music figure Drake
User avatar
tski1972
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,844
And1: 2,532
Joined: May 24, 2011
Location: Wow-saw, WI
Contact:
     

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#4 » by tski1972 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:12 pm

chonestown wrote:Out: old guys
In: new guys

imo


That’s just crazy enough to work.
http://twitter.com/MarkIsOld

Image

"Because of Giannis, the once lousy Bucks are back in the NBA conversation." - 60 Minutes
User avatar
trwi7
RealGM
Posts: 107,151
And1: 21,279
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
Location: Aussie bias
         

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#5 » by trwi7 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:14 pm

chonestown wrote:Out: old guys
In: new guys

imo




This is also how I imagine our front office and owners come up with ideas.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."


I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
User avatar
coolhandluke121
General Manager
Posts: 9,990
And1: 3,683
Joined: Sep 23, 2007

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#6 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:14 pm

I was early by almost a week in predicting when we would hit 100. Disappointed in y'all. Khris was too good this year. Not enough controversy.

Would anyone trade Brook/Ersan for Horford + pick if Philly moves on from Embiid? I probably would. Horford + Embiid was a disaster, but anyone could have seen that coming. Bucks would be able to move him back to center full-time. He looked a little less slow/old in the bubble, so maybe it was a question of nagging injuries during the year. He's still clearly quicker than Brook IMO, much like Marc Gasol was last year, and that makes a big difference. None of them can run the floor, but Horford and Gasol at least move their feet faster than Brook. Non-guaranteed 4th year too.
Wut we've got here is... faaailure... to communakate.
chonestown
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,955
And1: 5,749
Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Location: Pants is a highly charged topic

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#7 » by chonestown » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:18 pm

tski1972 wrote:
chonestown wrote:Out: old guys
In: new guys

imo


That’s just crazy enough to work.


To make an omelette, you have to disrupt some eggs imo

Diversion: I've been spelling "omelette" wrong my entire life. I'm shook.
“I went to Toronto, I went to Atlanta/I used to drink Pepsi, but now I like Fanta.”

-Hannibal Burress's impression of Canadian music figure Drake
Chuck Diesel
RealGM
Posts: 16,844
And1: 10,592
Joined: May 23, 2004

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#8 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:19 pm

chonestown wrote:Out: old guys
In: new guys

imo


The new guys aren’t actually “new” and the “old” guys aren’t as old as you’re making them out to be!
chonestown
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,955
And1: 5,749
Joined: Mar 13, 2010
Location: Pants is a highly charged topic

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#9 » by chonestown » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:29 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:
chonestown wrote:Out: old guys
In: new guys

imo


The new guys aren’t actually “new” and the “old” guys aren’t as old as you’re making them out to be!


Not ready for this conversation until the whippets kick in.
“I went to Toronto, I went to Atlanta/I used to drink Pepsi, but now I like Fanta.”

-Hannibal Burress's impression of Canadian music figure Drake
Chuck Diesel
RealGM
Posts: 16,844
And1: 10,592
Joined: May 23, 2004

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#10 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:52 pm

Smashed together a Schroder deal with a version of RiotPunch’s Bledsoe to Minny idea. https://tradenba.com/trades/SxE1VKyHp

Bucks: Schroder, Josh Richardson, Mike Scott, Jaylen Nowell, #53

OKC: #24, Robin, Ersan, Wilson

Minnesota: Bledsoe

Philly: #17, James Johnson (expiring)

FA Targets: JyMychael Green, Dario Saric, Aron Baynes (in that order)

Rotation:
Schroder/Hill
Richardson/Donte
Middleton/Wes
Giannis/Green/Mike Scott
Lopez/Green
higharc
Sophomore
Posts: 133
And1: 89
Joined: Mar 26, 2018
 

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#11 » by higharc » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:59 pm

After the feedback of the Lasry meeting I find it less likely to go after a big star, unless a disgruntled one becomes available.

If no star trades happen I like these:

E'Twaun Moore could be a nice UFA to target. He has some offensive skills (shooting, floaters etc) and good wingspan.

Trading Bledsoe+ for Patty Mills should be good enough for playmaking.

Mills/Hill/DDV
Moore/Wes/DDV
Midds/minimum wage 3/4 combo ring chaser
Giannis/Dj Wilson/minimum wage 4/5 ring chaser
Brolo/Rolo/minimum wage 4/5 ring chaser

I this doable with all the cap/trade rules?
I feel this team can be good in a playoff situation.
User avatar
machu46
Head Coach
Posts: 7,245
And1: 1,991
Joined: Jun 28, 2012
Location: DC
       

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#12 » by machu46 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:01 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:I was early by almost a week in predicting when we would hit 100. Disappointed in y'all. Khris was too good this year. Not enough controversy.

