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Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:18 am
by Ruzious
skones wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
skones wrote:There are more role player specialty skill guys than ever before in the 2nd round. Do I think this guy is it? No, does he have a chance? Yes. That's the rise of the triple, he has good balance off the catch, squares up before the ball hits his hands and let's it fly. I'm not mad at it.

Any particular reason?


As far as why there are more specialty skill guys than ever? Guys who didn't have a place in this league 10-15 years ago, can shoot their way onto a roster. Korver for example, was an afterthought for years, and it wasn't until Bud used his gravity and made him into a hub of his offense that he really mattered. Korver comes into the league now and he doesn't wait until 31, 32, 33 years old to make a substantial impact. NOW, you've got an UDFA in Duncan Robinson who found his way into Michigan from D3 in Miami. He's not the only gem.

No, sorry I wasn't clear. I'm asking why you said No to the question - Do you think this guy is it?

Btw, Korver had far better years before he came to the Bucks - when he was not an afterthought, but he really did have his best years after age 30 because he simply improved as a player. He declined after joining the Bucks, because he got older and slower.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:32 am
by Badgerlander
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Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:38 am
by Badgerlander
Someday we will draft guys that can dribble.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:17 pm
by Antinomy
Theoretically we needed some more length & athleticism on the wing so I like the pick. We’ll see if it amounts to anything this year.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:39 pm
by ShootingtheJ
The thing that bothers me with Nwora is his play lacks a sense of urgency. The reason I think Merrill could be a steal and Nwora won't make the changes necessary to make it is simply Merrill wants it more.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:12 pm
by Bucksfan28
Preferred a couple other guys still on the board, Mays probably tops that list. Rooting for Nwora to find his niche though. Bucks need depth and his tweet gives me good vibes.*

*Did anyone else read his tweet in Eric Jensen's (Bucks PA announcer) voice? "ALRIGHT MILWAUKEEEEEEE"

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:14 pm
by coolhandluke121
Sorry, how did they end up with #45? I thought they were getting #42 in the Jrue deal.

Is this guy more like Chris Copeland or Steve Novak?

Lasry is a disaster. If it is his fault that they're leaking so much, I think Edens should sue to get the governorship back by citing damage to the franchise. Lest you think I'm overreacting, please remember Lasry's relationship with Kidd and all the crap that went down in that era. If they can get him on losing draft picks as a penalty for tampering, I think they should be able to put the brakes on his reign. I wonder if there's any contingency plan in their agreement for stuff like that.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:33 pm
by drone3
ShootingtheJ wrote:The thing that bothers me with Nwora is his play lacks a sense of urgency. The reason I think Merrill could be a steal and Nwora won't make the changes necessary to make it is simply Merrill wants it more.
He does look a bit docile (DJ Wilsonish) Gianiss will have to light up Nworas Nigerian flame.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:57 pm
by MikeIsGood
coolhandluke121 wrote:Sorry, how did they end up with #45? I thought they were getting #42 in the Jrue deal.


Oh god. Don't ask.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:04 pm
by LuessiT
coolhandluke121 wrote:Sorry, how did they end up with #45? I thought they were getting #42 in the Jrue deal.

Is this guy more like Chris Copeland or Steve Novak?

Lasry is a disaster. If it is his fault that they're leaking so much, I think Edens should sue to get the governorship back by citing damage to the franchise. Lest you think I'm overreacting, please remember Lasry's relationship with Kidd and all the crap that went down in that era. If they can get him on losing draft picks as a penalty for tampering, I think they should be able to put the brakes on his reign. I wonder if there's any contingency plan in their agreement for stuff like that.


we traded two future 2nds for it.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:16 pm
by soxperry
Is it just me or does he almost get stuffed by the rim on many of his dunks? Haven't checked the numbers but maybe not a jumper.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:17 pm
by skones
Ruzious wrote:
skones wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Any particular reason?


As far as why there are more specialty skill guys than ever? Guys who didn't have a place in this league 10-15 years ago, can shoot their way onto a roster. Korver for example, was an afterthought for years, and it wasn't until Bud used his gravity and made him into a hub of his offense that he really mattered. Korver comes into the league now and he doesn't wait until 31, 32, 33 years old to make a substantial impact. NOW, you've got an UDFA in Duncan Robinson who found his way into Michigan from D3 in Miami. He's not the only gem.

