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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#141 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:20 am

humanrefutation wrote:Feels like a bit of a panic move to me, tbh. He doesn't move the needle for me.

What 7 million a year player this offseason does? I get that it's uninspired but panic move seems like an overaction.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#142 » by will » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:23 am

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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#143 » by fansinceforever » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:25 am

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If Giannis stays, it kills the future ability to make trades.

And if Giannis leaves it kills the future period. Would rather have a two time MVP and limited assets for a few years than no MVP at all.


If he leaves and you remain a fan, I assure you that you will care. If he stays it'll still hurt.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#144 » by humanrefutation » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:26 am

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humanrefutation wrote:Feels like a bit of a panic move to me, tbh. He doesn't move the needle for me.

What 7 million a year player this offseason does? I get that it's uninspired but panic move seems like an overaction.


It's the three years that bugs me more than the $7M. I think they didn't have a great Plan B after the Bogdan deal fell through.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#145 » by Prez » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:27 am

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humanrefutation wrote:Feels like a bit of a panic move to me, tbh. He doesn't move the needle for me.

What 7 million a year player this offseason does? I get that it's uninspired but panic move seems like an overaction.


It's the three years that bugs me more than the $7M. I think they didn't have a great Plan B after the Bogdan deal fell through.

Has it been confirmed all 3 years are guaranteed? I was hoping there would be a NG similar to the Hill deal.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#146 » by LISTEN2JAZZ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:30 am

LuessiT wrote:I feel like if the brain trust of the Bucks realgm would run the team we'd do better.

I think the reality of players saying "no" to team-friendly contracts would hit harder than you think. I think it'd play out like this:

realgm: "DJ, we'll offer you 2 years at $5 million/year, second year is a team option.
dj: (signs with another team)
realgm: "ummm Jeremy Lin, we'll offer you one year at the minimum? "
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#147 » by Plossum » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:02 am

Downgrade from Hill but he’s still solid. It’s a bit meh, neither great nor terrible.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#148 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:17 am

Stat people might like

Pick and roll percentile:
19/20: 73rd, .94 PPP
18/19: 81st, .96 PPP
17/18: 90th, 1 PPP
16/17: 80th, .94 PPP
15/16: ~85th, .9ish PPP

That's got a lot of potential playing off Giannis.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#149 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:22 am

Two previous years in Orlando DJ was a 99th percentile spot up shooter at around 50%.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#150 » by tedbrogen » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:38 am

Plossum wrote:Downgrade from Hill but he’s still solid. It’s a bit meh, neither great nor terrible.


Upgrade from Bubble Hill.

Downgrade from regular season 48% 3P shooter Hill.

I think Hill another year older and due for a shooting regression is far more likely to be the former rather than the latter.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#151 » by M-C-G » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:03 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Stat people might like

Pick and roll percentile:
19/20: 73rd, .94 PPP
18/19: 81st, .96 PPP
17/18: 90th, 1 PPP
16/17: 80th, .94 PPP
15/16: ~85th, .9ish PPP

That's got a lot of potential playing off Giannis.

Had no idea about the stats but felt like I have been watching DJ for two or three years thinking about what he would look like playing with Giannis and Lopez.


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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#152 » by Brewhoopfan » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:54 am

Massive overpay but the guard market is trash.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#153 » by JayMKE » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:22 am

Probably mentioned but Teague went a lot cheaper...
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#154 » by Prez » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:27 am

JayMKE wrote:Probably mentioned but Teague went a lot cheaper...

Teague seriously sucks now, he should’ve went a lot cheaper
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#155 » by emunney » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:41 am

FWIW I think they were right to prioritize this kind of investment at PG. Just annoying that the Nuggets got Facu at the BAE.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#156 » by DrWood » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:40 am

I don't like Avery Bradley, and he got paid more than Augustin.
My solace is that it's not the worst contract of the day (Hayward).
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#157 » by DrWood » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:41 am

LuessiT wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Way too much.

What a week.


I feel like if the brain trust of the Bucks realgm would run the team we'd do better.

we'd never come to an agreement.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#158 » by yannisk » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:05 pm

DrWood wrote:I don't like Avery Bradley, and he got paid more than Augustin.
My solace is that it's not the worst contract of the day (Hayward).


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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#159 » by Pachinko_ » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:19 pm

emunney wrote:Just annoying that the Nuggets got Facu at the BAE.

That is annoying. He's pretty much exactly the same player as Augustin, except younger.
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Re: Bucks sign Augustin - 3 years $21 million 

Post#160 » by Badgerlander » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:53 pm

tedbrogen wrote:I think Hill another year older and due for a shooting regression is far more likely to be the former rather than the latter.


Just want to point out that DJ is a year younger than Hill
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