Would anyone trade Brook/Ersan for Horford + pick if Philly moves on from Embiid? I probably would. Horford + Embiid was a disaster, but anyone could have seen that coming. Bucks would be able to move him back to center full-time. He looked a little less slow/old in the bubble, so maybe it was a question of nagging injuries during the year. He's still clearly quicker than Brook IMO, much like Marc Gasol was last year, and that makes a big difference. None of them can run the floor, but Horford and Gasol at least move their feet faster than Brook. Non-guaranteed 4th year too.


Nobody else responded so I'll bite.

Man, this would make me really uneasy. I think I would probably say no. The contract is just too long for someone that is clearly in decline to me. You say the 4th year is non-guaranteed, but you're still on the hook for most of it anyways and if the Bucks realize their potential with Horford, the entire thing is guaranteed ($14.5 mil guaranteed regardless, $19.5 mil guaranteed if we reach the finals at any point, and fully guaranteed if we win the title at any point).

Might depend on the pick I guess but I'm not really interested in Horford.
trwi7 wrote:**** me deep, Giannis. ****. Me. Deep.
User avatar
Ron Swanson
RealGM
Posts: 15,205
And1: 10,791
Joined: May 15, 2013

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#13 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:11 pm

Only taking on Horford's contract if the Sixers are giving me Josh Richardson and another asset(s). And even then, taking on that much salary pretty much precludes you from diverting resources to upgrade the PG position.
Daver
Rookie
Posts: 1,093
And1: 190
Joined: Feb 23, 2019
       

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#14 » by Daver » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:17 pm

Go all in for Beal or Jrue Holiday, maybe Mike Conley

Seeing JJ Redick name there, he'd be a guy who would help the Bucks immensely



Great post spot on if no paul give me holiday and JJ ....got your upgrade PG and korver 2.0
Bucksfan28
Head Coach
Posts: 6,068
And1: 2,725
Joined: Nov 15, 2009

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#15 » by Bucksfan28 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:26 pm

higharc wrote:
E'Twaun Moore could be a nice UFA to target. He has some offensive skills (shooting, floaters etc) and good wingspan.



Been on the E'Twaun Moore bandwagon for a couple years at least now. I think that's a secondary move using the MLE (or part of it) after upgrading - hopefully - via trade. But if you're able to take care of the guard/wing situation through trade, then divert that money to a versatile PF/C.
MoreTrife wrote:Love seeing two buffoons have a buffoon competition.
Bucksfan28
Head Coach
Posts: 6,068
And1: 2,725
Joined: Nov 15, 2009

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#16 » by Bucksfan28 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:29 pm

Been seeing Jerami Grant's name thrown out a bit, I don't think it's possible unfortunately. He talked about declining his $9.3m player option because he thinks he's outplayed that. Maybe the market humbles him this offseason but sounds like the dude is looking for an 8-figure salary.
MoreTrife wrote:Love seeing two buffoons have a buffoon competition.
jmuelly
Junior
Posts: 407
And1: 67
Joined: May 22, 2015

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#17 » by jmuelly » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:32 pm

Bucksfan28 wrote:
higharc wrote:
E'Twaun Moore could be a nice UFA to target. He has some offensive skills (shooting, floaters etc) and good wingspan.



Been on the E'Twaun Moore bandwagon for a couple years at least now. I think that's a secondary move using the MLE (or part of it) after upgrading - hopefully - via trade. But if you're able to take care of the guard/wing situation through trade, then divert that money to a versatile PF/C.


I wanted moore the year they signed Delly.
User avatar
coolhandluke121
General Manager
Posts: 9,990
And1: 3,683
Joined: Sep 23, 2007

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#18 » by coolhandluke121 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:36 pm

Bucksfan28 wrote:
higharc wrote:
E'Twaun Moore could be a nice UFA to target. He has some offensive skills (shooting, floaters etc) and good wingspan.



Been on the E'Twaun Moore bandwagon for a couple years at least now. I think that's a secondary move using the MLE (or part of it) after upgrading - hopefully - via trade. But if you're able to take care of the guard/wing situation through trade, then divert that money to a versatile PF/C.


So pissed when he signed for less than half of what they gave Snell. Un-frickin'-believable. That was Horst, right? He really bombed very early on with DJ and Snell but has hardly had a move that didn't exceed the average value of the assets/money conceded since.
Wut we've got here is... faaailure... to communakate.
ShootingtheJ
Rookie
Posts: 1,012
And1: 380
Joined: Jun 20, 2010

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#19 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:37 pm

I'm proud of the Bucks for their posturing on Chris Paul. Shoot down the idea of a deal to keep his market low. Swoop in and get him cheap.

I'll predict now that we get more draft pick compensation for Bledsoe than OKC gets for Paul.
Chuck Diesel
RealGM
Posts: 16,844
And1: 10,592
Joined: May 23, 2004

Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION 

Post#20 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:37 pm

I haven’t really considered the possibility that Wes Matthews could bolt for an offer elsewhere. That would really suck, especially if he joined a contending rival.

Return to Milwaukee Bucks