No, sorry I wasn't clear. I'm asking why you said No to the question - Do you think this guy is it?

Btw, Korver had far better years before he came to the Bucks - when he was not an afterthought, but he really did have his best years after age 30 because he simply improved as a player. He declined after joining the Bucks, because he got older and slower.


Yes, I know, like when he was 31, 32, 33 and his gravity made those Hawks teams very successful. I personally don't think he suddenly improved in those years to the degree where he went from journeyman to crucial rotation piece. His game just didn't fit the league when he came into it as much as it did later on.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:19 pm
by coolhandluke121
LuessiT wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:Sorry, how did they end up with #45? I thought they were getting #42 in the Jrue deal.

Is this guy more like Chris Copeland or Steve Novak?

Lasry is a disaster. If it is his fault that they're leaking so much, I think Edens should sue to get the governorship back by citing damage to the franchise. Lest you think I'm overreacting, please remember Lasry's relationship with Kidd and all the crap that went down in that era. If they can get him on losing draft picks as a penalty for tampering, I think they should be able to put the brakes on his reign. I wonder if there's any contingency plan in their agreement for stuff like that.


we traded two future 2nds for it.


Thanks. I was swamped with end-of-term grading last night and finding out that NYC schools would be closed as of this morning. And what happened to #42? Why is it officially traded to the Hornets? I thought the Bucks were getting that in the Jrue deal. Not that it makes the Jrue deal that much less disturbing to me...

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:38 pm
by HaroldinGMinor
coolhandluke121 wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:Sorry, how did they end up with #45? I thought they were getting #42 in the Jrue deal.

Is this guy more like Chris Copeland or Steve Novak?

Lasry is a disaster. If it is his fault that they're leaking so much, I think Edens should sue to get the governorship back by citing damage to the franchise. Lest you think I'm overreacting, please remember Lasry's relationship with Kidd and all the crap that went down in that era. If they can get him on losing draft picks as a penalty for tampering, I think they should be able to put the brakes on his reign. I wonder if there's any contingency plan in their agreement for stuff like that.


we traded two future 2nds for it.


Thanks. I was swamped with end-of-term grading last night and finding out that NYC schools would be closed as of this morning. And what happened to #42? Why is it officially traded to the Hornets? I thought the Bucks were getting that in the Jrue deal. Not that it makes the Jrue deal that much less disturbing to me...


Nehm said they decided against buying the 42 and instead traded with Orlando for the 45.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:39 pm
by RogerMurdock
a) I think most are worrying a bit too much about a mid-second round pick. Most of these guys don't do anything in the NBA.

On the other hand...

b) Nwora is very good. He'll get minutes for the Bucks, especially considering they have no players at the moment. Kid can obviously shoot the lights out. I know the jump from college to the NBA is massive, but he's a better overall offensive player than lots of you are making him out to be. He's also quite tough, fights for boards (from the few games I watched), something that never hurts in the NBA.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:47 pm
by Badgerlander
drone3 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:The thing that bothers me with Nwora is his play lacks a sense of urgency. The reason I think Merrill could be a steal and Nwora won't make the changes necessary to make it is simply Merrill wants it more.
He does look a bit docile (DJ Wilsonish) Gianiss will have to light up Nworas Nigerian flame.

Yeah that was my immediate reaction in reading his scouting report that we drafted a shorter, less athletic DJ, shrugs. Hope he can shoot better

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:49 pm
by HaroldinGMinor
My comp for this pick is Duncan Robinson. Thank you.

I'd be curious how many people would compare him to DJ Wilson if he didn't have light skin and a sideshow bob haircut.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:52 pm
by Ron Swanson
Was hoping for a lot of "I like the other pick more because scrappy white dude from Utah" takes and I have not been disappointed.

8-)

Nwora actually is an NBA caliber athlete that can shoot, so I think there's definitely an easier path to an actual role on an NBA bench for him. In theory he's the perfect kind of stretch-4 prospect in this day and age if you're going small. Very happy to get a guy likethat in the mid-40s.

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:56 pm
by M-C-G
Ok, I have not viewed this yet, but here goes


Watch on YouTube

Re: #45 - Jordan Nwora (Forward, Louisville)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:03 pm
by Bus or bust
I like that we picked older guys (relative to the draft) with these picks. Makes me more hopeful they can crack the rotation and hone in and master their roles