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Post#1221 » by LuessiT » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:19 pm

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emunney wrote:Watch us stretch Wilson.

does that add cap space?


I'm not sure my math is correct, but I don't think it does. We also can't creep under the tax with that.
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Post#1222 » by BuckFan25226 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:20 pm

Fotis St wrote:Guys hold on , hold on ... Giannis is now really hurt and he is struggling mentally to overcome the fact that the whole NBA World is laughing at our FO , on which he hoped to make a Championship team ... Giannis will overcome this struggle and battle it out , no doubt. Imagine if you were like his brother and love him so much and he says that he only cares about winning a ring ... would you advise him to stay in Mil ? I would advise him to NOT sign the Supermax and decide in summer. So here we are ... we are going to start the Championship like this and Holiday will probably have his thoughts on whether he wants to sign an extension or not.
I really don't get the optimism ... I will see the difference between Bled and Jrue in the playoffs. Giannis body is one year older, and struggled the previous year to stay healthy, Khris is a walking 40 year old good old scool basketball player, Jrue has to improve and excel at the playoffs ... I don't see the youth nor the "dogs" we wanted and the enforcers we need at the playoffs.
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Post#1223 » by LuessiT » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:20 pm

emunney wrote:The point isn't will we be good. We already were good! The point is we made a huge investment in future capital, so shouldn't we have a huge improvement in present roster quality to show for it? We don't! And Jrue has a PO next year!


I'm pretty sure Jrue signs the maximum extension during the season.
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Post#1224 » by emunney » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:20 pm

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emunney wrote:Watch us stretch Wilson.

does that add cap space?


It would allow us to fill the roster.
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Post#1225 » by leroyjw10 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:20 pm

Curious what will happen with Frank Mason. Do they just rescind the QO? I really like Frank and was hoping we'd keep him, but not looking likely. If nothing else, it'd be nice to a 3rd-string PG who can actually run the offense in a blowout. Still wouldn't have that.
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Post#1226 » by Chad34 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:21 pm

emunney wrote:The point isn't will we be good. We already were good! The point is we made a huge investment in future capital, so shouldn't we have a huge improvement in present roster quality to show for it? We don't! And Jrue has a PO next year!

is it possible they have an extension worked out already
Still holding out hope we pull off a double s&t for Bogdan :lol:
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Post#1227 » by LuessiT » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:21 pm

emunney wrote:
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emunney wrote:Watch us stretch Wilson.

does that add cap space?


It would allow us to fill the roster.


I'm like 90% we can fill the roster either way.
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Post#1228 » by Wisky4life » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:22 pm

Really annoyed we can't squeeze Mason in on the minimum. How about take a $1 million off of Conny's contract.
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Post#1229 » by mke_design » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:22 pm

emunney wrote:The point isn't will we be good. We already were good! The point is we made a huge investment in future capital, so shouldn't we have a huge improvement in present roster quality to show for it? We don't! And Jrue has a PO next year!


If Jrue extends and Giannis signs - the point is moot. So let's see what happens.
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Post#1230 » by wisportsfan4 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:22 pm

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Yes I do. This is realGM. not realSPORTSFAN.


You act like Horst is not a good GM. The same guy that won executive of the year. Like he's not in the know about the value of players.

Do I agree we probably overpaid for Jrue? Yes, I do. But if we didn't, someone else likely would of, and then this board would be up in arms about "oh the Bucks didn't go for it when they had the chance."

If getting Jrue meant Giannis resigning, nothing else matters. Nothing. Asset maximization be damned.


I do think he's making plenty of mistakes, especially on the small scales. Casual fans might not think it matters but it makes me livid that we partly guaranteed Merrill's second year. Or that we signed him before knowing if we have part of the MLE left to hand a longer than 2 year contract. Guess what we have.

And if Horst was as good a GM as you said he is he'd be capable of doing both.


No moves are official yet. Not even the Jrue trade. So while you think you may know all the ins and outs of every option, etc. because John Hollinger speculated some garbage, no one does.

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Post#1231 » by mke_design » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:23 pm

leroyjw10 wrote:Curious what will happen with Frank Mason. Do they just rescind the QO? I really like Frank and was hoping we'd keep him, but not looking likely. If nothing else, it'd be nice to a 3rd-string PG who can actually run the offense in a blowout. Still wouldn't have that.


I think we can once Jrue deal is official.
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Post#1232 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:24 pm

emunney wrote:The point isn't will we be good. We already were good! The point is we made a huge investment in future capital, so shouldn't we have a huge improvement in present roster quality to show for it? We don't! And Jrue has a PO next year!

Do you honestly believe that we gave so much unless Jrue agreed to extend with us especially after Giannis extends?
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Post#1233 » by Chad34 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:24 pm

have any transactions become official yet? Is there still ability to expand or alter them?
Still holding out hope we pull off a double s&t for Bogdan :lol:
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Post#1234 » by LuessiT » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:25 pm

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You act like Horst is not a good GM. The same guy that won executive of the year. Like he's not in the know about the value of players.

Do I agree we probably overpaid for Jrue? Yes, I do. But if we didn't, someone else likely would of, and then this board would be up in arms about "oh the Bucks didn't go for it when they had the chance."

If getting Jrue meant Giannis resigning, nothing else matters. Nothing. Asset maximization be damned.


I do think he's making plenty of mistakes, especially on the small scales. Casual fans might not think it matters but it makes me livid that we partly guaranteed Merrill's second year. Or that we signed him before knowing if we have part of the MLE left to hand a longer than 2 year contract. Guess what we have.

And if Horst was as good a GM as you said he is he'd be capable of doing both.


No moves are official yet. Not even the Jrue trade. So while you think you may know all the ins and outs of every option, etc. because John Hollinger speculated some garbage, no one does.

Jon Horst won Exec of the Year in 2019. Google it.


I'm not basing my opinions on John Hollinger.

You're really barking at the wrong tree and it's annoying.
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Post#1235 » by Bucknado » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:25 pm

We were far and away the best team in the league pre bubble. We got better. Once the vaccine hits, watch out. It’ll be like reverse bubble. We’ll be packing the house for the playoffs. LFG!!!
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Post#1236 » by Fotis St » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:26 pm

What the worst Grade there is ... F ? I would give them even Worse Out of Scale ... cause they didn't add the appropriate shooting needed, the appropriate enforcers needed, we have Jrue who doesn't scream SUPERSTAR I got you in the playoffs, I will carry you ... , and on top of that ... We are literally the laugh of 29 Teams , I bet they were all laughing at all the mistakes Horst and owners were doing ... it breaks Team's morale and really hurts the face of the Franchise with multiple consiquences on attracting players and even making deals with other GMs.
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Post#1237 » by Badgerlander » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:27 pm

Frank Mason fans need to watch some Sam Merrill videos
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Post#1238 » by Chad34 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:32 pm

Badgerlander wrote:Frank Mason fans need to watch some Sam Merrill videos

not saying he's doncic, but couldn't you say from the eye test, doncic has most of merrill's perceived weakness's? i have a feeling about this guy's intangibles
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Post#1239 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:35 pm

LuessiT wrote:
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I do think he's making plenty of mistakes, especially on the small scales. Casual fans might not think it matters but it makes me livid that we partly guaranteed Merrill's second year. Or that we signed him before knowing if we have part of the MLE left to hand a longer than 2 year contract. Guess what we have.

And if Horst was as good a GM as you said he is he'd be capable of doing both.


No moves are official yet. Not even the Jrue trade. So while you think you may know all the ins and outs of every option, etc. because John Hollinger speculated some garbage, no one does.

Jon Horst won Exec of the Year in 2019. Google it.


I'm not basing my opinions on John Hollinger.

You're really barking at the wrong tree and it's annoying.


youre playing strictly fantasy league. gms need to make tough business decisions but these players are real people with egos and sensitivies above normal human scale. lockerroom perceptions matter and some of the best teams ever were destroyed when gms didnt consider that aspect. its a fine line but there is a difference with how we approach it and how they have to.
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Post#1240 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:39 pm

emunney wrote:The point isn't will we be good. We already were good! The point is we made a huge investment in future capital, so shouldn't we have a huge improvement in present roster quality to show for it? We don't! And Jrue has a PO next year!


the capital is all in 3 guys. then theres brook. then theres the peanut gallery every team needs.

i think were much better and i dont have a problem with holiday, middleton, and giannis making the salary cap between them. it is what it is. if any one of those 3 were to leave our window slams shut. as long as we have them were the top of the EC

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